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Offline Steve_uk

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Re: Jeremy's Character
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2016, 07:15:PM »
I think he pitied her, whilst viewing her as a drain on his inheritance. He only ever grieved for Brambles..

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« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2016, 07:28:PM »
I think he pitied her, whilst viewing her as a drain on his inheritance. He only ever grieved for Brambles..

Hm? I don't feel there was much in the way of compassion for her, Steve.

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Re: Jeremy's Character
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2016, 07:39:PM »
Hm? I don't feel there was much in the way of compassion for her, Steve.
Jane you're right. There can't be empathy with another human being to have executed that plan.

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Re: Jeremy's Character
« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2016, 07:55:PM »
Well said Steve, I agree.

Maggie

I have always thought Lookout is passionate about her support for Jeremy Bamber and she firmly believes he is innocent as did I last year and even now I sometimes doubt my guilty views as so much of this case is how one perceives things.

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Re: Jeremy's Character
« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2016, 07:56:PM »
It's quite irrelevant what others say of him when he told police, of Sheila "I don't like her and she doesn't like me".





Let's too,not forget that Sheila said that " all people are bad and should be killed ". Three people,including SJ  knew of this,but those in court didn't !

 

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« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2016, 08:43:PM »




Let's too,not forget that Sheila said that " all people are bad and should be killed ". Three people,including SJ  knew of this,but those in court didn't !

Which 3 are you saying heard her say it?

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Re: Jeremy's Character
« Reply #36 on: March 28, 2016, 08:49:PM »
Which 3 are you saying heard her say it?






BW.AE and SJ. One told the other. I thought you knew this,unless your memory's going.

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« Reply #37 on: March 28, 2016, 09:12:PM »





BW.AE and SJ. One told the other. I thought you knew this,unless your memory's going.

So only one person ACTUALLY heard her say it? How reliable would you say this witness was? I believe it was BW, wasn't it?

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Re: Jeremy's Character
« Reply #38 on: March 28, 2016, 09:14:PM »
So only one person ACTUALLY heard her say it? How reliable would you say this witness was? I believe it was BW, wasn't it?





You mean like RWB hearing Jeremy saying he could kill his parents ? Reliable ? After the wet-suit on the bike debacle ?

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« Reply #39 on: March 28, 2016, 09:22:PM »
I don't believe that Jeremy said that remark to Robert Boutflour. Sheila did reportedly say "All people are bad and should be killed" round the kitchen table in the presence of June and Barbara Wilson. No doubt Jeremy caught wind of it..

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« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2016, 09:37:PM »
I don't believe that Jeremy said that remark to Robert Boutflour. Sheila did reportedly say "All people are bad and should be killed" round the kitchen table in the presence of June and Barbara Wilson. No doubt Jeremy caught wind of it..





I think that would have come later,or it'd have been splashed everywhere about Jeremy repeating what his sister had said. He wouldn't have known about that until well after the trial as he admitted that he didn't know or realise that Sheila was so ill and that he'd been sorry he didn't visit her in hospital.

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Re: Jeremy's Character
« Reply #41 on: March 28, 2016, 09:42:PM »




I think that would have come later,or it'd have been splashed everywhere about Jeremy repeating what his sister had said. He wouldn't have known about that until well after the trial as he admitted that he didn't know or realise that Sheila was so ill and that he'd been sorry he didn't visit her in hospital.

He corroborated to the police what he alleged his father said about Sheila during his alleged phone call. He gave them a fairly comprehensive history of her mental state and hospital admissions, even hinting that she was going into hospital again. It hardly sounds as if he didn't know how ill she was.

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Re: Jeremy's Character
« Reply #42 on: March 28, 2016, 09:53:PM »
He corroborated to the police what he alleged his father said about Sheila during his alleged phone call. He gave them a fairly comprehensive history of her mental state and hospital admissions, even hinting that she was going into hospital again. It hardly sounds as if he didn't know how ill she was.
And yet Jeremy and his mother were barely on speaking terms those last few months, as June refused to write any more personal cheques in his favour. Maybe Barbara Wilson had told him or he could see from Sheila's gait as she waded unsteadily through the geese that she was highly medicated and unable to cope with everyday living.

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Re: Jeremy's Character
« Reply #43 on: March 28, 2016, 10:04:PM »
And yet Jeremy and his mother were barely on speaking terms those last few months, as June refused to write any more personal cheques in his favour. Maybe Barbara Wilson had told him or he could see from Sheila's gait as she waded unsteadily through the geese that she was highly medicated and unable to cope with everyday living.

This has been Adam's mantra, Steve, and not one I'm prepared to go with. How do we know he asked her for money in the last few months? If we don't know the answer to that, we can't know she refused, can we?If we listen to BW now, it appears she was terrified of him, so she'd hardly be likely to seek him out to talk about Sheila.

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Re: Jeremy's Character
« Reply #44 on: March 28, 2016, 10:20:PM »
This has been Adam's mantra, Steve, and not one I'm prepared to go with. How do we know he asked her for money in the last few months? If we don't know the answer to that, we can't know she refused, can we?If we listen to BW now, it appears she was terrified of him, so she'd hardly be likely to seek him out to talk about Sheila.
I think they were all busy leading parallel lives, but didn't Ann Eaton overhear Jeremy at one of the board meetings asking her aunt for more money? According to Roger Wilkes June was moping, scribing religious notes which she would leave around the house. I wonder if she herself was heading for another breakdown?