The ITV Drama

[Caroline]

Jeremy Bamber and Brett Collins admit to the attempt at selling the photographs. I hold no candle for Michael Fielder but I hope that the impartial observer and particularly any potential new members are not deceived by these smoke and mirror tactics.

They can but try Steve - we won't let them though 

[gringo]

Jeremy Bamber and Brett Collins admit to the attempt at selling the photographs. I hold no candle for Michael Fielder but I hope that the impartial observer and particularly any potential new members are not deceived by these smoke and mirror tactics.

   When was this?

[Jan]

There are two versions neither can be proved to come direct from jeremy or Brett but a third party posted another version . It’s like the circle of doom . No proof . And an article written by a known liar . I rest my case 🙂

[susan]

Hi steve I honestly don't know what happened about the nude pics I know Colin wanted them back but Jeremy refused to hand them over he said he was keeping them he might be able to use them.  I believe they tried to sell them to the Sun but may I ask in the nicest possible way have we proof of this,

[gringo]

Hi steve I honestly don't know what happened about the nude pics I know Colin wanted them back but Jeremy refused to hand them over he said he was keeping them he might be able to use them.  I believe they tried to sell them to the Sun but may I ask in the nicest possible way have we proof of this,

    Colin's own statements refute this, Susan.
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1560.0.html
   

[gringo]

Hi steve I honestly don't know what happened about the nude pics I know Colin wanted them back but Jeremy refused to hand them over he said he was keeping them he might be able to use them.  I believe they tried to sell them to the Sun but may I ask in the nicest possible way have we proof of this,

  The "proof" Susan is the word of a proven liar and perjurer. It all depends on whether you believe in the credibility of Fielder despite all that we know about him.

[sami]

theres a clip on youtube where he tells his story in an interview on tv  ,surely if it was not true jb,s camp would have sued but they never.i think that says it all

[gringo]

theres a clip on youtube where he tells his story in an interview on tv  ,surely if it was not true jb,s camp would have sued but they never.i think that says it all

  It has been previously discussed, Sami. The canard about not suing is a red herring. Apart from anything else it would be difficult to argue that this story damages JB's reputation and standing given that he is convicted murderer. It just being false is not sufficient on it's own to win a libel action.

[susan]

Hi Gringo thanks for that I did think JB and Brett had confessed I don't believe anything Fielder says so really no proof proper then

[susan]

Gringo many thanks again I seem to be getting it all wrong tonight  I really appreciate your help.  Thank you

[gringo]

Gringo many thanks again I seem to be getting it all wrong tonight  I really appreciate your help.  Thank you

   Susan, none of us can know for certain what happened. If however the only evidence is Fielder's word, then it is fair to regard it as requiring evidence before it can possibly be considered as factual. You are as free to believe what you choose as I or anybody else. I choose not to believe Fielder on the not unreasonable grounds that I laid out earlier. He has lied previously, a lot.

[gringo]

There are two versions neither can be proved to come direct from jeremy or Brett but a third party posted another version . It’s like the circle of doom . No proof . And an article written by a known liar . I rest my case 🙂

   Is one of these versions the supposed non denial bullshit from some Express hack? Gruder? or something like that. He has said that Bamber didn't deny the story but when you look at the details, it turns out he wasn't asked. There was nothing to deny. Had he denied it to this Gruder? then we would be told he protests too much, indicating guilt. It's all smoke and mirrors from the guilters on this one not the other way round. All to distract from the fact that it rests entirely on the credibility of Fielder and he has none.

[David1819]

   Is one of these versions the supposed non denial bullshit from some Express hack? Gruder? or something like that. He has said that Bamber didn't deny the story but when you look at the details, it turns out he wasn't asked. There was nothing to deny. Had he denied it to this Gruder? then we would be told he protests too much, indicating guilt. It's all smoke and mirrors from the guilters on this one not the other way round. All to distract from the fact that it rests entirely on the credibility of Fielder and he has none.

Sound familiar?

https://world.time.com/2013/03/29/the-amanda-knox-haters-society-how-they-learned-to-hate-me-too/

[Caroline]

Denial.

[gringo]

Sound familiar?

https://world.time.com/2013/03/29/the-amanda-knox-haters-society-how-they-learned-to-hate-me-too/

   Same playbook. Most of the guilty arguments about JB revolve around some supposed fact questioning his character. These "facts" invariably come from dubious and interested parties and are often wild misrepresentations.