Daily Mirror Exclusive: Bambi Killer 19/10/2019

[Caroline]

Gosh this is heavy reading for bedtime Caroline. Do you think the Trump dynasty has benefited from the involvement of Eric and Ivanka?

Ha, ha Steve - just read the abstract and conclusion like I did! 

Think the Trump kids have done a Jeremy many times in their own imaginations - I know I have and he's not even a relation! 

[Steve_uk]

I wonder what Colin thought of that.

People who don't have rich parents would have to find themselves somewhere else and pay for it.

Colin tried to make the marriage work as best he could; in fact in London he was the one true steadfast friend Sheila had. Following the split Colin rented a room from Herbie his friend, who let him use the garage for his potter's wheel. I must say I admire Colin's artistic talents and often wonder what gifts Nicholas and Daniel would have harboured had they had the chance to live.

[Jane]

it only takes about 7 miutes to drive normally from Jeremy's cottage to the farmhouse. The Jeremy could have been at whf at 3.26am, and back at his cottage in time for him to call the police again at 3.37am..

I beg to differ. I was at the Chequers a few weeks back and made a point of timing the journey -from the Church Road junction which is a little nearer than the Head Street junction. In broad daylight, at an average speed of 45mph, it took 8 minutes to arrive at the Tollesbury Road junction, from where, given the speed at which Jeremy was seen to be driving -approx 30mph- it would have taken at least another 3 minutes, plus stopping time to put on a jumper, to get to WHF.

[David1819]

I beg to differ. I was at the Chequers a few weeks back and made a point of timing the journey -from the Church Road junction which is a little nearer than the Head Street junction. In broad daylight, at an average speed of 45mph, it took 8 minutes to arrive at the Tollesbury Road junction, from where, given the speed at which Jeremy was seen to be driving -approx 30mph- it would have taken at least another 3 minutes, plus stopping time to put on a jumper, to get to WHF.

Mike done the journey in 7 minutes.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jJWOymoAlaU

[Jane]

Shackles? He was a grown man who could do other things if he wanted, and it sounds as if he did try. He wasn't stuck anywhere.

Hello Kaldin. It's good to see you back and I love your reasoned posts. I must however, disagree with part of your last one. Certainly Jeremy "was a grown man who could do other things..........." but for every action there's a consequence. A huge one for Jeremy being that he would only, according to Nevill's will, come into his inheritance if he was farming at the time. So basically, the guy's screwed! He spends his young, oat sowing years, breaking his neck doing a job he feels forced into, rather than loves doing, whilst his sister gets it all handed to her on a plate and lives far enough away that her every move can't be monitored, and after their parents' deaths she and her boys would be receiving -for free- a portion of what he'd have to work for. I'd call that feeling shackled.

[Jane]

I'm sure he did, but that doesn't mean he was prepared to kill his entire family to get it, including two very young children. He could have got out of there, made a life for himself, moved to London or somewhere else, got a job - whatever. That's usually what people do when they don't like the life they have.

I believe that's what those do with their lives who feel free to. Many adopted children don't enjoy such freedom and do what they're told is expected of them. A small fortune is, of course, a great incentive. At least one can be miserable in comfort.

[Jane]

Sometimes I think that having well-off parents is a disadvantage in life. If there's no money in the family, people have to work things out for themselves, and that makes them free.

It's certainly of no advantage to have money dangled in front of one like a carrot. It's even worse to be told that unless one adheres to certain strictures the money will go elsewhere.

[Jane]

Maybe, but jobs were found for them, houses were found for them. They didn't have to do much for themselves did they? That can be an advantage in life, but it can also be a disadvantage in that perhaps they didn't feel they could cope on their own without financial support or without someone finding jobs and houses for them.

The other point is that whilst the Bambers were handing out cash they retained a strong hold. I think it highly likely that both Jeremy and Sheila saw them as a bottomless money-pit. Sheila needed their support because she was unlikely to be capable of completely independent life. Conversely, whilst they continued to fund Jeremy, he could never be completely INdependent of them.

[maggie]

The other point is that whilst the Bambers were handing out cash they retained a strong hold. I think it highly likely that both Jeremy and Sheila saw them as a bottomless money-pit. Sheila needed their support because she was unlikely to be capable of completely independent life. Conversely, whilst they continued to fund Jeremy, he could never be completely INdependent of them.

I have wondered lately if Sheila had Borderline Personality disorder.  She certainly seemed to be highly, highly anxious and struggled to function or hold down a job, alongside other problems.  It would not be too surprising particularly with the shock of being told suddenly that her parents were actually not her parents and being sent away to boarding school.  Think June seemed to have some kind of disorder which could have been too much for Sheila to cope with.  Just a thought.

[Jane]

I have wondered lately if Sheila had Borderline Personality disorder.  She certainly struggled with life and seemed to be highly, highly anxious and unable to hold down a job aling side other problems.  It would not be too surprising particularly with the shock of being told suddenly that her parents were actually not her parents and being sent away to boarding school.  Think June seemed to have some kind of disorder which could have been too much for Sheila to cope with.  Just a thought.

And a feasible one. I get the feeling, of Sheila, that she was never given the chance to find out who she really was or what she wanted from life. Hardly surprising that she was confused. She certainly had the right to emotional insecurity.

[David1819]

I have wondered lately if Sheila had Borderline Personality disorder.  She certainly seemed to be highly, highly anxious and struggled to function or hold down a job, alongside other problems.  It would not be too surprising particularly with the shock of being told suddenly that her parents were actually not her parents and being sent away to boarding school.  Think June seemed to have some kind of disorder which could have been too much for Sheila to cope with.  Just a thought.

Struggling to function or hold down a job could just be from schizophrenia and drugs.

[Caroline]

I have wondered lately if Sheila had Borderline Personality disorder.  She certainly seemed to be highly, highly anxious and struggled to function or hold down a job, alongside other problems.  It would not be too surprising particularly with the shock of being told suddenly that her parents were actually not her parents and being sent away to boarding school.  Think June seemed to have some kind of disorder which could have been too much for Sheila to cope with.  Just a thought.

Jeremy was told he was adopted aged eight - JUST before being sent to boarding school. Other than the farm, what job did he manage to hold onto?

[Kaldin]

Hello Kaldin. It's good to see you back and I love your reasoned posts. I must however, disagree with part of your last one. Certainly Jeremy "was a grown man who could do other things..........." but for every action there's a consequence. A huge one for Jeremy being that he would only, according to Nevill's will, come into his inheritance if he was farming at the time. So basically, the guy's screwed! He spends his young, oat sowing years, breaking his neck doing a job he feels forced into, rather than loves doing, whilst his sister gets it all handed to her on a plate and lives far enough away that her every move can't be monitored, and after their parents' deaths she and her boys would be receiving -for free- a portion of what he'd have to work for. I'd call that feeling shackled.

Hi Jane. Good to see you!

Jeremy was only "screwed" in the way that anyone is when they have parents who are well off. After all, those people can only have the money when their parents die, but they don't go round and shoot their parents - not usually.

This all comes down to Jeremy's personality. He knows that he gets most of the dosh if he's farming at the time of Nevill's death. I presume Nevill made that condition as farming needs money or whatever. If he's not farming at the time of Nevill's death, he gets half the money. Yes, he could decide to kill the whole of them, but he could also decide that he doesn't want to be "shackled" by waiting for many years and he could decide to get a life for himself instead. After all, he would still get half. He was only shackled by his own limitations.

Who said he hated farming anyway? Is there actually any evidence that he hated it and was only doing it in order to inherit most of the money?

[Kaldin]

I believe that's what those do with their lives who feel free to. Many adopted children don't enjoy such freedom and do what they're told is expected of them. A small fortune is, of course, a great incentive. At least one can be miserable in comfort.

Why would adopted children be any different? 

[Kaldin]

It's certainly of no advantage to have money dangled in front of one like a carrot. It's even worse to be told that unless one adheres to certain strictures the money will go elsewhere.

Half of the money, not all of it.

I do agree about these Wills where there are conditions attached. I've seen the fallout from that myself. However, someone would still need to be a complete psychopath to act on that resentment, and I've yet to see any evidence that Jeremy is a psychopath.