Re: The murder of Jodi Jones

[Caroline]

Sandra has put much out via publications and other media outlets if this was not true where’s the litigation ?

So no proof?

[Caroline]

How can you possibly know that?!

Did they never recover the texts? What about her phone?

[gordo30]

So no proof?

The proof that they were deleted are in the logs as part of the investigation files, the phone was in the possession of the police when things were deleted.

[gordo30]

Did they never recover the texts? What about her phone?

No only the times the texts were sent. She didn’t have one she through it at a wall!

[sandra L]

I'm sorry, I seem to have caused a bit of a misunderstanding. Of the incoming voicemail call on Luke's phone that night, I said

the records show, quite clearly, that this was a log of an incoming voicemail from Corinne asking where he was, being recorded on his phone, not Luke checking it

I didn't mean the actual call was still on Luke's phone - I should have made that clearer. The record of the call going to voicemail is in the phone logs, Corinne said in her statement that she was trying to call Luke to find out what was going on, but got his voicemail - the timings given in her statement and both her and Luke's phone records all matched up. My point was that the police deliberately lied about Luke "checking his voicemail" when the log is clearly labelled "incoming."

All of the police assertions regarding the phone calls, texts, etc, were put to Luke in the Section 14 interrogation 6 weeks after the murder. By then, the police had the phone logs - they also recovered a text from Corinne to Luke saying, "Right, you tell me right now what's going on - I'm coming up to get you" (not recovered from Luke's phone).

The statement from the phone expert who examined the phone appears to suggest that the police may have inadvertently wiped the call logs, etc, not that they did so deliberately.Either way, according to their own statements, the police officers who put Luke in the back of the police vehicle and took his phone did so before 12.30, the time the expert said the logs were deleted.

[sandra L]

Will she back it up with proof.

I'm not sure which part of this some posters don't seem to understand. I've listed the documents I know are in the case files

"I'll indicate where I have documents that I can post (either in full, or excerpts, depending on what the legal situation allows) but please bear with me - there are hundreds of documents in no order whatsoever, and I have to sort all of them - I will post what I find, as I find it, rather than searching through all the boxes for specific documents. If someone wants to keep a record of this post, they can tick off the information I've made public and keep a list of what I haven't yet found."

This "no proof" argument is ridiculous - I can only provide the "proof" required from the case papers which I'd have to search through to find the various bits and pieces being requested. Some of them I won't be able to post in full anyway - not that I don't want to but because legally, I'm not allowed to.

But I don't have time to spend searching through the boxes at the instant demands of anonymous posters on a forum - I do have a life to live as well. I'll post the stuff when I can - if people don't like that, I'm sorry, but that's the way of it.

[nugnug]

How can you possibly know that?!

well its very simple who would he be texting jodi on her mums phone if so jodis mum would have the texts wouldent she and i think she might mention it.

his friends well i dont think they would have kept uite would they his own mum well they looked at her phone as well and they could ceranly trace anytexts between him nd his mums phone.

[Bullseye]

Did they never recover the texts? What about her phone?

I think her phone was broken and she was putting her SIM card in her mums phone to send the txt to Luke. As far as its know the txt messages were never recovered from either phone by police, or location data of calls or texts made that evening.

[sandra L]

On the afternoon of June 30th, the text exchange between Jodi and Luke (4.34pm to 4.38pm) was not conducted between Luke's phone and Jodi's sim - it was her mother's number that showed up in the phone logs.

There were suggestions that Jodi did, sometimes, put her sim in other people's phones after her own was broken, but not that afternoon.

[Bullseye]

On the afternoon of June 30th, the text exchange between Jodi and Luke (4.34pm to 4.38pm) was not conducted between Luke's phone and Jodi's sim - it was her mother's number that showed up in the phone logs.

There were suggestions that Jodi did, sometimes, put her sim in other people's phones after her own was broken, but not that afternoon.

That explains why Jodi’s text were deleted if it was her mums phone and number.

[nugnug]

On the afternoon of June 30th, the text exchange between Jodi and Luke (4.34pm to 4.38pm) was not conducted between Luke's phone and Jodi's sim - it was her mother's number that showed up in the phone logs.

There were suggestions that Jodi did, sometimes, put her sim in other people's phones after her own was broken, but not that afternoon.

so anytext that was deleted should of shown up on jodis mums phone.

so why the hell would he delte texts knowing full well jodis mum would still have them.

simple logic says somone else deleted them.

[nugnug]

That isn't simple logic at all.

refute it then.

[nugnug]

You're really saying the simple logical explanation for Luke's texts being deleted is that it must have been the police? You're a fkn weapon.

thats not a refution its just insult.

seems you cant refute my point.

why would lue delted incriminating texts knowing full well jodis mum would still have them

why would jodis mum not go t the police and say she had them.

come on whats the nser to that.

[Caroline]

thats not a refution its just insult.

seems you cant refute my point.

why would lue delted incriminating texts knowing full well jodis mum would still have them

why would jodis mum not go t the police and say she had them.

come on whats the nser to that.

But Jodie's mum didn't have them, they were deleted from her phone too.

Was this phone found on Jodie's body?

[Caroline]

well its very simple who would he be texting jodi on her mums phone if so jodis mum would have the texts wouldent she and i think she might mention it.

his friends well i dont think they would have kept uite would they his own mum well they looked at her phone as well and they could ceranly trace anytexts between him nd his mums phone.

If she was using her own sim, then it wouldn't matter who's phone she used.