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Offline BarefootDanC

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Re: Article about recent decision
« Reply #300 on: July 12, 2025, 06:53:PM »
Can you give a brief outline of Mary Strattons Aga burn scenario, Dan? I'm not on facebook.

Another question is: what is the Campaign Team's "scenario"? They commissioned the experiments, worked with Philip Boyce and submitted it as a ground to the CCRC.

Surely, they can explain how it happened !?

How come if the Aga burns theory is so plausible, how come Jeremy's supporters have several different contradictory theories as to how it happened !?

May be the Campaign Team do not have any scenario at all! Maybe they don't care. Maybe the relevance is just that the police corrupted the crime scene and kept quiet about it and said at the trial that they didn't!

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Re: Article about recent decision
« Reply #301 on: July 12, 2025, 06:57:PM »
Another question is: what is the Campaign Team's "scenario"? They commissioned the experiments, worked with Philip Boyce and submitted it as a ground to the CCRC.

Surely, they can explain how it happened !?

How come if the Aga burns theory is so plausible, how come Jeremy's supporters have several different contradictory theories as to how it happened !?

May be the Campaign Team do not have any scenario at all! Maybe they don't care. Maybe the relevance is just that the police corrupted the crime scene and kept quiet about it and said at the trial that they didn't!

Someone has sent me this:

Believe there scenario is Nevill was on the aga. Then either the raid team or police moved him pre photos.

The CT can then say if dozens of officers lied about moving Nevill at WHF, what else did they lie about.
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Re: Article about recent decision
« Reply #302 on: July 12, 2025, 07:01:PM »
Another question is: what is the Campaign Team's "scenario"? They commissioned the experiments, worked with Philip Boyce and submitted it as a ground to the CCRC.

Surely, they can explain how it happened !?

How come if the Aga burns theory is so plausible, how come Jeremy's supporters have several different contradictory theories as to how it happened !?

May be the Campaign Team do not have any scenario at all! Maybe they don't care. Maybe the relevance is just that the police corrupted the crime scene and kept quiet about it and said at the trial that they didn't!

Someone has sent me this:


I'm 100% convinced that you're right. It comes down to creating a possibility which makes them think such might be possible. I don't, truly, believe they give a toss about innocence or guilt...............but I'm more inclined to believe they think he's guilty. An unsafe conviction wouldn't make him innocent.

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Re: Article about recent decision
« Reply #303 on: July 12, 2025, 07:04:PM »

I'm 100% convinced that you're right. It comes down to creating a possibility which makes them think such might be possible. I don't, truly, believe they give a toss about innocence or guilt...............but I'm more inclined to believe they think he's guilty. An unsafe conviction wouldn't make him innocent.

Well, they say that they have definite proof. Proof which is "irrefutable". They say that it was obvious all along and they have always been able to prove it, but in 2011 when they received the "347,000 documents" or "347,000 pages of documents" they could prove it even more!

And they would be able to prove it ever more still if the CCRC did some further investigations, rather than a "desktop review".

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« Reply #304 on: July 12, 2025, 07:05:PM »
Both sides say they are burns.

CC says they are internal screws. Obviously on a wind up.


Mea culpa

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« Reply #305 on: July 12, 2025, 07:08:PM »
Well, they say that they have definite proof. Proof which is "irrefutable". They say that it was obvious all along and they have always been able to prove it, but in 2011 when they received the "347,000 documents" or "347,000 pages of documents" they could prove it even more!

And they would be able to prove it ever more still if the CCRC did some further investigations, rather than a "desktop review".


Mike Tesko presented "definitive proof. Proof which is "irrefutable"" on numerous occasions!

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Re: Article about recent decision
« Reply #306 on: July 12, 2025, 08:39:PM »
Emma Morris will include this explanatory video in the next bundle of grounds when the current ten have been binned, shredded and disposed of in Birmingham's landfill -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vichO9cGHo8&ab_channel=Star%27sChannel
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« Reply #307 on: July 12, 2025, 08:44:PM »
HA HA, she’s got to practice the Roly Poly in Rigor Mortis first.

This brings back memories of infant school and how uncomfortable it was.

Same thing with skipping. I could never do it. I would think to myself "I'm not sure if I want to do this, this is for girls, no - don't be sexist, try it, oh no, that didn't work. This is pointless". Which is a shame, because skipping is good for running form.

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« Reply #308 on: July 12, 2025, 08:47:PM »
This brings back memories of infant school and how uncomfortable it was.

Same thing with skipping. I could never do it. I would think to myself "I'm not sure if I want to do this, this is for girls, no - don't be sexist, try it, oh no, that didn't work. This is pointless". Which is a shame, because skipping is good for running form.
I bet you needed trainers today Dan out running, Barefoot would be painful in this heat.

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Re: Article about recent decision
« Reply #309 on: July 12, 2025, 08:49:PM »
If the Aga wasn't on, then how could the killer heat an object up to burn Nevills back at all then, Jane?
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Re: Article about recent decision
« Reply #310 on: July 12, 2025, 08:49:PM »
HA HA, she’s got to practice the Roly Poly in Rigor Mortis first.

Also, she need to practise with a heavy person on a stool - and then just with a push against the stool, it makes the said heavy person do the roly poly. Roly poly onto the Aga.

Maybe the CCRC has done this experiment itself. Maybe the CCRC has hired a room, a stool and a heavy dummy and practiced barging into the room, pushing the dummy off the stool onto the Aga but the experiment didn't work.

In the next lot of submissions, they will argue that CCRC are lying about the experiment because they wouldn't disclose the receipt for the damaged door to Jeremy's lawyers. Bill Robertson will write an article about it.

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Re: Article about recent decision
« Reply #311 on: July 12, 2025, 08:51:PM »
This brings back memories of infant school and how uncomfortable it was.

Same thing with skipping. I could never do it. I would think to myself "I'm not sure if I want to do this, this is for girls, no - don't be sexist, try it, oh no, that didn't work. This is pointless". Which is a shame, because skipping is good for running form.
Skipping required a bit more coordination don’t you think Dan?

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Re: Article about recent decision
« Reply #312 on: July 12, 2025, 08:59:PM »
I bet you needed trainers today Dan out running, Barefoot would be painful in this heat.

No, nothing on my feet today!

I went to a field about mid day, ran 3 miles, then came back. After lunch, around 2 o'clock I walked to the green grocers at Hillsborough and  did the main food shop at Lidl on the way home, so this was a 2 mile round-trip, all barefoot. My feet didn't get burnt at all but my arms and my neck have caught the sun a bit. I kept thinking how hot and sweaty people must be in shoes.

This is good practice for August, when I go on a family holiday to Spain for a fortnight. I don't intend to wear shoes at all unless I am forced to wear Xeros sandals on the plane.


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Re: Article about recent decision
« Reply #313 on: July 12, 2025, 09:30:PM »
No, nothing on my feet today!

I went to a field about mid day, ran 3 miles, then came back. After lunch, around 2 o'clock I walked to the green grocers at Hillsborough and  did the main food shop at Lidl on the way home, so this was a 2 mile round-trip, all barefoot. My feet didn't get burnt at all but my arms and my neck have caught the sun a bit. I kept thinking how hot and sweaty people must be in shoes.

This is good practice for August, when I go on a family holiday to Spain for a fortnight. I don't intend to wear shoes at all unless I am forced to wear Xeros sandals on the plane.
Good grief Dan, it’s been melting tarmac today 🙈. Advantage of going by plane in bare feet, you don’t have to take your shoes off through security, and no feet swelling on the plane?  Have you tried walking on hot coals Dan 😂

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Re: Article about recent decision
« Reply #314 on: July 12, 2025, 09:44:PM »
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Thanks. Dan! For what its worth, I will tell you what I think happened at the Whitehouse that night.
OK, Sheila has broken down and decided to go on the rampage around 11.00 o'clock on the night of the murders, she heads down to the scullery to find a weapon.
Nevill hears her and goes to investigate, finding her in the kitchen with the Anschutz rifle.
Nevill may have tried to talk Sheila down, who knows, but things went pear shaped and Sheila broke the rifle butt over Nevills head sending him to the floor against the Aga, this is when his back was burned.
There is a chance that Nevill simply had a stroke or heart attack with the stress of the situation and fell against the Aga, but I think the rifle was smashed at this time rather than later on when Nevill was at deaths door and no threat!
Anyhow, Nevill is out cold with probable fractures to his scull around 11.00-12.00? his back being slowly burned and Sheila is now free to go on the rampage.
June is shot first while in bed, but manages to get up after being badly wounded, maybe the rifle had jammed at this stage? she stumbles round the bed after Sheila, but is pushed to the floor and shot in the head after Sheila manages to eject the jammed shell.
Sheila then re-loads the rifle before shooting the boys who only receive head shots, Sheila doesn't want to wound them like June and let them know what was happening, she couldn't stand them to suffer, so head shots only! Quick and painless!
Just what Sheila did next is anyones guess, but we know that letters were found for her birth mother.
Sheila re-loads the rifle again at some stage too.
Nevill comes round again about 3.00 and drags himself onto a chair, badly injured with a cracked skull he can barely stand. As he slowly recovers and remembers what has happened he decides to phone JB and ask him to come over.
When Nevill gets through to JB he simply tells him to come over because Sheila has got hold of a gun, he  only says the neccessary as he wants to get upstairs to see what has happened. Nevill may have missed the phone cradle in his dazed state and left the phone off the hook
Nevill staggers to his feet and slowly stumbles up stairs, shouting out to June.
Sheila grabs hold of the rifle and waits for Nevill to climb the stairs, where he is met with two shots into his face.
Now at deaths door, Nevill tries to retreat,but in his slow state he is an easy target and receives further bullets to his shoulder and arm. Once Nevill eventually reaches the kitchen again, he can only stumble onto a chair exhausted and in severe pain.
Sheila enters the kitchen and Nevill holds up his one good arm in defence, Sheila prods him in the arm with the rifle barrel causing many cuts and bruises, she also whacks him on the shoulders with the flat of the barrel.
Nevills watch is hooked off at this stage, the lamp shade may have been smashed earlier on when Nevill was knocked out.
Anyway, Nevill eventually trips up over his pyjama bottoms and stumbles onto the side of a chair, his head falling forward into the scuttle as he looses conciousness from his injuries.
Sheila is now free to shoot Nevill in the head and make sure that he is dead like the others.
Just when Sheila shot herself I do not know!
So this is roughly what I think must have happened, Dan!
The burns were formed sometime between 11.00-3.00 while Nevill was knocked out,he then came round, phoned JB, went upstairs where Sheila shot him before retreating to the kitchen to be finished off, ending up on the chair/scuttle.
Any thoughts?
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