Misconceptions About Jeremys Upbringing

[JackiePreece]

Taken from David Shaws manuscript

Anji Greaves had stood by Jeremy during his twelve months in custody awaiting trial. On remand Jeremy had written over 100 letters to her. She’d said at the time: ‘I can’t believe that someone who blushed like a schoolboy and longed to be hugged all the time could possibly have murdered his family.’ During the latter stages of the trial she had organized a party for his release from court and a subsequent holiday. With two girlfriends she had decorated the room with banners. One of them was fifteen foot long and said: ‘Faith, love, truth, freedom. Welcome home, Jeremy.’ Considering the recent turn of events, she told a reporter: ‘I don’t know if I can bring myself to go on visiting now. It could be a life sentence for both of us.’

There are a lot of misconceptions about Jeremys  strict upbringing by his parents and I believe this rumour has been circulated to give further reasons for him to carry out the murders

From my own personal experience and  phone calls with Jeremy he had been bought up strictly but with a lot of love. The Jeremy described above by an ex girlfriend was definitely shown love while growing up .  Jeremy can be very open about his feelings for many different people from his past.

[scipio_usmc]

Taken from David Shaws manuscript

Anji Greaves had stood by Jeremy during his twelve months in custody awaiting trial. On remand Jeremy had written over 100 letters to her. She’d said at the time: ‘I can’t believe that someone who blushed like a schoolboy and longed to be hugged all the time could possibly have murdered his family.’ During the latter stages of the trial she had organized a party for his release from court and a subsequent holiday. With two girlfriends she had decorated the room with banners. One of them was fifteen foot long and said: ‘Faith, love, truth, freedom. Welcome home, Jeremy.’ Considering the recent turn of events, she told a reporter: ‘I don’t know if I can bring myself to go on visiting now. It could be a life sentence for both of us.’

There are a lot of misconceptions about Jeremys  strict upbringing by his parents and I believe this rumour has been circulated to give further reasons for him to carry out the murders

From my own personal experience and  phone calls with Jeremy he had been bought up strictly but with a lot of love. The Jeremy described above by an ex girlfriend was definitely shown love while growing up .  Jeremy can be very open about his feelings for many different people from his past.

Maybe he longed to be hugged because he felt neglected and was affection starved.

In any event it is silly to try mentioning anything about his childhood to try to suggest he can't have done it.

You seem to believe he is innocent for very silly reaosns and in order to believe it you ignore and refuse to discuss the pertinent evidence and facts instead harming on red herrings.

[JackiePreece]

You don't know Jeremy and have never had any contact him so maybe you are the wrong person to make a judgement like that

But the notion that Jeremy didn't like life on the farm is ridiculous when it is well known he didn't like boarding school and was happier at home

[nugnug]

well are we supposed to belive he dident like farming but then killed to get hold of a farm.

[lookout]

Jeremy still chose farming when he was in NewZealand/Australia,in preference to bar work,considering he was supposed to have been the " playboy " type who went for the night life.

[nugnug]

well new zealands hardley a place to be playboy.

[grahameb]

Maybe he longed to be hugged because he felt neglected and was affection starved.

In any event it is silly to try mentioning anything about his childhood to try to suggest he can't have done it.

You seem to believe he is innocent for very silly reaosns and in order to believe it you ignore and refuse to discuss the pertinent evidence and facts instead harming on red herrings.

Why not write to him scipio? He will reply I promise.

[scipio_usmc]

Why not write to him scipio? He will reply I promise.

Write to him for what purpose?  Aside from the fact he would lie as opposed to honestly answer any questions I might have about the murders I don't have any questions to ask.

The relevant questions were already asked by police and at trial.

The evidence that proves him guilty can't be refuted by him.  Other evidence is required for instance clothing Sheila wore that had blood from the victims and GSR or testimony of who planted evidence and how.  That is required to try to establish his innocence. 

I could write to annoy him asking if 28 years has been enough time for him to make up an excuse to explain away the 30 bullets remaining in the kitchen but such would serve little value.  Just doing things to annoy people is childish and pointless when I do things it is for a reason not childishness.

   

[nugnug]

this is a man who so hated farming he moved to country that only has one industry and that is farming.

[scipio_usmc]

this is a man who so hated farming he moved to country that only has one industry and that is farming.

He wanted his family to provide a house, car and high pay and the only way they woudl do so is if he worked on the farm. Killing them was a way to get the money without having to work on the farm anymore.   This issues is not a wise one to broach if you want to try to pretend Jeremy had no motive.

[grahameb]

Write to him for what purpose?  Aside from the fact he would lie as opposed to honestly answer any questions I might have about the murders I don't have any questions to ask.

The relevant questions were already asked by police and at trial.

The evidence that proves him guilty can't be refuted by him.  Other evidence is required for instance clothing Sheila wore that had blood from the victims and GSR or testimony of who planted evidence and how.  That is required to try to establish his innocence. 

I could write to annoy him asking if 28 years has been enough time for him to make up an excuse to explain away the 30 bullets remaining in the kitchen but such would serve little value.  Just doing things to annoy people is childish and pointless when I do things it is for a reason not childishness.

 

For the same purpose that a psychiatrist would contact him. In order to make a personal assessment of someone that you havent even met and yet take it upon yourself to judge by the words that others have said rather than coming to a conclusion upon what you yourself might discober first hand.

[grahameb]

He wanted his family to provide a house, car and high pay and the only way they woudl do so is if he worked on the farm. Killing them was a way to get the money without having to work on the farm anymore.   This issues is not a wise one to broach if you want to try to pretend Jeremy had no motive.

My friend met him once in a pub where he was with the Essex Young Farmers. He got talking with him and found out that he knew a great deal about tractors. Hardly someone who didn't like farming.

[nugnug]

He wanted his family to provide a house, car and high pay and the only way they woudl do so is if he worked on the farm. Killing them was a way to get the money without having to work on the farm anymore.   This issues is not a wise one to broach if you want to try to pretend Jeremy had no motive.

he allready had a house and a car and was set to inherit plenty of cash from his grandmother so yes he did have no real motive.

[grahameb]

he allready had a house and a car and was set to inherit plenty of cash from his grandmother so yes he did have no real motive.

That is true. It was after the killings that RWB went over to Grandma to get her to change her will to exclude Jeremy. Before these terrible events of the 7th of August 1985, (which I am sure must be etched into the memories of all the surviving family, not without trauma to all involved) Granny Speakman was very ill and not expected to live that long, apparently was going to leave Jeremy half her estate, which was a considerable amount so they say? So what motive did he have?

[lookout]

The other half--------------if you're referring to RWB,Grahame.