Author Topic: PEN PAL FROM HELL Jeremy Bamber sent me hundreds of twisted letters from prison  (Read 30691 times)

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Offline sami

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According to Sami, he believes that the bicycle and wet-suit played a part just because BW said so  ::)
have you got a shred of evidence that they werent used

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And Sami is perfectly entitled to think so.






The same as I'm also entitled to have my say too.

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The same as I'm also entitled to have my say too.
its always eagerly anticipated your opinion that is

Offline Roch

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I'm going slightly off topic here. If you look at Jeremy's blogs have you ever noticed how he sounds overly postive all of the time. Quotes such as " I am soon to be free" and have you ever noticed he has said the same dialogue since the ccrc review back in 2011??

From my own perspective of being a long time ex prisoner,  that's the voice of man subjected to confinement. What's minor to a free person is a massive victory to someone who has had their freedom taken off them. Put the guilt or innocence equation out of the picture for the moment.

I think these are really good posts.   

It's a shame CAL didn't have your insight, as she may have interpreted some of Jeremy's letters differently.

Offline JackieD

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I think these are really good posts.   

It's a shame CAL didn't have your insight, as she may have interpreted some of Jeremy's letters differently.

Very sad
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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More CAL’s Lies

The Jeremy Bamber crime scene photo that one woman will never forget
She wrote regular letters


White House Farm at Tolleshunt d'Arcy Essex
Carol Ann Lee was 16 during the summer of 1985 when five members of the same family were shot dead in a farm in Essex

Little did this girl know that one day she would be exchanging regular letters with their killer, Jeremy Bamber, the man convicted of murdering his own family to get his hands on his inheritance.



Carol, an author and autobiographer, decided she wanted to find out more after seeing a documentary about the notorious White House Farm murders.

She started work on her book in 2012 and even wrote to Bamber himself, who is serving a whole-life sentence and to this day protests his innocence


From the photos she’ll never forget, to the 'charming' letters she received from Bamber, here are the shocking things she learnt while investigating White House Farm murders.


Carol and Bamber exchanged regular letters in her time working on the book.
She said: "He comes across as very charming, but manipulative.
"He is very much in control of the information he wants to discuss."



The author claimed Bamber would not reply to questions about certain subjects, particularly his adoptive sister Sheila's personal life,
who was initially blamed for the case in a murder-suicide theory.

"What once was very frequent contact started to slow down," she said.

"He wanted to be able to tell his story of innocence, and convince the world that he did not kill his family."

Carol said that she always tried to keep an open mind on Bamber's guilt, but found his behaviour was hard to ignore.

She said: "He could be very personable, and would ask how I was, but he was very aware of his life.

"He offered to proof read my book, and point out any mistakes that I had made

"I told him that that wasn't going to work."

Carol claims to have seen photos that very few people have laid eyes on, and there is one she will never forget.

After seeing the tragic and horrific bloodbath that police were met with when they first discovered the bodies, she explained:

"One picture that I saw said to me that the person who did it was very good with a gun.

"This person was not at all shaky and knew how and where to shoot.

"This case got to me like nothing else has.
"I cannot get the pictures of the crime scene out of my head."


Carol has spoken with Bamber,

friends and the family of the victims and police officers who dealt with the case.


She explained: "You have to get so involved with the stories that you end up dreaming about them.


"I have so many dreams about White House Farm.”

In Carol’s personal opinion, she is 100 per cent sure that Bamber was the one to kill his family, and said she will be the "first to apologise" if he is ever acquitted.


She explained: "He will never stop appealing because he has nothing to lose.

"If he admits to his crimes, he might get parole but he will come out as a child killer.”


Carol's book, The Murders at White House Farm: Jeremy Bamber and the killing of his family.
The definitive investigation was first published in 2015.

She was approached by production company New Pictures who said they were going to be creating a TV drama about the crime.

She was asked to be a consultant for the production, and gave them a huge amount of her research to make the series.


Carol said: "It was very strange to see the actors as the characters.




She also got to be an extra in a courtroom scene.

The fictional version of Bamber's trial in the TV drama was filmed at Chelmsford Court Court, in the very next room to where the actual trial happened.
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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The author claimed Bamber would not reply to questions about certain subjects, particularly his adoptive sister Sheila's personal life, who was initially blamed for the case in a murder-suicide theory.

Why wouldn't he avoid questions about his sister's personal life? He probably knew it would all go in a book, or be published in the press.

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JB wasn't obliged to say anything that he didn't want to say. As it is, according to her book it looks as though she's put her own twist on what he told her anyway.

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Jeremy has NEVER spoken to CAL
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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It’s an absolute disgrace.
She needs to come up with some answers

We will start with where are the twisted letters

Next we will ask her what day she actually spoke to Jeremy

Caroline is in contact with her so she should be able to fill us in
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Where Gringo?
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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I didn't know Sheila had made 2 attempts at taking her life ?

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I am still not sure where I stand on CAL.

I used to think it was either sloppy research or a lack of critical thinking that led her to her conclusions. But the one sided nature of the book, the supple distortions of the evidence in the book. Plus the discrepancies over the letters. Has me thinking there could be a malicious element to it also. But if she "feels" the man is guilty of five murders. She wont really think she is doing anything wrong.  :-\
« Last Edit: February 03, 2020, 10:25:PM by David1819 »

Offline Jan

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"If he admits to his crimes, he might get parole but he will come out as a child killer.”



That’s not true though is it ? It was in the past , but I thought  now if if he said he was guilty he still won’t get parole ?

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"If he admits to his crimes, he might get parole but he will come out as a child killer.”



That’s not true though is it ? It was in the past , but I thought  now if if he said he was guilty he still won’t get parole ?

I think you right Jan. Ngb could confirm
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000