Misconceptions About Jeremys Upbringing

[nugnug]

thats point i hadent thought of that.

maybe they just dident know the law.

[grahameb]

How do you know they knew that before the murders? Who knew? When? It's possible when they realised that Jeremy had killed for money - they spoke with Speakman in order to ensure she didn't meet the same fate.

Because of the very fact that RWB went to granny Speakman to get her to change it. If he didn't know, then he wouldn't have gone to her.

[grahameb]

Why bother changing the will at all if they all knew Jeremy would be convicted ? His share would automatically have been null and void anyway as soon as the cuffs were on him.

Not really lookout. Only if he was convicted. But they (the relatives) didn't know he would be convicted. Jeremy himself said that he never in a million years thought that he'd be convicted. That wasn't because he was boasting that they'd never convict him. He genuinely didn't think (because he was innocent) that they wqould never convict him because he believed in British Justice. But now of course he thinks the same as I do. British justice stinks as it is run by corrupt men and women. More so today than in the 80's.

[lookout]

Not really lookout. Only if he was convicted. But they (the relatives) didn't know he would be convicted. Jeremy himself said that he never in a million years thought that he'd be convicted. That wasn't because he was boasting that they'd never convict him. He genuinely didn't think (because he was innocent) that they wqould never convict him because he believed in British Justice. But now of course he thinks the same as I do. British justice stinks as it is run by corrupt men and women. More so today than in the 80's.

Hi Grahame.WHY the need to change the will at all. Was it aforethought on RWB's part,as I don't believe that " he didn't know ". In HIS own mind he did ( if you get my drift ) ? Something must have been in the wind . A case of forewarned being forearmed ? Meaning that the matter had obviously been discussed around the table on many a night as to who'd get what should either Bamber parent die.

I know what families are like having been involved in similar matters,where a family member died intestate. 

[grahameb]

Hi Grahame.WHY the need to change the will at all. Was it aforethought on RWB's part,as I don't believe that " he didn't know ". In HIS own mind he did ( if you get my drift ) ? Something must have been in the wind . A case of forewarned being forearmed ? Meaning that the matter had obviously been discussed around the table on many a night as to who'd get what should either Bamber parent die.

I know what families are like having been involved in similar matters,where a family member died intestate.

I suppose RWB's knowledge of the will was dependent upon who the executor was? But apparently he did know?

[Adam]

I am afraid all the witness evidence points to Jeremy hating his family.

Julie Mugford
Mary Mugford.
Ann Eaton
James Richards
Robert Boutflour
Dorothy Folks

They all testified how Jeremy hated and resented his family.

Barbara Wilson said Jeremy used to ride on Junes bike, taunting her at WHF. He also left rats in June's car.

Jeremy showed his utter contempt for his family. Robbing them shortly before he committed the massacre.

On the massacre night he was calling Sheila all kinds of names to the police. Years later he admitted he did not understand her illness.

Jeremy never forgave June for sending him to boarding school. They had not spoken for years. He slated her to the police and admitted in court they did not get along.

Jeremy had a blazing row with Neville just before the massacre. AE said she was surprised it did not get physical.

[lookout]

Christ,just what we need---------------another parrot !! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Adam]

Decades after conviction Jeremy said he was a mummies boy. Running around WHF. This must have been pre boarding school. He never forgave June for sending him to boarding school.

After persuading June & Neville to finance long jaunts abroad, resentment set in when Sheila & the twins continued to be fully subsidised.

[susan]

Hello Adam  wow you are back thought you had been lost at sea   Now I am not disagreeing with one word in your post I am not qualified to do so have you a source please

[grahameb]

I am afraid all the witness evidence points to Jeremy hating his family.

Julie Mugford
Mary Mugford.
Ann Eaton
James Richards
Robert Boutflour
Dorothy Folks

They all testified how Jeremy hated and resented his family.

Barbara Wilson said Jeremy used to ride on Junes bike, taunting her at WHF. He also left rats in June's car.

Jeremy showed his utter contempt for his family. Robbing them shortly before he committed the massacre.

On the massacre night he was calling Sheila all kinds of names to the police. Years later he admitted he did not understand her illness.

Jeremy never forgave June for sending him to boarding school. They had not spoken for years. He slated her to the police and admitted in court they did not get along.

Jeremy had a blazing row with Neville just before the massacre. AE said she was surprised it did not get physical.

I rather think you have posted in the wrong thread Adam?

[grahameb]

Decades after conviction Jeremy said he was a mummies boy. Running around WHF. This must have been pre boarding school. He never forgave June for sending him to boarding school.

After persuading June & Neville to finance long jaunts abroad, resentment set in when Sheila & the twins continued to be fully subsidised.

And where may I ask is your evidence for that? Don't tell me don't tell me...Wilkes, right?

[Adam]

No evidence. But would a 7 -18 year old boy still be running around WHF ?

Anyway how can Jeremy run around WHF if he is at boarding school ?

[Adam]

And where may I ask is your evidence for that? Don't tell me don't tell me...Wilkes, right?

Sorry. Mis read.

Mary Mugford testified this. I have already created a thread. Would you like me to find it ?

[grahameb]

No evidence. But would a 7 -18 year old boy still be running around WHF ?

Anyway how can Jeremy run around WHF if he is at boarding school ?

Erm?.....During holidays.

[grahameb]

Sorry. Mis read.

Mary Mugford testified this. I have already created a thread. Would you like me to find it ?

NO NO Please don't. I'm fine, really I am.