The ITV Drama

[lookout]

The relatives have pretty well remained in the background----yet they were pivotal in securing a conviction.
AE tearing round writing/ taking notes at every opportunity, including buying black flowers for Sheila 

None of them need the money now do they ??

[Steve_uk]

Are we talking about the actual events of 1985 or the semi fictional drama?

He told Liz he thought the twins were spoiled. I agree that the drama should not have invented scenes, which is why it should never have been made in the first place, at least not until all major players were dead.

[Steve_uk]

You do know that Jeremy was not there when Sheila had the breakdown don't you? Freddie was there, and Colin's mother came over as well. The twins were picked up by Colin's father.

Yes I really don't know why the scriptwriters included that particular scene.

[Kaldin]

The relatives have pretty well remained in the background----yet they were pivotal in securing a conviction.
AE tearing round writing/ taking notes at every opportunity, including buying black flowers for Sheila 

None of them need the money now do they ??

That was quite strange when Ann suggested getting black flowers. If Jeremy had said that, I think everyone would have thought that was very odd.

[Steve_uk]

I would like to see more about the money trail, the changing of the Will, Ann moving into the farm, Julie selling her story, what happened to Colin and Heather, the wrangling between relatives over who should get the money, etc.

I would have liked to see some missing characters - Robert Boutflour, Anthony Pargeter, Susan Battersby.

It's Murder at White House Farm, not The Forsyte Saga..

[Kaldin]

It's Murder at White House Farm, not The Forsyte Saga..

It was all part of it though.

I would also like to see more of Sheila played by Cressida Bonas - she did very well in the scenes she was in.

[Steve_uk]

It was all part of it though.

I would also like to see more of Sheila played by Cressida Bonas - she did very well in the scenes she was in.

Yes I agree it was quite selective in what was shown. I suppose the television company's lawyers scrutinized everything to the detriment of speculation on the characters, and will stick rigidly to the trial testimony in the forthcoming episode.

[Adam]

It's Murder at White House Farm, not The Forsyte Saga..

Yes too much to fit in. Although the NOTW deals may be included. CC & Heather since the massacre is of no interest to me.

Extra information for newbies can be found online or in books.

[Jan]

I agree about all the pivotal people that are missing . And the fact is that all the anomaly’s and twists and turns is what has kept us in this forum fascinated ( some even having the same discussions on two forums simultaneously 

They could have put so much more into the programme and it would have made it more interesting. There are things that are factual about the finances and money that could have been included .

It’s a shame because the way they have shown the house and the rooms etc has had good attention to detail and to be honest my other half who does not know much about the case has found it quite slow and boring .

[Kaldin]

Some of the scenes seemed to be out of sequence. At the start of the episode they showed Jeremy, Julie, and Sheila in a nightclub where Sheila had just come out of hospital. Then later they showed the breakdown in her flat. It should have been the other way round.

[Jan]

Yes too much to fit in. Although the NOTW deals may be included. CC & Heather since the massacre is of no interest to me.

Extra information for newbies can be found online or in books.

Yes but they can’t say much about the N.O.W deal can they ? as the date the deal was signed is very relevant and apparently all parties lost the paperwork .

[Jan]

Actually after watching the body in the pool programme the other night I found the journalists interviews very creepy . One in particular admitted the amount of money they paid to people at the party to be interviewed and said basically he knew the story was lies but did not care . They were there to get an exclusive at any cost and they did not care about the victim or family or the truth.

It made me understand what happened to all those involved in whf. A bit more . In fact this was very well covered in Colin’s book but hardly covered in the “drama” and yet it was relentless apparently . Hence why Colin went away as well as jeremy and Julie ( before you comment I know what you are going to say ) but I am commenting from a neutral point of view.

[lookout]

It was all part of it though.

I would also like to see more of Sheila played by Cressida Bonas - she did very well in the scenes she was in.

Especially when her father took her to the clinic for the final time and told her psychiatrist that her health had deteriorated, to which Ferguson had agreed.

[Romeo]

You firmly believe?  Yes....would it be easier for you to understand if i say...  in my Opinion I believe etc
Is that make believe ...Oh yes very witty, but it's not me living in a make believe world.

The fact is you don’t know do you ? Were you there since the twins birth ? When you make sweeping statements like that make sure you have something in the locker to back it up

To reply sensibly, no, thankfully I wasn't there, and more to the point neither were YOU!
My believe has come about by Colin Caffell's statements where he tells of JB saying the twins were a milestone around his neck... his hatred of the twins mother... and before you shout HOW... through his  jealousy over the attention Shelia was receiving owing to her illness and the money spent on her. (CAL's book) No we don't all believe your thoughts on Carol Ann Lee's book!  JB's warped ideas of how an inheritance maybe spread out. (Colin Caffell's book) where if the twins died before maturity then their father wouldn't benefit in any way. Even JB's act not long after the killings of copying a photo of one of the twins with his hair covered in spikey shampoo... no-one in their right mind would dream of doing this !

[Kaldin]

To reply sensibly, no, thankfully I wasn't there, and more to the point neither were YOU!
My believe has come about by Colin Caffell's statements where he tells of JB saying the twins were a milestone around his neck... his hatred of the twins mother... and before you shout HOW... through his  jealousy over the attention Shelia was receiving owing to her illness and the money spent on her. (CAL's book) No we don't all believe your thoughts on Carol Ann Lee's book!  JB's warped ideas of how an inheritance maybe spread out. (Colin Caffell's book) where if the twins died before maturity then their father wouldn't benefit in any way. Even JB's act not long after the killings of copying a photo of one of the twins with his hair covered in spikey shampoo... no-one in their right mind would dream of doing this !

Did Jeremy actually do that, other than in the drama?