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andrea

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« Reply #1845 on: December 10, 2011, 12:29:PM »
sorry to go off topic, but how do i enable cookies, i cant read my emails.

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« Reply #1846 on: December 10, 2011, 12:40:PM »
In your browser part i think andrea you need to click enable

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« Reply #1847 on: December 10, 2011, 12:44:PM »
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« Reply #1848 on: December 10, 2011, 12:45:PM »
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Offline Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)

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« Reply #1849 on: December 10, 2011, 12:46:PM »
The picture of Sheila on the bed is real, Ewen Smith knows its real, and he is now a CCRC Commissioner. Ewen Smith was told by Dr Craig, that the contents of his statement which refers to Sheila's body being on the floor when he arrived at the scene, was a false statement, and that Sheila was not dead until after police went into the farmhouse. Ewen told me personally that although this information had been conveyed to him by Dr Craig, in the presence of Dr Craigs wife, Ewen told me that he did not think Dr Craig was well enough or strong enough to attend an appeal hearing and be subjected to cross examination, because he was really poorly, and Ewen said that Dr Craig was a lovely old gentlemen who did not deserve to be put through such an ordeal...

Apparently, Dr Craigs wife was present when Dr Craig told Ewen all about his evidence and the false statements he had made...

Now...

in so far as does the photograph of Sheila on the bed exist, yes it does, it was sent to Ewen by Essex police along with all the other previously undisclosed pictures which formed part of the senior investigating officers album that had been kept in ACC Peter Simpsons safe in his office at DHQ, and the police only let Ewen see these on the proviso that he did not copy any of them or show them to anybody else...

The photograph of Sheila on the bed was amongst this disclosed album, and I saw it when I visited Ewen's office in Birmingham. Sheila was on the bed, somebody had raised the hem of her nightdress to expose her crotch area, she was not wearing any shoes or slippers, there was no gun on the body, there was no body bag on the bed, there were no runs of blood from the corners of her mouth, she was on the bed before she was later photographed on the bedroom floor. There was no bible on her body or the bed, she was laid on her back, and there was no bloodied fingermarks on the front lower part of her nightdress...

Police moved her body from the bed to the floor, and then made up a story about finding her body there on the floor with the gun and bible in attendance...

If the missing negatives had not been cut from its strip (8 of them in sequence) one of the missing negatives would show Sheila's body on the bed as I have described, along with the other image I have recently been shown, which also showed Sheila on the bed with only one wound to her throat/neck...

Why have the police cut out this sequence of negatives?

Why did they create a senior investigating officers album which contained 581 pictures, yet only tell the defence team that there existed 223 photographs in a so called master copy album? Why hide the existence of 358 pictures from the defence?

Worse still...

Why did PC Bird (SOC) only produce a schedule showing which of the (223) master copy album photographs, related to the (50) court album photographs? Why was no schedule produced to show all 581 pictures taken in sequence, against the order of 223 pictures taken from it in producing the so called master copy album, as well as the (50)court album?

Answer...

The photographs of Sheila on the bed, were taken at a time when she was still alive on the bed, she could not have been dead, hence she only had one shot to her neck by that stage. Sheila may have been assumed to be dead, but she was not...

Dr Craig made an error in pronouncing her as being dead at the scene without examining her to check for vital signs of life...

Ambulance crews in attendance at the scene, were not called forward into the farmhouse to check the bodies for signs of life, but were sent away from the scene, despite Sheila still being alive on the bed in the bedroom with her only having been shot once by that stage...

Police stage managed Sheila' body on the floor in a position parallel with the edge of the bed, and they repositioned the rifle on her body and re-arranged her hands upon and around the gun, and placed the bible close by - not Jeremy, or any would be as yet unidentified killer...

Mike thank you. This is the clearest and most concise post you have ever put on this site. This is all people need to know and consider. It does not prove that Jeremy was not involved in the deaths of his family but it does prove that his conviction on the evidence presented at court was wrong, unsafe and unlawful. Therefore on that basis his appeal should be allowed. Why are Jeremy's defence team not calling you as a witness?

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« Reply #1850 on: December 10, 2011, 12:52:PM »
Not sure where to ask this question, so I will ask it here.

Is Farhad Emami, the chap called Freddie who has been mentioned on this forum?

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« Reply #1851 on: December 10, 2011, 12:53:PM »
Photograph posted in reply 1838, shows a view of where Sheila was on the bed, I cannot be any clearer than that. There was no gun on the bed, or on her body, and no bible on the bed, also June Bambers body was not on the bed, although in some reports in newspapers both bodies were found on the bed...

I have been told by my informant that police at the scene were guilty of taking indecent images of the three adult victims, in other words, being very very disrespectful to them all...

Some of the indecent images taken of Sheila are the ones which have disappeared from radar...

I wished I had never seen the  photographs I saw at Ewens office, its a living nightmare when people say that I never saw such images, I wished I had not seen them, I really do, but at the same time people can accuse me of anything, what really matters is that these convictions for these murders get overturned sharpishly...
« Last Edit: December 10, 2011, 12:54:PM by mike tesko »
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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« Reply #1852 on: December 10, 2011, 12:53:PM »
Not sure where to ask this question, so I will ask it here.

Is Farhad Emami, the chap called Freddie who has been mentioned on this forum?

Yes...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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« Reply #1853 on: December 10, 2011, 12:57:PM »
I have reproduced the general area on the bed of the close up showing only one wound on Sheila's neck which I was recently allowed to view...

This photograph would have been taken before the ones where Sheila has been moved to the bedroom floor by the police, and the gun placed on her body. The negative for this picture would be amongst the 8 missing from the negative strip...

This is the general area on the bed where Sheila was photographed with only one wound to her neck...

For the purpose of being specific, there was no gun in the photograph which my informant showed to me recently where there is only one wound on Sheila's neck...

That throws a rather large spanner in the works, regarding the theory for the 2nd shot having been caused by butter-fingers Woodcock though?

« Last Edit: December 10, 2011, 01:01:PM by rochford »

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« Reply #1854 on: December 10, 2011, 12:59:PM »
sorry to go off topic, but how do i enable cookies, i cant read my emails.

if anyone can answer quickly, thankus muchus x
I'm not sure, but I think emails have been disabled? I'll check and get back to you.


No Grahame its ok, i meant my virgin account, not my mails here x

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« Reply #1855 on: December 10, 2011, 01:11:PM »
Not sure where to ask this question, so I will ask it here.

Is Farhad Emami, the chap called Freddie who has been mentioned on this forum?

Yes...

Thanks. 

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« Reply #1856 on: December 10, 2011, 04:44:PM »
I haven't posted in a while but after reading the latest updates from Mike, I just had to comment. I spent last night reading through this thread, aghast. Just when you think the whole thing can't get any worse  :-\ Its actally made me really angry at the disgusting behaviour of those police officers. I assume those images are being witheld on the grounds they're not in the public interest but surely this IS in the public interest?? What would happen if someone went to the papers with all of this - would it make a difference? I know 99.9% of us haven't seen said images so effectively we're having to take Mike at his word but surely something has to be done about this??

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« Reply #1857 on: December 10, 2011, 04:52:PM »
I haven't posted in a while but after reading the latest updates from Mike, I just had to comment. I spent last night reading through this thread, aghast. Just when you think the whole thing can't get any worse  :-\ Its actally made me really angry at the disgusting behaviour of those police officers. I assume those images are being witheld on the grounds they're not in the public interest but surely this IS in the public interest?? What would happen if someone went to the papers with all of this - would it make a difference? I know 99.9% of us haven't seen said images so effectively we're having to take Mike at his word but surely something has to be done about this??

I think it would backfire on JB if he sought redress via the press relating to any of the 'tomfoolery' photos.  It makes it look like he is trying to hit out at police on something seperate from his guilt / innocence.  Redress via the press should concentrate on the most weightiest issues among the defence arguments, in my opinion. 

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« Reply #1858 on: December 10, 2011, 05:02:PM »
Fair point. It just makes me fume  >:(

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« Reply #1859 on: December 10, 2011, 05:02:PM »
Smiffy.I am pretty sure that is a slipper by the chair in the crime scene photo of Sheila.Im certain that I have seen a clearer shot of it in a different photo.
I believe that Sheila was wearing those socks at one stage,as her feet shouldnt have been clean either way.Not living in a working farmhouse!

Can I ask what your take is on the matter of the bible.That blue bible was clearly not the original bible found with Sheilas body.It did not have her prints on it........only Junes.Did EP swap this bible with the black one,and if so......why? Why have we never heard any forensic information regarding the black bible,other than that blood was found inside it,as per the photograph?What do you read (pardon the pun) into this?
Thanks.