Jeremy's Alibi...

[maggie]

I know you can't always go by looks. But he does look as if he is lying? But then perhaps that's just the way I see him?

No Grahame, it's not just you, he looks so uncomfortable. He strokes his chin in a nonchalent way but he's not at all convincing.  First time I saw him, before I knew anything much about the case, I thought he was lying.

[maggie]

The hitman story was investigated and found to be false. I just wonder why people believe JM after discovering so may inconsistencies in her story?

I suppose it's because they want to Grahame, because they 'know' Jeremy is guilty.

[mertol22]

For me the point he is lying is when he trandsends into now not thinking it was someone but earlier it was looking like someone was there, its clear how easily he remembers being there he did not deny that , but i would like to know if it was jeremy alone or they both saw at the same time.

[Patti]

Jeremy said that when Bewes saw the "trick of light"  he rushed back to the patrol car pissing his pants and called for back-up. He aparently became the laughing stock of the other officers. But of course that was only Jeremy's account? How is it that when I see Bewes calmly telling his story of when he discussed this with other officers and they looked again the "decided" that it was a trick of the light that I somehow don't believe him?

Hi grahame. I think Bewes was confused, he doesn't know which window it was. Although Jeremy states it was the main bedroom window...But is various documentaries Bews describes the box room between the main bedroom and the twins room....then he describes it as being Sheila's room...then the main bedroom....Ha! wonder if he knew what he had for lunch today....

Didn't JB say they got behind a hedge...hahahah you don't do that if all you saw was a trick of light...or call for back up....

[Patti]

Not necessarily;it could have been the hitman hired by Jeremy.In any case the figure was reported by Jeremy first, who whereupon ducked down dramatically on Pages Lane..then there was a reported sighting of a male figure so it couldn't have been Sheila.

Hi Steve, it was PC Mayall that sighted movement in the window. However, I have seen a few documentaries that is was Jeremy....It's like everything else, it is all misleading...

[grahameb]

Hi grahame. I think Bewes was confused, he doesn't know which window it was. Although Jeremy states it was the main bedroom window...But is various documentaries Bews describes the box room between the main bedroom and the twins room....then he describes it as being Sheila's room...then the main bedroom....Ha! wonder if he knew what he had for lunch today....

Didn't JB say they got behind a hedge...hahahah you don't do that if all you saw was a trick of light...or call for back up....

Well I am more inclined to believe Jeremy than Bewes. Since it was Jeremy who lived there and knew what rooms were what.

[Patti]

That's a pretty good description Mertol

Hi Maggie, Isn't he perfect out Mertol...It the way he tells em! 

[maggie]

Hi Maggie, Isn't he perfect out Mertol...It the way he tells em! 

Mmmmm Patti, I was thinking he reminds me of the great J.R. Ewing...n'est pas?

[Patti]

Well I am more inclined to believe Jeremy than Bewes. Since it was Jeremy who lived there and knew what rooms were what.

So am I Grahame...but I do wish it was the box room...for that is where Jeapes saw the rifle at the window, before the rain team went in...Hope you are OK.... :D :D :D

[Steve_uk]

The hitman story was investigated and found to be false. I just wonder why people believe JM after discovering so may inconsistencies in her story?

Julie Mugford was relating what Jeremy had told her about hiring Matthew McDonald,whether she believed this story or not. In Julie's statement there are other times when she is with Jeremy when she talks about the glove coming off in the fight(could this have been the pair of marigold gloves whose packaging was found in a nearby field),she mentions the plan the put Julie's pills in the parents' drinks,the  plans Jeremy had to burn down the farm which was rejected because the house was underinsured,then the plan that Jeremy had to shoot them all.

The Defence needs to rebut these statements by Jeremy recalling just what social talk did occur on the occasions they were together,as well as the conversations they had in the weeks after the murders. Those who believe Julie is recounting a tissue of lies need to explain why Jeremy telephoned Julie three times in total over the space of a few hours shortly before and after the murders and why during Police interrogation he was reticent to the point of taciturn,when an innocent man would be only too willing to volunteer the slightest snippet of information in order to prove his innocence.

[Patti]

Mmmmm Patti, I was thinking he reminds me of the great J.R. Ewing...n'est pas?

Lol...........Yeah, he keeps calling me Sue Ellen....hahahahah 

[maggie]

Lol...........Yeah, he keeps calling me Sue Ellen....hahahahah 

If I remember rightly, old Sue Ellen had a liking for the chardonnay....it'll all end in tears hahaha!

[Patti]

Julie Mugford was relating what Jeremy had told her about hiring Matthew McDonald,whether she believed this story or not. In Julie's statement there are other times when she is with Jeremy when she talks about the glove coming off in the fight(could this have been the pair of marigold gloves whose packaging was found in a nearby field),she mentions the plan the put Julie's pills in the parents' drinks,the  plans Jeremy had to burn down the farm which was rejected because the house was underinsured,then the plan that Jeremy had to shoot them all.

The Defence needs to rebut these statements by Jeremy recalling just what social talk did occur on the occasions they were together,as well as the conversations they had in the weeks after the murders. Those who believe Julie is recounting a tissue of lies need to explain why Jeremy telephoned Julie three times in total over the space of a few hours shortly before and after the murders and why during Police interrogation he was reticent to the point of taciturn,when an innocent man would be only too willing to volunteer the slightest snippet of information in order to prove his innocence.

I think she did believe Steve, but when it was found that McDonald had a hair tight alibi, she altered her statement. She said that she thought it couldn't be true...She also told the NOTW that he never admitted to her that he had killed his family. She confused me most of the time...She also mirrors what the family said in her statements too....Some wont have it that she had converse with them, but I think she did....IMHO....

[Patti]

If I remember rightly, old Sue Ellen had a liking for the chardonnay....it'll all end in tears hahaha!

Hahahaha She did take to drink....but she loved him....awwwwww 

[mertol22]

Hahahaha She did take to drink....but she loved him....awwwwww 

speaking of which its 2 french bottles of bier and dallas, texans are straight talking gal likewise in North Lincolnshire, will be back later.