The Truth and the Documentary

[Steve_uk]

I'm asking you to get in touch with those in a legal capacity and ask them in your own words why are they wasting their time and energy.
I'm sick of whingers who won't/don't get to the source of their grievances. If I was in the shoes of the guilters I'd have been in touch with them ages ago rather than keep crowing on about the same damn thing as well as sniping at others to cause bad feeling if they happen to support someone who allegedly killed the family along with two children.

I'm open to somebody sowing some modicum of doubt in my mind but for seven years I've been convinced that Jeremy Bamber is a conman who chanced his arm at murder and lost. The guilters may be repeating ad nauseum the same old arguments but the Bamberettes are guilty of doing exactly the same thing.

[ILB]

I wouldn't mind if you had something intelligent to say, but these nuggets are few and far between if they exist at all. I'm not quite sure why I dislike you so much: others have made much the same personal comments (ngb1066 once said I didn't know one end of a silencer to the other) over the period of 7 years I've been a member here. It's not because of your pro-Jeremy stance: other posters such as Mike, lookout and David are of the same persuasion and I seem to relate amicably enough to them.

Maybe it's the "I know more than you" remark which seems to be pervasive in modern society today. We had it with Tony Blair during the Iraq war with the dodgy dossier during which 1 million people lost their lives. Let me tell you now ilovebooze: I do not expect an ex-con who has probably not studied the case for very long (your attempt at picking my brains was a dismal failure which is why you changed tack with personal invective) to know more than someone who has studied the case for seven years.

how have I attempted to pick your brains? Where have I failed immensely I regards to yourself? If anything tbh, the roads you've tried making I've been able to make them into cul-de-sacs. You lead tangible tales that hold little relevance. And also, by referring to me as an "ex con" in a way to generate some sort of negativity only highlights the weakness in your arguments...

[lookout]

Metaphorically spoken as JB did about what he would do to his family, except that JB was taken seriously

[Jane]

What about the bit where Colin referred to June when he'd said he'd have done it himself ( killed June )  ?It's in his book as he speaks about her behaviour toward the twins making them pray at every given opportunity.

Are you really suggesting that you believe Colin to have been capable of murder? I heard, and read, that he was as angry with June, as would any parent have been when they felt a grandparent had acted in a way they found unacceptable. "I could have killed.........." is little more than a throwaway line used to describe our disapproval or anger.

[Steve_uk]

What about the bit where Colin referred to June when he'd said he'd have done it himself ( killed June )  ?It's in his book as he speaks about her behaviour toward the twins making them pray at every given opportunity.

But people do make throwaway comments all the time: only a tiny minority take them seriously and act upon them.

[lookout]

Are you really suggesting that you believe Colin to have been capable of murder? I heard, and read, that he was as angry with June, as would any parent have been when they felt a grandparent had acted in a way they found unacceptable. "I could have killed.........." is little more than a throwaway line used to describe our disapproval or anger.

I'm NOT suggesting anything  of the sort!! I used the word metaphorical in stating what both Colin and Jeremy had said so stop twisting----again 

[lookout]

I'm just comparing---making flesh of one and fowl of another ! Both phrases were uttered in the same context without carrying it out----which goes for JB himself.

[Steve_uk]

how have I attempted to pick your brains? Where have I failed immensely I regards to yourself? If anything tbh, the roads you've tried making I've been able to make them into cul-de-sacs. You lead tangible tales that hold little relevance. And also, by referring to me as an "ex con" in a way to generate some sort of negativity only highlights the weakness in your arguments...

Mike is an ex-con who has earned my respect over the seven years I've been here. I'm not going to get into a slanging match with you: do some research of your own before shouting your mouth off, maybe first by reading some of Mike's and lookout's post if you wish to be confirmed in your belief of Jeremy's innocence (they make a much better job of it than you probably ever will), then try and widen your horizons a little by considering the alternative view.

[Jane]

I'm NOT suggesting anything  of the sort!! I used the word metaphorical in stating what both Colin and Jeremy had said so stop twisting----again 

If you read what I wrote, rather than what you THINK I wrote, these "twisting" attacks would be unnecessary. I asked a question. I DIDN'T make a statement. The only answers open to that were "No" or "Yes".

[Jane]

I'm just comparing---making flesh of one and fowl of another ! Both phrases were uttered in the same context without carrying it out----which goes for JB himself.

Except that when Colin said it, June was already dead. When Jeremy said it, she was very much alive.

[ILB]

Mike is an ex-con who has earned my respect over the seven years I've been here. I'm not going to get into a slanging match with you: do some research of your own before shouting your mouth off, maybe first by reading some of Mike's and lookout's post if you wish to be confirmed in your belief of Jeremy's innocence (they make a much better job of it than you probably ever will), then try and widen your horizons a little by considering the alternative view.

i couldn't care about your respect or admiration in the slightest. It's not a forum to make friends is it? It's about the case of Jeremy Bamber. The only thing I've seen you put forward to me is the question of why Jeremy hasn't been harrassing Julie for all these years out of bitterness. And I answered you.....

[Steve_uk]

i couldn't care about your respect or admiration in the slightest. It's not a forum to make friends is it? It's about the case of Jeremy Bamber. The only thing I've seen you put forward to me is the question of why Jeremy hasn't been harrassing Julie for all these years out of bitterness. And I answered you.....

I was answering #407, specifically about the ex-con comment. I don't have high hopes for you on this site, but as a Christian I'll reserve judgement.

[ILB]

I was answering #407, specifically about the ex-con comment. I don't have high hopes for you on this site, but as a Christian I'll reserve judgement.

with respect Steve you posted a question somewhere along the lines of ," why has Jeremy not been trying to undermine Julie for all these years" and i gave you a response....

[Steve_uk]

with respect Steve you posted a question somewhere along the lines of ," why has Jeremy not been trying to undermine Julie for all these years" and i gave you a response....

Yes and it was a pathetic one, demonstrating perfectly how distorted your view of this case is even at this early stage of your perusal.

[Kaldin]

It's in Colin's book so please have a modicum of respect that it is genuine.

I only asked for evidence - I haven't read his book. You can drop the attitude.