Why is it not fair to point out people have no valid basis for their claims?

[ngb1066]

Why? He isn't here to defend himself - why should you feel deceived? The man was writing a book to sell, if he told everyone what was in it - he wouldn't sell many copies. I don't know what is in the book and neither does anyone else. Perhaps 'waiting and seeing' is the best option and as he can't reply to any of these accusations it is completely unfair to discuss him.

I think you understand the point Grahame is making Caroline.

[Caroline]

Well, Caroline, MIGHT it be that she contacted him to CHEERFULLY tell him of your change of opinion. After all, she's made no bones as to the sort or regard she holds you in.

No doubt but she certainly isn't in any hurry to explain what she mean - I guess she hasn't thought of anything yet! 

[Caroline]

I think you understand the point Grahame is making Caroline.

I do, but I don't agree with it.

[Mr. Gee]

I can't speak for Jackie.  I assume that to be the case.  He then responded to her in a friendly way, urging her to keep up the fight (or words to that effect) and invited her to email him.  It was a very strange response from him in the circumstances.

And then he lied on the forum about receiving any message from her and that is when it all blew up and Jackie was the only one to be accused of lying. His lie was never mentioned.

[JackiePreece]

Well, Caroline, MIGHT it be that she contacted him to CHEERFULLY tell him of your change of opinion. After all, she's made no bones as to the sort or regard she holds you in.

Are you totally stupid April I have stated in black and white that I have made no contact with Jeremy by phone, email or carrier pigeon but I am very glad if someone has contacted him to tell him about people or wannabe authors he should not trust

[ngb1066]

I do, but I don't agree with it.

Really? 

[susan]

Mr Gee you are quite right I thought Jeremy was going to walk a free man in the near future but unfortunately I misread his comments to me on the forum and off I can only think in his defence things turned out differently for him as well as us.

[Jane]

I can't speak for Jackie.  I assume that to be the case.  He then responded to her in a friendly way, urging her to keep up the fight (or words to that effect) and invited her to email him.  It was a very strange response from him in the circumstances.

It was indeed a very strange response to a complete stranger who'd basically emailed him offering a  business proposition.

[Mr. Gee]

Why? He isn't here to defend himself - why should you feel deceived? The man was writing a book to sell, if he told everyone what was in it - he wouldn't sell many copies. I don't know what is in the book and neither does anyone else. Perhaps 'waiting and seeing' is the best option and as he can't reply to any of these accusations it is completely unfair to discuss him.

If I were you Caroline I should be asking the others who were misled into thinking he was a supporter of Jeremy. He ceratainy caused upset he not long ago that got him banned. If he were still here and had not been banned then he could answer for himself couldn't he?

[Caroline]

I can't speak for Jackie.  I assume that to be the case.  He then responded to her in a friendly way, urging her to keep up the fight (or words to that effect) and invited her to email him.  It was a very strange response from him in the circumstances.

I imagine he responded that way because he didn't want to tell her anything and telling her to 'email' him would be to stop her pestering him via PM. I don't think it sounds strange at all. She deliberately tried to suggest he contacted her first and then tried to suggest that an admin/mod (namely me) had hacked her account. This was of course all BS because she contacted MD first and gave him specific information that ONLY she could know. This whole thing was about what Jackie tried to do but people are sweeping that under the carpet in order to have a dig at MD - simply because he MAY now think Jeremy is guilty. I really don't understand people here. What she did was completely wrong and underhanded but she gets away with it - time and again.

[nugnug]

maybe we should contact him and ask him if the books still going to be published.

[Caroline]

If I were you Caroline I should be asking the others who were misled into thinking he was a supporter of Jeremy. He ceratainy caused upset he not long ago that got him banned. If he were still here and had not been banned then he could answer for himself couldn't he?

You weren't here then Grahame and it was Jackie who caused the upset.

[Patti]

Mr Gee you are quite right but Mason Doyle never actually told me he thought Jeremy was innocent I wrongly assumed and I was Jeremy innocent supporting him

Susan he told me that his book was more about the collected evidence and points of law he had gathered and not a book merely set to prove Jeremy's innocence. 

[Jane]

Are you totally stupid April I have stated in black and white that I have made no contact with Jeremy by phone, email or carrier pigeon but I am very glad if someone has contacted him to tell him about people or wannabe authors he should not trust

Would that be along the same lines as MD approaching you out of the blue to make use of your fount of information, whilst neglecting to say you'd contacted him first offering your firm's assistance in marketing his forthcoming book?

[nugnug]

Susan he told me that his book was more about the collected evidence and points of law he had gathered and not a book merely set to prove Jeremy's innocence. 

well in that case theres no reason for it not to be published.