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Offline Adam

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Distance of Neville's first four shots:
« on: March 05, 2015, 10:51:AM »
I remember reading that all shots were fired from a foot or less away. But correct me if I'm wrong.

If this is correct, then why or why did Neville allow Sheila to aim a rifle at him from less than a foot away ? Surely he could have ducked or taken the rifle away. Or reacted sooner as a crazy Sheila approached him.

If he was already upstairs when Sheila started shooting, as suggested, then he knew he would be next when Sheila turned to him. But did nothing and allowed the rifle to get within a foot of him.

If he was running upstairs, unprotected after hearing shots when in the kitchen,  then why get so close to Sheila and then not attempt to smother her ? Instead allowing her to point a rifle at him, from a foot away and then fire the rifle four times at him,  before running straight back downstairs. 

If the shots were fired from several feet away, then Sheila accurately hit a moving Neville four times. Right by the bed he had been sleeping in. Although Sheila had 'limited' experience with guns.

Either way, it seems Neville foolishly put himself in a position where he would be vulnerable and of no use. Both before and after shots were fired.  As well as making himself an easy target for Sheila, who still had at least four bullets to shoot Neville with.

Does anyone know the predicted distance of Neville's first four shots.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2015, 11:34:AM by Adam »
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Re: Distance of Neville's first four shots:
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2015, 11:39:AM »
You didn't need to start a whole new thread to ask this question!  ::)
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Re: Distance of Neville's first four shots:
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2015, 11:42:AM »
I'll have to retreat in case I throw my laptop across the room.

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Re: Distance of Neville's first four shots:
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2015, 11:51:AM »
You didn't need to start a whole new thread to ask this question!  ::)

Please direct me to the thread where this question has been asked before.

And feel free to comment on this important question. Why did Neville allow Sheila to get so close to him, while pointing a rifle at him ?
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Re: Distance of Neville's first four shots:
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2015, 11:54:AM »
Please direct me to the thread where this question has been asked before.

And feel free to comment on this important question. Why did Neville allow Sheila to get so close to him, while pointing a rifle ?

You could have included it in one of your MANY threads about who was where doing what. I won't be commenting on your question  ::)
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Re: Distance of Neville's first four shots:
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2015, 12:08:PM »
You could have included it in one of your MANY threads about who was where doing what. I won't be commenting on your question  ::)

It's an important question.

Either Sheila expertly hit a moving Neville four times from a distance. Neville no doubt trying to avoid the bullets.

Or Neville allowed the rifle end to get within one foot of him prior to shots being fired. Making no effort to restrain Sheila.
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Re: Distance of Neville's first four shots:
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2015, 12:08:PM »
Does anyone know the predicted distance of Neville's first four shots.

If we are saying they were fired from the doorway of the master bedroom to Nevilles side of the bed, then what's that? Up to say 4 or 5 metres?  :-\

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Re: Distance of Neville's first four shots:
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2015, 12:48:PM »
If we are saying they were fired from the doorway of the master bedroom to Nevilles side of the bed, then what's that? Up to say 4 or 5 metres?  :-\

Accurate shooting from Sheila. Was it dark ? Could have been , after all June was sleeping. Neville must have not seen Sheila take aim, although he had either rushed upstairs, or was already upstairs trying to talk her down.

Was the door leading to the stairs next to Neville's or June's side of the bed.
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Re: Distance of Neville's first four shots:
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2015, 12:51:PM »
Was the door leading to the stairs next to Neville's or June's side of the bed.

Really? You don't know that?  :o

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Re: Distance of Neville's first four shots:
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2015, 12:54:PM »
Really? You don't know that?  :o

I don't. It is an important point.

If it is on June's side, then why would Neville return from downstairs,  see Sheila shooting June and then go to the other side of the bedroom to get shot ? Then run across the bedroom again after being shot four times to scurry downstairs.  He could have just jumped on Sheila pre or post gun shots.

It would also explain Jeremy shooting June first. She was the nearest body to the door upon his entrance.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2015, 01:05:PM by Adam »
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Re: Distance of Neville's first four shots:
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2015, 01:11:PM »
Does anyone know the predicted distance of Neville's first four shots.

Given the position of the spent shells the shooter was positioned just inside the doorway to the master bedroom. when he fired at both Nevill and June. Where Nevill actually was when initially shot is only known to the shooter but could be anywhere from a metre to several metres.
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Re: Distance of Neville's first four shots:
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2015, 01:23:PM »
Given the position of the spent shells the shooter was positioned just inside the doorway to the master bedroom. when he fired at both Nevill and June. Where Nevill actually was when initially shot is only known to the shooter but could be anywhere from a metre to several metres.




Why not give the " shooter " a name,John ?

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Re: Distance of Neville's first four shots:
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2015, 01:58:PM »



Why not give the " shooter " a name,John ?

OK, Jerry.

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Re: Distance of Neville's first four shots:
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2015, 02:19:PM »
OK, Jerry.




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Re: Distance of Neville's first four shots:
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2015, 09:51:AM »
Murderpedia says six of Neville's shots were from a few inches away. Two of the shots were from at least two feet away.

Guess that upstairs, Neville must have let Sheila get the rifle end a few inches from him, before she fired two shots. Sheila then retreated a few feet and fired two more shots. Neville making no attempt to restrain Sheila, although she had already shot other people.

Neville should have suspected Sheila was going to fire the rifle when Sheila pointed it at him and moved within inches of him. Silly man.
« Last Edit: March 07, 2015, 09:53:AM by Adam »
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