Blood on Sheila´s Arm

[bob]

Now your having  a silly moment again.
I have joined once and never left and am not deluded unlike yourself and your claims about me seem to arise from your delusions.

Well - you're half right.

[shonapugs]

smiffy, you're an angry person. There is every chance that the marks on Ralph's arm were inflicted by a third person, and that's why they match the marks on Sheila's arm.

[smiffy]

from an online forensic science site article..

4. fingertip/pad bruises
Where an assailant has forcefully gripped a person, for example around the neck (e.g. during attempted manual strangulation) or arms etc, one may see small discoid or ovoid bruises in a cluster. These may be discrete, but are often blurred or may 'merge' with one another, due to the dynamic nature of assaults and struggles with an assailant. Sites to look for these bruises include,


The neck
The arms
The face and trunk in children
The inner thighs in suspected sexual assault

[shonapugs]

We can all google, smiffy. Please bring it on, I'm just in the mood.

[hartley]

Smiffy why don't you wind your neck in and simply respect that other people have different views and opinions to yourself, it doesn't mean they're right and you're wrong or vice versa, but stop being so bloody obnoxious and rude to everybody who holds a different view.

Come on moderators, there's enough of you, I thought you were put in place to stop this sort of nonesense?

[hartley]

aww
nothing wrong with my posts...

seems you are unable to stand up to  challenges eh Hartley.

back up the views with something sensible...not ridiculous nonsense Hartley.

respect is earned ...not given  to any poster who wants to spout rubbish with claims etc that dont stand up.

You said it pal.

[paulg]

I have to agree with Hartley about the wounds on Nevill´s arm. I don´t think that fingernails could have made them. It looks like marks from the barrel of a gun.

DONT BE DAFT... never in a million years were those marks caused by a rifle barrel .
SUCH STUPID COMMENTS ....shows how desperate the anti JB are in my view.

what sharp bits are there on the end of a rifle barrel that could make those marks?....answer none...!
4 marks in a pattern that are bruises and finger nail gouges...perfect match.

oh wasnt the argument that the rifle had a silencer fitted....and the larger diameter of the silencer makes the claim look even more ridiculous....oh and surely   any gouge of ralphs skin by a silencer...(joke) would introduce his blood and skin into the silencer...thus rendering the so called silencer blood being a match to sheilas blood type as useless...what with June's dna being found in it..
so the Sheila's blood in the silencer claim is gone...and all that goes with it ..

fact is...the bruises and associated gouge injuries on Ralphs arm were inflicted by Sheila.

Here's the challenge....Go reproduce those injuries ...impossible with a rifle of the types present at WHF...........  But oh so easy to reproduce by someone with fingernails of the appropriate size.


ABS -1

Smiffy, please read the below copy and paste, and try to post your replies with this in mind.

Don't attack others. Personal attacks on others will not be tolerated. Challenge others points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully.

[shonapugs]

When did you get so grown up, Paul? You've certainly scared me off. It's goodnight from me...............

[hartley]

Whilst we are at it can we remove or reword this rule?

 Any complaints received about posts/topics thathave information that can not be proven will be removed as soon as we become aware of them

Otherwise 75% of this forum should be deleted.

[vidvic]

Whilst we are at it can we remove or reword this rule?

 Any complaints received about posts/topics thathave information that can not be proven will be removed as soon as we become aware of them

Otherwise 75% of this forum should be deleted.

rofl......think you might have a point!!

[paulg]

When did you get so grown up, Paul? You've certainly scared me off. It's goodnight from me...............

Sorry Shona, i'm still the same happy go lucky fool. Sometimes someone has to jump in and restore some order, this time it was me.

[paulg]

Whilst we are at it can we remove or reword this rule?

 Any complaints received about posts/topics thathave information that can not be proven will be removed as soon as we become aware of them

Otherwise 75% of this forum should be deleted.

Yeah yeah, very droll, thats why IMO should be added as a compulsory disclaimer at the bottom of each post

[hartley]

Whilst we are at it can we remove or reword this rule?

 Any complaints received about posts/topics thathave information that can not be proven will be removed as soon as we become aware of them

Otherwise 75% of this forum should be deleted.

Yeah yeah, very droll, thats why IMO should be added as a compulsory disclaimer at the bottom of each post

Just saying what I see. 

[OnceSaid]

I wont bother with considering JB or a hitman as the killer...for the fingernail gouges on Ralph's arm and other things satisfy me fully the Sheila killed the other 4.

It's interesting to note that an experienced pathologist did not attribute the wounds to Ralph's arm as being caused by fingernails.

He clearly lied on this issue....most likely under pressure to do so by EP. To make it easier ..he was probably initially spun a less serious story to get his compliance and once duped into that...it was hard to back off.

They can have as much experience and as many qualifications as they like...it does not stop them making mistakes or telling lies.

Hmmm I think you are deluded in this case, particularly given the fact that the post mortem was carried out prior to JB being in the frame.

Whilst dated 30 day of September 1985 Professor Peter Vanezis carried out the post mortems on the 7 day of August 1985 commencing at 3.30pm and completing such “on the afternoon of the 8th August 1985.”  The witness statement was not made until over a month after the post mortems.   Those present at the post mortems were: D.I. Miller, D.I. Cook, D.S. Davidson and PC Wright who acted as an officer for the Coroner.

[grahameb]

I wont bother with considering JB or a hitman as the killer...for the fingernail gouges on Ralph's arm and other things satisfy me fully the Sheila killed the other 4.

It's interesting to note that an experienced pathologist did not attribute the wounds to Ralph's arm as being caused by fingernails.

He clearly lied on this issue....most likely under pressure to do so by EP. To make it easier ..he was probably initially spun a less serious story to get his compliance and once duped into that...it was hard to back off.

They can have as much experience and as many qualifications as they like...it does not stop them making mistakes or telling lies.

Hmmm I think you are deluded in this case, particularly given the fact that the post mortem was carried out prior to JB being in the frame.

Whilst dated 30 day of September 1985 Professor Peter Vanezis carried out the post mortems on the 7 day of August 1985 commencing at 3.30pm and completing such “on the afternoon of the 8th August 1985.”  The witness statement was not made until over a month after the post mortems.   Those present at the post mortems were: D.I. Miller, D.I. Cook, D.S. Davidson and PC Wright who acted as an officer for the Coroner.

That's ominous for a start.