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Re: Daily Mirror Exclusive: Bambi Killer 19/10/2019
« Reply #315 on: November 03, 2019, 04:05:PM »
Were the police accustomed to the road they took at dead of night without lighting, only their headlights ? I imagine that anyone not familiar with this journey would be quicker in daylight than at night. Just sayin'.

I can't imagine that police covered that journey too often prior to the murders ?

It was their patch, of course they would be.
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« Reply #316 on: November 03, 2019, 04:09:PM »
I think she had her own moral code ironically, though whether June's influence was forefront in her mind is a moot point. I think she liked the attention of men but knew when to stop, though may have been naïve enough to think she was in control. She was horrified at the risqué photographs she had been tricked into producing and which June used as yet another bargaining chip against her daughter possibly in relation to the twins' future.


Steve, I don't think you can have the remotest idea of how great "the ring of truth about it" is your first sentence!!! I SO recognize June's rigid moral code, and understand exactly how conflicting can be trying to adhere to it when it's at odds with one's own, which are NOT lax, just other.

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« Reply #317 on: November 03, 2019, 04:16:PM »

Steve, I don't think you can have the remotest idea of how great "the ring of truth about it" is your first sentence!!! I SO recognize June's rigid moral code, and understand exactly how conflicting can be trying to adhere to it when it's at odds with one's own, which are NOT lax, just other.
If only she hadn't driven Colin away with her behaviours (which I blame on her illness and not the intrinsic Sheila herself) I don't think the murders would ever have occurred.

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« Reply #318 on: December 24, 2019, 10:34:AM »
If only she hadn't driven Colin away with her behaviours (which I blame on her illness and not the intrinsic Sheila herself) I don't think the murders would ever have occurred.
good point steve,i would agree with that

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« Reply #319 on: December 24, 2019, 12:46:PM »
If only she hadn't driven Colin away with her behaviours (which I blame on her illness and not the intrinsic Sheila herself) I don't think the murders would ever have occurred.

Well, who can say what would have happened, but Sheila's illness helped Bamber user her as a patsy. Had she not been ill, she may have been successful as a model, she may never have married Colin. I think if the Bambers hadn't sent them off to boarding school, they both may have been different people.
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« Reply #320 on: December 24, 2019, 01:29:PM »
If only she hadn't driven Colin away with her behaviours (which I blame on her illness and not the intrinsic Sheila herself) I don't think the murders would ever have occurred.
I don’t know Steve, he had been planning this a long while, although Sheila’s illness helped him, I’m sure he would have found other ways and means of tarnishing his sister and his hatred for the family.  He was so quick to offer all the dirt on his sister it’s as though it was rehearsed.

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« Reply #321 on: December 24, 2019, 02:12:PM »
I don’t know Steve, he had been planning this a long while, although Sheila’s illness helped him, I’m sure he would have found other ways and means of tarnishing his sister and his hatred for the family.  He was so quick to offer all the dirt on his sister it’s as though it was rehearsed.


And naturally, what interests me most, is when that growing hatred first took hold. Might it be that, as a small boy, being groomed to take over the family business, admiring of his "father" though he may have been, he already knew that farming wasn't for him? Might it have been the moment he was told that the father he'd worshiped, and tried his best to emulate, was, in fact, not related to him at all? Might it have strengthened when, just a short time later, the, now, non father and non mother decided it would be best for him to be sent away to school? Might it have been when his non sister appeared to get her own way in everything? She didn't like one school so was allowed to go to another. She managed to escaped and PAID to do it! Hairdressing, secretarial work, modelling, generally living it up? All he had to look forward to was a life of drudgery. THEN, instead of coming back to some sort of secretarial position on the farm, where she may have been of use, she finds herself a hippy boyfriend, gets pregnant and married, in that order, and gets it all paid for. Might it have been, after her marriage failed, when she succumbed to mental fragility and chronic illness, that a deep rooted plan finally took hold? Might it have been then that he saw his life becoming the same old, going forward to middle age, to support her medical needs and fund her children? Might he have envisaged a very different life for himself, if only he could get his hands on his inheritance, whilst he was still young enough to enjoy it?

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« Reply #322 on: December 24, 2019, 04:35:PM »

And naturally, what interests me most, is when that growing hatred first took hold. Might it be that, as a small boy, being groomed to take over the family business, admiring of his "father" though he may have been, he already knew that farming wasn't for him? Might it have been the moment he was told that the father he'd worshiped, and tried his best to emulate, was, in fact, not related to him at all? Might it have strengthened when, just a short time later, the, now, non father and non mother decided it would be best for him to be sent away to school? Might it have been when his non sister appeared to get her own way in everything? She didn't like one school so was allowed to go to another. She managed to escaped and PAID to do it! Hairdressing, secretarial work, modelling, generally living it up? All he had to look forward to was a life of drudgery. THEN, instead of coming back to some sort of secretarial position on the farm, where she may have been of use, she finds herself a hippy boyfriend, gets pregnant and married, in that order, and gets it all paid for. Might it have been, after her marriage failed, when she succumbed to mental fragility and chronic illness, that a deep rooted plan finally took hold? Might it have been then that he saw his life becoming the same old, going forward to middle age, to support her medical needs and fund her children? Might he have envisaged a very different life for himself, if only he could get his hands on his inheritance, whilst he was still young enough to enjoy it?
Some excellent points there Jane, it’s a combination of what you wrote, Coupled with  the turning point in his life was the New Zealand trip and meeting up with the likes of Brett, he become introduced to the drug and criminal world.

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« Reply #323 on: December 24, 2019, 04:50:PM »
Some excellent points there Jane, it’s a combination of what you wrote, Coupled with the turning point in his life was the New Zealand trip and meeting up with the likes of Brett, he become introduced to the drug and criminal world.
I'm not sure what the turning point was. Remember in the Roger Wilkes book he states that he got on perfectly well with his mother until 1978, but does not elaborate further. This may be true: consider also the Jubilee photograph of 1977 where a very youthful, nay juvenile-looking Jeremy Bamber seems to have taken on June's colouring and gravitated towards her, Nevill by this stage becoming the hard-headed businessman to whom he could barely relate. In my opinion the turning point was his parents' treatment of Suzette, not relationship or marriage material in their eyes, whereas Jeremy probably worshipped her. The stress of rejection was the cause of her miscarriages in his view, whilst Sheila as Jane says seemed to have had everything handed on a plate to her, whilst producing beautiful offspring to boot, the apple of Nevill and June's eyes, in contrast to the affectionless way he had been brought up.

Jeremy to Julie on his parents: He confided to his girlfriend Julie Mugford that their treatment of him had "forfeited their right to live".

Jeremy on Sheila: Sheila demanded exorcism,and said if she could not be exorcised she should die..

Colin on Sheila: "She was a naive and frightened child. She had been through a difficult and confusing time. The world frightened her. She had tried to cover this up and only those closest to her knew how lonely and vulnerable she was."
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« Reply #324 on: December 24, 2019, 05:14:PM »
I don’t know Steve, he had been planning this a long while, although Sheila’s illness helped him, I’m sure he would have found other ways and means of tarnishing his sister and his hatred for the family.  He was so quick to offer all the dirt on his sister it’s as though it was rehearsed.
so from a guilty prospective, the fact Shelia would have been at sound mind would have stopped the murderous Jeremy Bamber from trying to claim what was his?.....
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« Reply #325 on: December 24, 2019, 05:15:PM »
so from a guilty perspective the fact Shelia would have been at sound mind would have stopped the murderous Jeremy Bamber from trying to claim what was his?.....
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« Reply #326 on: December 24, 2019, 05:31:PM »
I'm not sure what the turning point was. Remember in the Roger Wilkes book he states that he got on perfectly well with his mother until 1978, but does not elaborate further. This may be true: consider also the Jubilee photograph of 1977 where a very youthful, nay juvenile-looking Jeremy Bamber seems to have taken on June's colouring and gravitated towards her, Nevill by this stage becoming the hard-headed businessman to whom he could barely relate. In my opinion the turning point was his parents' treatment of Suzette, not relationship or marriage material in their eyes, whereas Jeremy probably worshipped her. The stress of rejection was the cause of her miscarriages in his view, whilst Sheila as Jane says seemed to have had everything handed on a plate to her, whilst producing beautiful offspring to boot, the apple of Nevill and June's eyes, in contrast to the affectionless way he had been brought up.


Yes I forgot about her Steve, I’m going to catch up on that part, I’ve focused on Brett for a while because this guy is a big link for me.

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« Reply #327 on: December 24, 2019, 06:40:PM »
Yes I forgot about her Steve, I’m going to catch up on that part, I’ve focused on Brett for a while because this guy is a big link for me.
He was in on the action post-murders yet has slipped under the radar somehow. Very strange..