Jeremy Bamber proven innocent?

[lookout]

Yes, Julie was " groomed "-----by Stan Jones ! Her 32 page statement ?

[Jane]

Yes, Julie was " groomed "-----by Stan Jones ! Her 32 page statement ?

Well, NOW, perhaps, we're getting somewhere. If she was capable of being groomed by one man, she was capable of being groomed by another.

[Caroline]

If he's guilty, it's possible he saw Julie as a partner in crime, so of course he wanted to discuss it with her. Later on, he realised that she didn't approve of what he'd done and saw no future with her.

If he's innocent, he merely wanted his girlfriend there to comfort him.

This is how I see it.

[Jane]

Look, if you're going to have a go at me for posting my opinion, look at your own posts and admit that they're just your opinion. If you have no evidence that Julie was "groomed", then don't present it as a fact. Has it occurred to you that Julie liked being involved in crime, and that she actually had a mind of her own?

But it's fine for you to question me, is it? No, my posts aren't "JUST" my opinion. They're observations based on years of hard work to attain qualifications, and furthered by experience. Yes, what you say of Julie MAY be a possibility, but there's nothing else about her to suggest it. I think you're simply straw clutching because you don't want me to be right.

[Kaldin]

But it's fine for you to question me, is it? No, my posts aren't "JUST" my opinion. They're observations based on years of hard work to attain qualifications, and furthered by experience. Yes, what you say of Julie MAY be a possibility, but there's nothing else about her to suggest it. I think you're simply straw clutching because you don't want me to be right.

They are just your opinion. I disagreed with one of your posts and you got aggressive about it. Your opinion is no more valid than mine - remember that.

There is nothing to suggest that Julie was "groomed". I don't think you're right - I think you have a bee in your bonnet about Julie being a "victim".

[Jane]

They are just your opinion. I disagreed with one of your posts and you got aggressive about it. Your opinion is no more valid than mine - remember that.

There is nothing to suggest that Julie was "groomed". I don't think you're right - I think you have a bee in your bonnet about Julie being a "victim".

You're fully entitled to think what you want. It's entirely down to you how you choose to read my words. How non aggressive -insulting!!- is your claim that "Your opinion is no more valid than mine - Remember that"?

So, in YOUR opinion, Julie wasn't groomed. I haven't made the claim that she definitely was. What I've said is that she has said she was abused and if that's the case, it's LIKELY -not a certainty- that she'd be in another abusive relationship.

[Kaldin]

What was this alleged abusive relationship she was in earlier?

[Jane]

What was this alleged abusive relationship she was in earlier?

I can only tell you that she has claimed it to have happened, and I know that to be so. I'm not prepared to say more, it would mean breaking confidence.

[Kaldin]

I can only tell you that she has claimed it to have happened, and I know that to be so. I'm not prepared to say more, it would mean breaking confidence.

Well then it's just hearsay, and I won't take it into account.

[ILB]

This is how I see it.

very dangerous position Jeremy Bamber would find himself in though if indeed guilty. Forever in fear of what a women who he had jilted could tell authorities. I'm inclined to believe, that if indeed guilty he'd be wanting to keep her buttered up. Even if he had previous arrogantly told her. He'd realized he had dropped a bollock in doing so. To continue living a life as a free man post massacre, he had to keep Julie on side. Cater to her every whim etc

[Jane]

Well then it's just hearsay, and I won't take it into account.

I'm delighted if it means you'll no longer question me about it. My problem is -has always been- that I live a scant few miles from Jeremy's family in one direction (and have friends who were friends of the Bambers) and an equally scant few miles from Julie's family in the opposite direction (and have friends who are friends with them) I've been told things...............

[Kaldin]

I'm delighted if it means you'll no longer question me about it. My problem is -has always been- that I live a scant few miles from Jeremy's family in one direction (and have friends who were friends of the Bambers) and an equally scant few miles from Julie's family in the opposite direction (and have friends who are friends with them) I've been told things...............

I only questioned you once about it - after you brought it up. Perhaps you shouldn't have brought it up if you can't corroborate it.

[lookout]

Well, NOW, perhaps, we're getting somewhere. If she was capable of being groomed by one man, she was capable of being groomed by another.

She chose money over honesty though ! Not so vulnerable, eh ?

[Jane]

She chose money over honesty though ! Not so vulnerable, eh ?

Jeremy chose money over his family's lives.

[lookout]

Jeremy chose money over his family's lives.

How could/did he, it was already in the planning by the relatives after they'd seen their own paltry legacy ?