A question about the blood on the silencer

[Jan]

He denied seeing any blood or paint on the silencer at WHF on the stand at trial. That's why I am asking where you read he saw this at WHF.

now posted

official document but strangely not signed

[lookout]

You'll find that there aren't many documents that have been signed. I don't know why.

[Jan]

I know that the police did make compilation statements at a later date because there is evidence - but the words were taken from previous statements not made up ( one would hope )

[Jan]

so bumping this up as several discrepancies and I am sure the distraction posts will start soon .

[guest7363]

so bumping this up as several discrepancies and I am sure the distraction posts will start soon .

I wouldn’t have said that, it’s caused a distraction Jan 🙈

[Jan]

I wouldn’t have said that, it’s caused a distraction Jan 🙈

oops.

[lookout]

Anyway, to my mind, where there's a majority verdict it means that by definition guilt hasn't been proved beyond reasonable doubt because 2 people/jurors had their doubt in this where a life sentence should have carried a unanimous verdict.

Therefore those who think he did it or didn't do it should agree to a re-trial without majority direction to the jury. Doubts raised  about the original conviction should be looked at by the CoA who should be willing to quash the conviction simply because the jury got it wrong, but sadly the CoA doesn't work like that.

Jeremy was sent to prison because 10 people got it wrong, without a reason being given. 2 people were not convinced of his guilt.




 

[Jane]

Anyway, to my mind, where there's a majority verdict it means that by definition guilt hasn't been proved beyond reasonable doubt because 2 people/jurors had their doubt in this where a life sentence should have carried a unanimous verdict.

Therefore those who think he did it or didn't do it should agree to a re-trial without majority direction to the jury. Doubts raised  about the original conviction should be looked at by the CoA who should be willing to quash the conviction simply because the jury got it wrong, but sadly the CoA doesn't work like that.

Jeremy was sent to prison because 10 people got it wrong, without a reason being given. 2 people were not convinced of his guilt.

OR 10 got it right and 2 were wrong.

[David1819]

now posted

official document but strangely not signed

Ann Eaton told the Jury this in regards to her understanding of the silencer.

"At the time I did not know whether it was rabbit blood or what. and I thought the jewellery was the most important thing, turns out I was wrong."

This is a lie. Because the previous year her account on the same subject was as follows.

"We discussed the implication of how this silencer could be in the gun cupboard with blood and paint on it. Obviously if it was being alleged that somebody had had a brainstorm and shot dead four people they would surely not have stopped to remove the silencer, put it back in the gun cupboard, go back upstairs and shoot herself dead. Contact was made with the police about the discovery of the blood and paint stained silencer."

Ann Eaton told the court she thought it was rabbits blood.

RIVLIN: How could you imagine that the blood at the end of the silencer might be a rabbits blood?
ANN EATON: I don't know.
RIVLIN: That is what you told the court. How could you imagine that it might be a rabbits blood?
ANN EATON: Jeremy said he had been shooting rabbits the night before.

However Jeremy said he did not get a chance to shoot them. . Ann Eaton knew Jeremy said this and wrote this in her notes. Hence her answer "Jeremy said he had been shooting rabbits the night before." as for why she thought rabbit blood was on the silencer is clearly a lie.

Furthermore if she did indeed think it was rabbit blood and had no importance why did she report it to the police in the first place?

ARLIDGE: As a result of that being found, were police contacted?
ANN EATON: Yes, Witham Police
ARLIDGE: Do you know the date on which that took place?
ANN EATON: Saturday night.
ARLIDGE: That very evening?
ANN EATON: Yes.
MR. Justice Drake: (To the witness): Q: Who actually contacted them?
ANN EATON: It was probably me, but I cannot remember, but Witham Police were contacted.

[Jan]

see my suggested theory and questions a bit further back .

RB also looked at the silencer at WHF and saw nothing ( but said he did not have his glasses on )

there is a surprising amount of discrepancy in the fine detail of the finding .

[lookout]

OR 10 got it right and 2 were wrong.

Not in this case. Jeremy isn't even perturbed by going through files/documents should they throw up signs of guilt, he's soldiering on as an innocent person would, looking for answers.

[guest7363]

see my suggested theory and questions a bit further back .

RB also looked at the silencer at WHF and saw nothing ( but said he did not have his glasses on )

there is a surprising amount of discrepancy in the fine detail of the finding .

Have to agree and that’s what surprises me, why the need I can’t understand and it all adds to the, have they haven’t they 🙈

[Jane]

Not in this case. Jeremy isn't even perturbed by going through files/documents should they throw up signs of guilt, he's soldiering on as an innocent person would, looking for answers.

Lookout, it does rather go without saying that he's looking for any little thing that would point to innocence. Bit of a waste of time looking for guilt when he's considered guilty, isn't it?

[Jan]

Have to agree and that’s what surprises me, why the need I can’t understand and it all adds to the, have they haven’t they 🙈

I really cant understand why the police would not have made statements immediately on the 12th /13th august . Or perhaps they did and they are missing .

Even if the blood turned out not to be human that is what the family are saying they told the police so by not taking a atement until weeks later lays the whole thing open to critisism .

[susan]

Hi Lookout I would have thought when JB went on trial for murdering his family the Judge would have accepted a majority verdict only,  On this post I called you Looout )half of the letters are missing from my keyboard so can be difficult getting the post right xx