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Offline Bambergate

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #240 on: April 29, 2014, 08:33:PM »
My opinion is that if anyone had access to information/witnesses/documents or anything that PROVED 100% JB was innocent, they would come forward and they would do it right away.

They wouldn't sit on a forum, teasing.
is that not what the phone log shows Mat ?

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #241 on: April 29, 2014, 08:58:PM »
i would of though the official team would of already mentioned it if it was true.

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« Reply #242 on: April 29, 2014, 09:04:PM »
  I hadn't known about the 1996 episode,,only that the guy who stabbed Jeremy apparently went around stabbing other inmates as well,,a prize lunatic.
However,,I took it that when the guy jumped Jeremy from behind,,that Jeremy had used self-defence.

Not one link is the same as another at all. Although both reports stated the same amount of stitches,,one was just a superficial wound,,while the other was centimeters away from the jugular.

I think it's best not to read too much into most of the links as they're all based on supposition,being that none of the authors were present when the tragedy happened.
Not a lot was  made of Bambers violent streak of how himself slashed another prisoner with a broken bottle bear in mind he had to smash the bottle first which makes it more pre meditated, much was made of the attack on bamber later in 2004, his lawyers made sure bamber attacking an inmate was kept very low key and forgotten its a case of  lets not show bamber can be violent, full Sutton was happy to go along because they don't like bad publicity.

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #243 on: April 29, 2014, 09:10:PM »
Not a lot was  made of Bambers violent streak of how himself slashed another prisoner with a broken bottle bear in mind he had to smash the bottle first which makes it more pre meditated, much was made of the attack on bamber later in 2004, his lawyers made sure bamber attacking an inmate was kept very low key and forgotten its a case of  lets not show bamber can be violent, full Sutton was happy to go along because they don't like bad publicity.



So in 30 years, incarcerated for something he maintains he is innocent of, incidents of Jeremy's violence amount to smearing excrement on walls on one occasion and bottling a fellow inmate on another.

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #244 on: April 29, 2014, 09:22:PM »
Not a lot was  made of Bambers violent streak of how himself slashed another prisoner with a broken bottle bear in mind he had to smash the bottle first which makes it more pre meditated, much was made of the attack on bamber later in 2004, his lawyers made sure bamber attacking an inmate was kept very low key and forgotten its a case of  lets not show bamber can be violent, full Sutton was happy to go along because they don't like bad publicity.






Hi Ralf,,I do believe that JB was going to sue the prison for the injury that he'd received,but I'm not sure how that panned out.
You can blame a lot of what JB did on pent-up emotions,,because if that had been me couped up like a battery hen,,I'd have gone mad altogether and probably ended up in Broadmoor.
Bad enough being there when you've done something,,,,,,,,but when you haven't,,it's even worse.

Not a pleasant attack by any means,,,,but given the amount of years he's been there,I suppose it's nothing compared to what other prisoners have got up to. Take the guy who was glassed by JB,,,an absolute menace and by all accounts a nutcase because he was going around randomly knifing other inmates with the cobbled-up weapon he was using.

It was kept low key,,but for different reasons than reported probably.There's never smoke without fire,,,and I'm sure that if JB had kept up his vicious attacks,,,we'd certainly have kept hearing via the media.

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #245 on: April 29, 2014, 09:24:PM »
it depends on the cercumstances who was the other prisoner.

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #246 on: April 29, 2014, 09:27:PM »


So in 30 years, incarcerated for something he maintains he is innocent of, incidents of Jeremy's violence amount to smearing excrement on walls on one occasion and bottling a fellow inmate on another.
Sorry April what I am stating we don't get to know what happens inside.

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #247 on: April 29, 2014, 09:28:PM »
it depends on the cercumstances who was the other prisoner.

That´s right. We don´t know the circumstances, so I don´t think we should jump to conclusion, one way or the other.

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #248 on: April 29, 2014, 09:29:PM »





Hi Ralf,,I do believe that JB was going to sue the prison for the injury that he'd received,but I'm not sure how that panned out.
You can blame a lot of what JB did on pent-up emotions,,because if that had been me couped up like a battery hen,,I'd have gone mad altogether and probably ended up in Broadmoor.
Bad enough being there when you've done something,,,,,,,,but when you haven't,,it's even worse.

Not a pleasant attack by any means,,,,but given the amount of years he's been there,I suppose it's nothing compared to what other prisoners have got up to. Take the guy who was glassed by JB,,,an absolute menace and by all accounts a nutcase because he was going around randomly knifing other inmates with the cobbled-up weapon he was using.

It was kept low key,,but for different reasons than reported probably.There's never smoke without fire,,,and I'm sure that if JB had kept up his vicious attacks,,,we'd certainly have kept hearing via the media.
Good post Lookout and point taken.

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #249 on: April 29, 2014, 09:30:PM »
Sorry April what I am stating we don't get to know what happens inside.



No Ralf, we don't..................and even if we did I VERY much doubt we'd get to know the reasons.

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #250 on: April 29, 2014, 09:30:PM »
I think there were 7 guys who were injured by the creep who knifed JB.

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #251 on: April 29, 2014, 09:35:PM »


No Ralf, we don't..................and even if we did I VERY much doubt we'd get to know the reasons.
Ryan parry gives a good account of what its like in full Sutton, it terrifies me have a read April.

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #252 on: April 29, 2014, 09:37:PM »
Ryan parry gives a good account of what its like in full Sutton, it terrifies me have a read April.




Could you please point me in the right direction, Ralf :D

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #253 on: April 29, 2014, 09:41:PM »
He hasn't provided on single bit of evidence, this is simply relying on blind faith. As I said before, this isn't a religion and I for one am not a disciple and require some kind of proof before I will take on-board such massive claims.

Perhaps this forum is not the correct place to show the evidence. As we are all well aware all evidence has to go through the correct procedure before it can be even considered.

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #254 on: April 29, 2014, 09:47:PM »



Could you please point me in the right direction, Ralf :D
Mirror man Ryan Parry spends 24 hours with serial killers and .Try that on google April