Guilty?

[susan]

lookout you will be going to heaven along with me

[mertol22]

Given Jeremy has had since 1986 to think again where he stands in his plea of innocence and this has not happened i truly believe this is strong evidence in itself to actually believe jeremy is innocent many a man would have given up by now .

[mertol22]

Hi lookout nice to know we have some honest people around when ever I am given too much change I give it back trying to buy my way to heaven

Found £5 in street week last another £5 this monday both on pavement nr car just parked at one time i would have handed in not now both well spent at Mc Donalds.

[lookout]

Of course,Mertol,,you're right. It's known that prisoners plead innocence for so long,,then give up,as most are guilty anyway,,but it would appear that in Jeremy's case,,because he's pleaded innocence for so many years now,and his side of events hasn't altered by a single word,,that he should be believed.
The most tragic thing that could happen would be for him to die in prison,,then receive a posthumous pardon. How anyone could,or would live,,knowing that, after the event,  is unimaginable. It would be as bad as sending someone to the gallows. But someone out there knows he's innocent.

[Patti]

Dearie me,,,I'll tell you how gormless I've just been.
 At the ATM,I was trying to put my card in the machine,forcing the card which didn't want to budge,until a young man came speeding towards it and said he'd not collected his money.!
 I was that busy fighting the machine that I didn't even notice any money.
A fine robber I'd make.
 That's what becomes of being mechanically minded into wondering what had gone wrong with the ATM instead.
I was just glad that it was me next and not someone else with a sharper eye,and quicker on foot.
I'm not money orientated you see,,I haven't made it my" God ".

Hi lookout, I would have scarpered......hahahahahaha

No I would have taken it into the bank....Your a honest sort, I can vouch for that...

[mertol22]

Of course,Mertol,,you're right. It's known that prisoners plead innocence for so long,,then give up,as most are guilty anyway,,but it would appear that in Jeremy's case,,because he's pleaded innocence for so many years now,and his side of events hasn't altered by a single word,,that he should be believed.
The most tragic thing that could happen would be for him to die in prison,,then receive a posthumous pardon. How anyone could,or would live,,knowing that, after the event,  is unimaginable. It would be as bad as sending someone to the gallows. But someone out there knows he's innocent.

If things stay as they are that is exactly the destiny of jeremy.

[lookout]

Hi Patti,,,believe it or not,it frightened me afterwards,because really,you tend not to look downwards until you've put your pin,etc into it,,except in my case,I was only interested in wondering what was wrong,hahaha. I actually did wonder why the chap was running so fast towards me though,,and felt quite relieved that I hadn't been able to put my pin in,,,little did I know he was running to rescue his money,and not to rob me.

[lookout]

If things stay as they are that is exactly the destiny of jeremy.

I just hope to God that won't be the end result,Mertol. I sincerely hope not.

[guest154]

Of course,Mertol,,you're right. It's known that prisoners plead innocence for so long,,then give up,as most are guilty anyway,,but it would appear that in Jeremy's case,,because he's pleaded innocence for so many years now,and his side of events hasn't altered by a single word,,that he should be believed.
The most tragic thing that could happen would be for him to die in prison,,then receive a posthumous pardon. How anyone could,or would live,,knowing that, after the event,  is unimaginable. It would be as bad as sending someone to the gallows. But someone out there knows he's innocent.

I disagree that they haven't altered a single word, of course they have!
It wasn't long ago that Jeremy tried to change the words his Dad had spoken to him on the phone the night he called him. Jeremy tried to claim that he'd never told the police what had been reported. Even though he himself has told the story of "Sheila gone beserk with the gun" many, many times.

[bloggs and son]

How about burglary?  :D

I think she did the cheque fraud thing to impress him. He was probably making himself out to be a bit more of a gangsta than he actually was.

Oh yeah? More like playing the victim. The devil made me do it officer.

[bloggs and son]

I could be wrong but I don't think that's her...

Well I only had your description of her to go by.

[mertol22]

I just hope to God that won't be the end result,Mertol. I sincerely hope not.

Sometimes looking at the real picture places things in perspective and  the thought of jeremy being released has to come into the picture also, i think jeremy will remain strong for the moment like this forum but everyone has a limit.

[bloggs and son]

Dearie me,,,I'll tell you how gormless I've just been.
 At the ATM,I was trying to put my card in the machine,forcing the card which didn't want to budge,until a young man came speeding towards it and said he'd not collected his money.!
 I was that busy fighting the machine that I didn't even notice any money.
A fine robber I'd make.
 That's what becomes of being mechanically minded into wondering what had gone wrong with the ATM instead.
I was just glad that it was me next and not someone else with a sharper eye,and quicker on foot.
I'm not money orientated you see,,I haven't made it my" God ".

I got news for you. He's just robbed you.

[mertol22]

Lookout was making a general view that jeremy maintains innocence to this day.

[Jane]

But what they knew (or believed) was that Sheila had shot everyone, why would they change tack at the whim of the relatives, and at risk of their careers?

Bridget, hi. In answer to your question from yesterday:

I think that when the police first entered WHF they activated a chain of events that took on life of its'own. Sheila, still just alive, according to Mike,was moved from where she was initially seen, on the kitchen floor, to the bedroom. This information was given to AE by DC Clarke before he left, with Jeremy, to take his witness statement. At some point AE is allowed in to do some clearing up!!!! and comes away with items which under other circumstances may, or may not have been used as evidence, but as this was obviously a clear cut case of murders followed by suicide it hardly mattered if their performance was sloppy and unprofessional because there was nobody else there. By the time they moved Sheila from bed to her first position on the floor, for reasons best known to themselves, I imagine that any possibility of remaining life had been put to rest..........and if all this is sounding like major cock up, I believe that's exactly what it was. But who was going to know and who was going to tell?

It all changed when the family started to drip poison about Jeremy. There's no evidence to say he did anything but then, other than an armoury of guns, there's little to say he didn't, either. You asked why they would put their careers at risk. I'm suggesting that they already HAD and they were looking round for damage limitation and any means possible to avoid revealing what had really taken place in that farmhouse. Charging Jeremy and maybe withholding anything which could cause doubt about his guilt was their way out.