Jeremy Bamber proven innocent?

[Kaldin]

Poor Nevill hadn't got the time to put on his pyjamas properly. He couldn't have had his jacket on when burns were found down the back of his neck or on his arm as the jacket didn't show any sign of burn holes.
His pyjama bottoms were rolled down to his ankles when he was discovered by police. So Nevill had been in the process of putting on his night clothes when he was attacked-----which would have been enough to have sent him off-balance at only being half-dressed/undressed.

That can't have happened. He would have had to go downstairs with his PJ bottoms around his ankles. I think they fell down during the struggle in the kitchen.

[Steve_uk]

I think that if Jeremy Bamber had used the gun with the silencer he would have made sure it had disappeared and had never been found again. Not just popped it back into a cupboard.

He knew he would have Ann Eaton to reckon with, which is why he was flattering her for months prior to the murders. Her husband Peter was a gun dealer so Jeremy surmised that the silencer would be missed.

[Steve_uk]

it's just my opinion. But even let's say Shelia was heavily medicated and Jeremy was trying to position her to kill her. Even if she was overpowered. She would have put up some sort of fight or resistance. Whether it be clawing. Kicking, biting or whatever. I also believe that she would have marked his face. As that's a logical place to strike back when your under attack. As far as I'm aware Jeremy Bamber did not possess any visible marks or bruises on his face when in contact with the police at the first stage 7.8.85?? And I don't recall any officer making a remark or a statement to visualising any facial injury to him. Again it's speculation. But it's a viable scenario

She wasn't in a fit state, poor love. Several witnesses noticed her fragility that last day.

[ILB]

He knew he would have Ann Eaton to reckon with, which is why he was flattering her for months prior to the murders. Her husband Peter was a gun dealer so Jeremy surmised that the silencer would be missed.

he was buttering her up because they had plans for the caravan Park. If he had got rid of the silencer. What would he have to fear? It would have never been discovered with blood by the relatives ( or properly as it " should" have been by the initial search teams in August of 1985. In essence it's existence would have never been known of.

[Kaldin]

He knew he would have Ann Eaton to reckon with, which is why he was flattering her for months prior to the murders. Her husband Peter was a gun dealer so Jeremy surmised that the silencer would be missed.

Why would Peter Eaton or Ann need to know the silencer was missing? Jeremy didn't have to let them have access to the house.

[Steve_uk]

why was Neville found downstairs??

It had to be made to appear that he had made a telephone call, so more likely in the kitchen. Jean Boutell the housekeeper said that it had been "musical phones" that last week, which suited Jeremy's purposes on the unsuspecting couple who became bereft of a telephone in the master bedroom. I think Nevill played into his son's hands by getting past him after the initial few rounds, with Jeremy shooting him from a distance from the stairs when Nevill was in the hallway, hence the bloodied wallpaper in that area.

[ILB]

Let's not change the prior subject caroline. Why was Nevill found in his bedwear when you submit he was ambushed by junior prior to taking a shower back at whf???

[Steve_uk]

but wouldn't it be much more plausible if Jeremy Bamber was guilty that he would have waited till the early hours when all the family were asleep. And was startled by nevill who had been awoken by June ( she was by all accounts a notoriously light sleeper) after Jeremy entered WHF the farmhouse. Nevill goes downstairs to investigate which commences the father, son violent struggle

He may have left a window ajar before departing for Bourtree Cottage. He had to kill the twins first to prevent them from waking any of the adults. Sheer diablerie.

[lookout]

That can't have happened. He would have had to go downstairs with his PJ bottoms around his ankles. I think they fell down during the struggle in the kitchen.

Where was his jacket during that time ?

[Kaldin]

Where was his jacket during that time ?

What jacket lookout?

[Steve_uk]

he was buttering her up because they had plans for the caravan Park. If he had got rid of the silencer. What would he have to fear? It would have never been discovered with blood by the relatives ( or properly as it " should" have been by the initial search teams in August of 1985. In essence it's existence would have never been known of.

But how would he know he would have more influence on that particular area of the business in the near future?

[Kaldin]

It had to be made to appear that he had made a telephone call, so more likely in the kitchen. Jean Boutell the housekeeper said that it had been "musical phones" that last week, which suited Jeremy's purposes on the unsuspecting couple who became bereft of a telephone in the master bedroom. I think Nevill played into his son's hands by getting past him after the initial few rounds, with Jeremy shooting him from a distance from the stairs when Nevill was in the hallway, hence the bloodied wallpaper in that area.

Do you know where the telephone usually was in the bedroom? Nevill's side or June's side?

[Kaldin]

I can think of only one reason why Jeremy didn't get rid of the silencer. He might have thought that they could tell the bullets had passed through a silencer. However, there's absolutely no reason he would have put it back in the cupboard because he'd have to explain why Sheila would have put it there before she shot herself, and he certainly wouldn't put it back in there without cleaning it. 

[lookout]

What jacket lookout?

His pyjama jacket. He couldn't have had that on, but someone must have put it on after he'd died ? Because there was no blood-staining, no burn holes where his arm was injured.

[Kaldin]

His pyjama jacket. He couldn't have had that on, but someone must have put it on after he'd died ? Because there was no blood-staining, no burn holes where his arm was injured.

Vanezis said there was blood staining on the PJ jacket. The burns were on Nevill's back, but they are a mystery to me.