Det. Supt. 'Mick' Ainsley - oversight of corrupt practices

[David1819]

In probably the most high profile miscarriage of justice case in the UK a professional barrister does not go before the COA to argue a case based upon the work of so-called “clowns “. You are advised to temper your scorn as it will in due course become an embarrassment to you.

I have not seen Newby or Stone mention these "28 wounds" anywhere. Neither has the CT mentioned them in their detailed list of grounds to the CCRC. What does that tell you?

By all means obtain the alleged expert reports and show them to NGB and embarass me. I look forward to it.

[David1819]

This man has been totally discredited as a human being. (Now deceased)  if not as a forensic scientist. The report is preliminary and was produced for a publishing company. He strikes me as a disreputable man and a paedophile/abuser.

He could easily be blackmailed by threatening to expose his misdeeds. He could produce a report that specified what the findings required should be.

For these reasons I suggest that he is an unreliable witness and his report may not be worth the paper it is printed on.

Jeremy and Mike Tesko were both involved in hiring MacDonnel. The publishing company simply paid his fees.

See the letter here - http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6302.msg277955.html#msg277955

Yes the guys a pedo but that is an ad hominem.

[Roch]

I have not seen Newby or Stone mention these "28 wounds" anywhere. Neither has the CT mentioned them in their detailed list of grounds to the CCRC. What does that tell you?

By all means obtain the alleged expert reports and show them to NGB and embarass me. I look forward to it.

I think the CT have played safe and been economical with the list of grounds for public consumption.  It may be in one of the appendices or it may be within the ground about Sheila at the scene.

[Bubo bubo]

Jeremy and Mike Tesko were both involved in hiring MacDonnel. The publishing company simply paid his fees.

See the letter here - http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6302.msg277955.html#msg277955

Yes the guys a pedo but that is an ad hominem.

They made a mistake. I have also pointed out that he was a fraud or did you not visit the website. The problem with frauds is you do not know what the real truth is.

With a bad apple you do not know it has a maggot until you bite into it. But you can't ever know when the insect that created it laid the egg that kicked off the process.

Character is important.

From the website;In any case, Dr. MacDonell's lengthy career as a forensic expert should be at an end with these convictions, given the trustworthy character requirement that courtroom testimony necessitates.

I believe he may have been "knobbled" but he could just be wrong.

[Roch]

Neither has the CT mentioned them in their detailed list of grounds to the CCRC. What does that tell you?

Mentioned in the podcasts David.

[David1819]

They made a mistake. I have also pointed out that he was a fraud or did you not visit the website. The problem with frauds is you do not know what the real truth is.

With a bad apple you do not know it has a maggot until you bite into it. But you can't ever know when the insect that created it laid the egg that kicked off the process.

Character is important.

From the website;In any case, Dr. MacDonell's lengthy career as a forensic expert should be at an end with these convictions, given the trustworthy character requirement that courtroom testimony necessitates.

I believe he may have been "knobbled" but he could just be wrong.

As far as I am concerned, MacDonnels report on June's death is entirely consistent with the physical evidence. Saying he can't do forensics properly because he is a pedo is like saying Michael Jackson can't dance for the same reason.

Moreover, June's  body is in a much more developed state of livor mortis than Sheila's. Thus they both died at very different times. The idea of the raid team shooting June is practically impossible.

[Roch]

Regarding H L MacD. and the bullet 'perforations' in the bedding. The CT are now stating that 30 shots were fired at the scene. Could it be that the second investigation came up with the '25 shots.. not one missed..." as part of the narrative to frame JB as the killer? If any of the extra shots were fired at June, they may have missed her but hit the bedding?

[David1819]

Mentioned in the podcasts David.

Why is it not mentioned here?

https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/?fbclid=IwAR3VCzlWFHkKZVukFPgSTB41f6RQ3bYYlfr0EJ8y13B2xnaDcp19YTGgaNM

[David1819]

Regarding H L MacD. and the bullet 'perforations' in the bedding. The CT are now stating that 30 shots were fired at the scene. Could it be that the second investigation came up with the '25 shots.. not one missed..." as part of the narrative to frame JB as the killer? If any of the extra shots were fired at June, they may have missed her but hit the bedding?

Ann Eaton was told there were 25 shots fired on the 8th of August. Its in her handwritten notes. Or has Ainsley edited those also? Maybe he done it while editing Vanezis autopsy notes? 

[Roch]

Ann Eaton was told there were 25 shots fired on the 8th of August. Its in her hand written notes. Or has Ainsley edited those also? Maybe he done it while editing Vanezis autopsy notes? 

If her notes were contemporaneous and not re-written or authored later, she was probably referring to the shots received by the victims.

[Roch]

Why is it not mentioned here?

https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/?fbclid=IwAR3VCzlWFHkKZVukFPgSTB41f6RQ3bYYlfr0EJ8y13B2xnaDcp19YTGgaNM

Could be linked to grounds 5 and 7. Possibly also 6?

[David1819]

If her notes were contemporaneous and not re-written or authored later, she was probably referring to the shots received by the victims.

According to AE when she heard the number of shots fired, that's when she decided Sheila didn't do it. So it was early in the investigation.

[David1819]

Could be linked to grounds 5 and 7. Possibly also 6?

There is no mention of 28 wounds anywhere. Hopefully Bill is in the process of obtaining these reports (that he is yet to even see himself). Then he will give them to NGB and all will be clarified.

[Roch]

According to AE when she heard the number of shots fired, that's when she decided Sheila didn't do it. So it was early in the investigation.

Well was there 25 bullet wounds known early in the investigation? Arguably yes, as the post mortems were carried out on 7th.

[Bubo bubo]

As far as I am concerned, MacDonnels report on June's death is entirely consistent with the physical evidence. Saying he can't do forensics properly because he is a pedo is like saying Michael Jackson can't dance for the same reason.

Moreover, June's  body is in a much more developed state of livor mortis than Sheila's. Thus they both died at very different times. The idea of the raid team shooting June is practically impossible.

I have never claimed that the police shot June. I merely raised it as a possibility. Nor did I say that he could not do forensics because he was a Pedo. He could have been a ground breaker in his early career. Sometimes even the most eminent practitioners in all fields can get carried away with their own self importance, make instant reflections and are not diligent in performing their duties.

Who recommended him?
Who contacted him?
What was he asked to do exactly?
What was his fee and how much time did he spend?
His input is just one paragraph in a preliminary report.

What is your evidence for more advanced liver mortis? If they moved Sheila the process would be disrupted since it forms when the body is still.

Please stop putting words in my mouth and address the many questions I have posed. Yet you have ignored them because you are more interested in promoting your own case analysis and winning the argument than seeking the truth.

I shall report you to the moderator if you continue to attribute to me things I have not said.
I do not take kindly to your modus operandi and I will not tolerate it.
Message understood?