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Offline mike tesko

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1830 on: December 10, 2011, 09:16:AM »
How did the additional bloodied fingermarks appear around the fatal entry wound site, during this photographing stage?
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1831 on: December 10, 2011, 09:19:AM »
These images should be on the front page of every newspaper, and NEWS channel in the land, because somebody was trying to prevent the flow of blood from the fatal wound on Sheila's neck, now I wonder who that somebody could be?

It was not Jeremy bamber...

It was not some as yet unidentified killer...

IT WAS THE POLICE...
IT WAS THE POLICE...
IT WAS THE POLICE...
IT WAS THE POLICE...
IT WAS THE POLICE...
IT WAS THE POLICE...
IT WAS THE POLICE...
IT WAS THE POLICE...
IT WAS THE POLICE...
IT WAS THE POLICE...
IT WAS THE POLICE...
IT WAS THE POLICE...
IT WAS THE POLICE...
IT WAS THE POLICE...
IT WAS THE POLICE...
IT WAS THE POLICE...
IT WAS THE POLICE...
IT WAS THE POLICE...
IT WAS THE POLICE...
IT WAS THE POLICE...

Who else could it have been?

« Last Edit: December 10, 2011, 09:20:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1832 on: December 10, 2011, 09:41:AM »
Mike...the photographs of Sheila on the bed...what angle were they from to show what you describe...and can you tell us if the bottom of her feet could be seen to be clean or dirty?

Being on the bed would allow a better view as camera shot angles when an item or body is on the floor  are more restricted.
So if you wish to cover something up...then being posed on the floor would be better than say posed on the bed.

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1833 on: December 10, 2011, 09:52:AM »
Mike...the photographs of Sheila on the bed...what angle were they from to show what you describe...and can you tell us if the bottom of her feet could be seen to be clean or dirty?

Being on the bed would allow a better view as  shot angles when an item or body is on the floor  are more restricted.
So if you wish to cover something up...then being posed on the floor would be better than say posed on the bed.

 man was stood near bottom of bed, which afforded a view of Sheila on the bed almost square on, her feet seemed clean to me, it didn't give me the impression that she had been walking around barefoot, I have always been of the impression that she wore the socks that were later photographed on the floor by the side of the bed...

By reference to this (1) image (posted) camera man was stood more to the right, so that the bed with Sheila upon it, was square on, with a view looking slightly down onto the bed and the body, but with the railings at the foot of the bed in the picture...

I have drawn a diagram showing the position of the camera man in (2) to give everyone a better idea of where the camera man was stood when he took the picture I saw of Sheila on the bed. Of course, the photographs I have seen were taken before these I am using to illustrate where the pictures were taken from, because in these images Sheila's body has already been moved to the floor and photographed..
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1834 on: December 10, 2011, 10:11:AM »
There does appear to be a slipper by the side of the chair and across from the bible.
This may well be the one that appears in a photograph used in court and referred to by Hammersley.

Of note though.
In the wardrobe hanging up.
There is a blue item with a light blue band on the end of the sleeve that appear to be of a similar colour or the same as the pyjama top Ralph was photographed in. It may be nothing but I feel I need to look into this more.

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1835 on: December 10, 2011, 10:12:AM »
I can provide a better example of where the  Camera man was stood when he took the picture of Sheila on the bed, as i say he appeared to have been stood square onto the bed, and Sheila was on the bed slightly offset to the left (from the vantage point of where the  man was standing)...

Sheila's head was resting on the pillow, or at least it appeared to be behind her head:-
« Last Edit: December 10, 2011, 10:14:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1836 on: December 10, 2011, 10:17:AM »
Now...

Just to put matters into perspective, the missing 8 negatives which have gone missing and which have been cut from the negative strip would be before this picture (posted) was taken...

(extract copied from other site):-

09.12.11

The CCRC have refused to extended the deadline from the 9th December 2011, to January and have now closed the submissions to make their decision. We are bewildered as to why it has already taken almost 5 months and still no documents have been obtaned via the CCRC from Essex Police under section 17 of the Criminal Appeals Act. The documents requested are event and scene logs, the Defence has provided forensic reports for the CCRC requesting originals back in 2007 and again in July this year. What is in these documents that the police and CCRC do not want to disclose?
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1837 on: December 10, 2011, 10:28:AM »
This provides a better angle showing the general area on the bed where the body of Sheila was laid in the photograph I saw at Ewen Smiths office:-

Camera man held camera high up, looking forward and down onto the body of Sheila on the bed, she was only wearing that flimsy blue nightdress with the hem raised up, and her crotch area clearly visible, which seemed indecent to me...
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« Reply #1838 on: December 10, 2011, 11:48:AM »
I have reproduced the general area on the bed of the close up showing only one wound on Sheila's neck which I was recently allowed to view...

This photograph would have been taken before the ones where Sheila has been moved to the bedroom floor by the police, and the gun placed on her body. The negative for this picture would be amongst the 8 missing from the negative strip...
« Last Edit: December 10, 2011, 12:03:PM by mike tesko »
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« Reply #1839 on: December 10, 2011, 12:03:PM »
For Keira's Oriental Perusal and Speculation (K O P S)    The reiterated Magick Carpet Theory deduced from Sir R.F.BURTON's Translations from the ARABIAN KNIGHTS 1885 - 1888.      Take SHEILA's body from back kitchen rolled up in a carpet,, up stairs? to June's bedroom. Place on floor. Unroll carpet. In order to remove carpet, place Sheila's body on the bed. Re-roll carpet and put out sight under bed. This would be at the time shown on digital clock, which MIKE saw in the photo he saw, in EWEN SMITH's office, of Sheila on the bed. Sheila,s body then placed on floor, with rifle (without moderator?) and BIBLE to indicate suicidded solution.

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« Reply #1840 on: December 10, 2011, 12:04:PM »
I have reproduced the general area on the bed of the close up showing only one wound on Sheila's neck which I was recently allowed to view...

This photograph would have been taken before the ones where Sheila has been moved to the bedroom floor by the police, and the gun placed on her body. The negative for this picture would be amongst the 8 missing from the negative strip...

This is the general area on the bed where Sheila was photographed with only one wound to her neck...
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« Reply #1841 on: December 10, 2011, 12:07:PM »
I have reproduced the general area on the bed of the close up showing only one wound on Sheila's neck which I was recently allowed to view...

This photograph would have been taken before the ones where Sheila has been moved to the bedroom floor by the police, and the gun placed on her body. The negative for this picture would be amongst the 8 missing from the negative strip...

This is the general area on the bed where Sheila was photographed with only one wound to her neck...

'Z' showed me a photograph of only one wound on Sheila's neck, at a time she was laid on the bed, not on the floor...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1842 on: December 10, 2011, 12:17:PM »
Photograph posted in reply 1838, shows a view of where Sheila was on the bed, I cannot be any clearer than that. There was no gun on the bed, or on her body, and no bible on the bed, also June Bambers body was not on the bed, although in some reports in newspapers both bodies were found on the bed...

I have been told by my informant that police at the scene were guilty of taking indecent images of the three adult victims, in other words, being very very disrespectful to them all...
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« Reply #1843 on: December 10, 2011, 12:19:PM »
For Keira's Oriental Perusal and Speculation (K O P S)    The reiterated Magick Carpet Theory deduced from Sir R.F.BURTON's Translations from the ARABIAN KNIGHTS 1885 - 1888.      Take SHEILA's body from back kitchen rolled up in a carpet,, up stairs? to June's bedroom. Place on floor. Unroll carpet. In order to remove carpet, place Sheila's body on the bed. Re-roll carpet and put out sight under bed. This would be at the time shown on digital clock, which MIKE saw in the photo he saw, in EWEN SMITH's office, of Sheila on the bed. Sheila,s body then placed on floor, with rifle (without moderator?) and BIBLE to indicate suicidded solution.

interesting theory...
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« Reply #1844 on: December 10, 2011, 12:23:PM »
I have reproduced the general area on the bed of the close up showing only one wound on Sheila's neck which I was recently allowed to view...

This photograph would have been taken before the ones where Sheila has been moved to the bedroom floor by the police, and the gun placed on her body. The negative for this picture would be amongst the 8 missing from the negative strip...

This is the general area on the bed where Sheila was photographed with only one wound to her neck...

For the purpose of being specific, there was no gun in the photograph which my informant showed to me recently where there is only one wound on Sheila's neck...
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