Due to meet informant in Glasgow tomorrow

[scipio_usmc]

What on earth are you assuming I said to warrant such a lecture? ALL I said was that psychiatry and psychology have moved on since the time of the trial so it would be surprising if he hadn't revised his thinking. I was neither hinting nor suggesting a new trial and I don't believe Ferguson said anything new which could point in that direction, either.

The point is they are barking up the wrong tree entirely.  Anytime they say that mental health records or the like could free him it amounts to them talking out of their butts.

 

[Jane]

The point is they are barking up the wrong tree entirely.  Anytime they say that mental health records or the like could free him it amounts to them talking out of their butts.

 

I never said they weren't. My interest, as you must by now, be aware, is mental health and the advancement of the care and treatment of those who are mentally ill. Without such advancements we'd still be keeping patients in chains and leaving them in ice cold baths.

[Steve_uk]

Psychological assessments mean little, they can' impact the evidence which convicted Jeremy.  The main evidence that convicted Jeremy is evidence that he was planning to frame her, a lack of physical evidence that would have been present on her body had she killed the others and evidence proving she can't have killed herself someone else murdered her.  The only way to get a new trial is to find something that undermines this. 

Let's pretend they found evidence she threatened to kill her mother.  Would such establish she could have killed the others without getting evidence on herself or could have killed herself?  No!  So it's not able to warrant a new trial. It is not an accident that they keep trying to find a way to undermine the moderator evidence and Julie's testimony. This is the evidence hey have to undermine in order to get a new trial. Concentrating on other aspects is not going to accomplish a thing.

I look at it this way:David Bain was convicted of murdering five members of his family just as Jeremy Bamber was. He spent 13 years in jail before the Establishment got sick of the campaign led principally by Joe Karam. So they came up with the ridiculous hearsay evidence story of Dean Cottle. David Bain received a retrial and was released. Just imagine how much more the evidence of a Harley Street doctor would count for testifying that he believed Sheila was capable of murdering her children than the evidence of a nonentity like Cottle,especially when you consider that two jurors were already not convinced at Bamber's original trial of his guilt.

Of course you take Dean Cottle's evidence coming from Laniet with a pinch of salt. http://davidbain.counterspin.co.nz/doubtful-proof-of-incest

[Caroline]

I look at it this way:David Bain was convicted of murdering five members of his family just as Jeremy Bamber was. He spent 13 years in jail before the Establishment got sick of the campaign led principally by Joe Karam. So they came up with the ridiculous hearsay evidence story of Dean Cottle. David Bain received a retrial and was released. Just imagine how much more the evidence of a Harley Street doctor would count for testifying that he believed Sheila was capable of murdering her children than the evidence of a nonentity like Cottle,especially when you consider that two jurors were already not convinced at Bamber's original trial of his guilt.

Of course you take Dean Cottle's evidence coming from Laniet with a pinch of salt. http://davidbain.counterspin.co.nz/doubtful-proof-of-incest

Unless Jeremy can find evidence to prove he's innocent, he won't get a retrial.