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Re: Colin Finally Gets voice!
« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2019, 10:58:PM »



1) He obviously got paid
2) He didn’t mention what he said when the police told him his family were dead
3) He doesn’t have a single bit of proof Jeremy is the killer
4) Mugford is a pathological liar and lied in the witness box
5) Colin knows there is important information about the case but hasn’t bothered to fight to have this
     Re Mugford etc
6) If Jeremy’s conviction is overturned he would probably be blamed re Sheila

I am confident that Mark Williams Thomas will end up getting to the truth as an ex policeman

I would trust Mark over Julie Mugford lies any day
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Years ago I made this programme about the #WhiteHouseFarmMurders that #JeremyBamber is in jail for . I am in regular contact with him & the evidence now available is compelling- that it was  Sheila Caffell responsible for murder/suicide. https://

If the drama doesn’t show the truth ie Mugford lies and the deception by the relatives it will open a can of worms for Colin, the relatives and Mugford

It’s laughable that Mugford ‘stories’ would be believed by anyone but a bunch of bent copies

Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2019, 11:09:PM »
It will, it's been sold to the US and will be shown there later next year. Wounder if the solicitor had written the the US network too?  ::)
I really hope Colin gets some closure after this Caroline, I think Julie has to live everyday with what she did, but what Colin has had to endure is unthinkable, bless him.

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Re: Colin Finally Gets voice!
« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2019, 11:11:PM »
The Sxn is a wonderful source of lies. Look what it wrote about Hillsborough.?

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« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2019, 11:22:PM »
The Sxn is a wonderful source of lies. Look what it wrote about Hillsborough.?

Lookout as you can read Colin is quoting ‘honest’ Julie Mugford

I sincerely hope he has got more than that to ‘sell’ his side of the story as closure

It’s absolutely shocking, I bet Julie Mugford is horrified she’s going to be bought into the public eye again and scrutinised
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: Colin Finally Gets voice!
« Reply #34 on: December 17, 2019, 11:32:PM »
The public aren't daft. They won't be taken in so easily .

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« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2019, 11:47:PM »
I know, to keep quoting what she says as gospel is laughable.

I wonder if any parent in this country would let there children go to a school where Mugford worked yet we are meant to accept that everything she’s done can be overlooked.

As I have said before whether Jeremy is innocent or guilty she’s a nasty piece of work that cannot be trusted as any kind of source for the truth

So Colin said Sheila was at her happiest
Really ???
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2019, 08:49:AM »
This is worth reading:-

https://tvfeatures[email protected]/12/17white-house-farm-interview-with-colin-caffell/


There has been much slating done by supporters here of Colin -they know who they are, and what foul and malicious things they've said of him- but the bottom line is that he was only one of thousands who find themselves in unworkable marriages, the difference is, THEY didn't find themselves centre-stage in a murder which robbed them of their children and their children's mother. He's been slagged off for leaving her but relationship counselors would concur that by so doing -separating himself from the marriage- he was able to be a much better father and support for Sheila. Probably why they were getting on much better than previously. No different from thousands of other marriages which break down. He wasn't to know his brother in law would rob him so cruelly.

Only the hardest of hearts will read what he says without being moved by it. Only the most mercenary will say he had a cash incentive. I feel that only now he has come to the best place possible for him to be, given what he's been through. As I read his words, I could almost feel the remaining grief weight lift.
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« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2019, 09:59:AM »
This is worth reading:-

https://tvfeatures[email protected]/12/17white-house-farm-interview-with-colin-caffell/


There has been much slating done by supporters here of Colin -they know who they are, and what foul and malicious things they've said of him- but the bottom line is that he was only one of thousands who find themselves in unworkable marriages, the difference is, THEY didn't find themselves centre-stage in a murder which robbed them of their children and their children's mother. He's been slagged off for leaving her but relationship counselors would concur that by so doing -separating himself from the marriage- he was able to be a much better father and support for Sheila. Probably why they were getting on much better than previously. No different from thousands of other marriages which break down. He wasn't to know his brother in law would rob him so cruelly.

Only the hardest of hearts will read what he says without being moved by it. Only the most mercenary will say he had a cash incentive. I feel that only now he has come to the best place possible for him to be, given what he's been through. As I read his words, I could almost feel the remaining grief weight lift.
Thanks so much Jane for bringing this to the forum, will read it later. Victims like Colin should be looked after,  bless him

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« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2019, 12:24:PM »
This is worth reading:-

https://tvfeatures[email protected]/12/17white-house-farm-interview-with-colin-caffell/


There has been much slating done by supporters here of Colin -they know who they are, and what foul and malicious things they've said of him- but the bottom line is that he was only one of thousands who find themselves in unworkable marriages, the difference is, THEY didn't find themselves centre-stage in a murder which robbed them of their children and their children's mother. He's been slagged off for leaving her but relationship counselors would concur that by so doing -separating himself from the marriage- he was able to be a much better father and support for Sheila. Probably why they were getting on much better than previously. No different from thousands of other marriages which break down. He wasn't to know his brother in law would rob him so cruelly.

Only the hardest of hearts will read what he says without being moved by it. Only the most mercenary will say he had a cash incentive. I feel that only now he has come to the best place possible for him to be, given what he's been through. As I read his words, I could almost feel the remaining grief weight lift.
What a powerful story that puts a lot of the myths dreamed up by Bamber supporters to bed about Sheila, coming from a man that lived it.  Now he finally has chance to put the record straight to a mass audience.  Hopefully this will help him move on Jane.  Shame on Bambers new Lawyer for asking for screening to be put back.

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« Reply #39 on: December 18, 2019, 12:43:PM »
Anyone who has a genuine interest in this miscarriage of justice case will only be interested in finding out the truth about Jeremy Bamber and if this was a murder or a murder suicide.

 

The impartial people on this forum who are not friends or relations of the prosecution witnesses are horrified by the withholding of evidence for no good reason and in particular evidence regarding the chief prosecution witness Julie Mugford. Might I add still withheld.

 

The people who have been in contact with me over the years are horrified that a man could have been in prison for over 30 years on the evidence of a pathological liar who continued to lie  in the witness box. Julie Mugford actually told the court she was an honest person. Colin professes to take the word of Julie Mugford and her version of events without question or evidence.

 

If you go onto the internet the definition of  honesty it means more than not lying. A more complete definition of honesty shows that an honest person doesn't do things that are morally wrong. Honesty is a facet of moral character that connotes positive and virtuous attributes such as integrity, truthfulness, straightforwardness, including straightforwardness of conduct, along with the absence of lying, cheating, theft, etc

 

There was nothing honest about Julie Mugford

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If I had lost my two sons in the way that Colin had I would want answers and I would have done everything I could to find out what led to her death. Was it the doctors fault, was it the wrong medication, I would not stop until I got the right answers.  Did Colin look for answers? Or did he just decide to take Julie Mugfords word for what was said without a shred of evidence and why did he take her word for what happened?

 

 

 

Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: Colin Finally Gets voice!
« Reply #40 on: December 18, 2019, 12:51:PM »
This is worth reading:-

https://tvfeatures[email protected]/12/17white-house-farm-interview-with-colin-caffell/


There has been much slating done by supporters here of Colin -they know who they are, and what foul and malicious things they've said of him- but the bottom line is that he was only one of thousands who find themselves in unworkable marriages, the difference is, THEY didn't find themselves centre-stage in a murder which robbed them of their children and their children's mother. He's been slagged off for leaving her but relationship counselors would concur that by so doing -separating himself from the marriage- he was able to be a much better father and support for Sheila. Probably why they were getting on much better than previously. No different from thousands of other marriages which break down. He wasn't to know his brother in law would rob him so cruelly.

Only the hardest of hearts will read what he says without being moved by it. Only the most mercenary will say he had a cash incentive. I feel that only now he has come to the best place possible for him to be, given what he's been through. As I read his words, I could almost feel the remaining grief weight lift.

https://tvfeatures.bradfordzone.co.uk/2019/12/17/white-house-farm-interview-with-colin-caffell/
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« Reply #41 on: December 18, 2019, 12:55:PM »
Anyone who has a genuine interest in this miscarriage of justice case will only be interested in finding out the truth about Jeremy Bamber and if this was a murder or a murder suicide.

 

The impartial people on this forum who are not friends or relations of the prosecution witnesses are horrified by the withholding of evidence for no good reason and in particular evidence regarding the chief prosecution witness Julie Mugford. Might I add still withheld.

 

The people who have been in contact with me over the years are horrified that a man could have been in prison for over 30 years on the evidence of a pathological liar who continued to lie  in the witness box. Julie Mugford actually told the court she was an honest person. Colin professes to take the word of Julie Mugford and her version of events without question or evidence.

 

If you go onto the internet the definition of  honesty it means more than not lying. A more complete definition of honesty shows that an honest person doesn't do things that are morally wrong. Honesty is a facet of moral character that connotes positive and virtuous attributes such as integrity, truthfulness, straightforwardness, including straightforwardness of conduct, along with the absence of lying, cheating, theft, etc

 

There was nothing honest about Julie Mugford

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If I had lost my two sons in the way that Colin had I would want answers and I would have done everything I could to find out what led to her death. Was it the doctors fault, was it the wrong medication, I would not stop until I got the right answers.  Did Colin look for answers? Or did he just decide to take Julie Mugfords word for what was said without a shred of evidence and why did he take her word for what happened?

Colin knows what happened to his boys, they were murdered by Jeremy Bamber. That's all he is interested in. He hasn't been brainwashed by the bullshit.
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« Reply #42 on: December 18, 2019, 12:59:PM »
https://tvfeatures.bradfordzone.co.uk/2019/12/17/white-house-farm-interview-with-colin-caffell/
It seems once he had the details explained to him, he said Sheila couldn’t have done that.’ She had never picked up a rifle in her life and certainly never knew how to fire one or re-load one.”

It reminds the viewer of the brutality of the whole thing. And the fact that Sheila, a slip of a girl at five foot seven, couldn’t overcome Nevill Bamber, a man who was six foot four, an active farmer who lifted bales. There was no way Sheila could have achieved that

Can’t wait to watch it, hope it gets the audience it deserves. 

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Re: Colin Finally Gets voice!
« Reply #43 on: December 18, 2019, 01:02:PM »
Colin knows what happened to his boys, they were murdered by Jeremy Bamber. That's all he is interested in. He hasn't been brainwashed by the bullshit.

As per usual your wrong !

That’s why so many lawyers, criminologists, ex policemen are fighting to show the truth

In all your posts you have never shown proof Jeremy was guilty
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« Reply #44 on: December 18, 2019, 01:13:PM »
As per usual your wrong !

That’s why so many lawyers, criminologists, ex policemen are fighting to show the truth

In all your posts you have never shown proof Jeremy was guilty


What gives you the right to think you know better than the father of those murdered boys when everything you post is slanted in favour of their murderer and therefore SERIOUSLY flawed?