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Re: The Silenced Rifle Did Not Fit Inside The Gun Cupboard
« Reply #135 on: September 20, 2020, 01:01:PM »
I agree, that’s why he invented this story as a back up.   The story serves two purposes.






Like a lot of things in this case JB's " actions " have been purposely misconstrued to fit the guilty agenda.

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« Reply #136 on: September 20, 2020, 01:10:PM »
Did JB need to say anything about rabbits ? No, not at all. There was so little he could have said to defend himself because he hadn't carried out the wicked act that the few words he said weren't believed anyway.
It's damn difficult defending yourself when you know in your own mind it's true but you're up against a bunch of " Dad's Army " cops whose motto is guilty before innocent and their tendency to twist everything just to seal a conviction. With the help of their mouth-pieces of course !

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« Reply #137 on: September 20, 2020, 01:14:PM »
. Here we go again the old ritual washing Chestnut, I wonder if the magician  did a pull through on the barrel just in case any muck/ blood got on the bullets before killing herself or after?  Does washing your hands stop fingerprints? I would say having clean hands stops the prints from being more visible to the naked eye rather than having dirty hands it doesn’t eliminate them.

No, just washing your hands and having clean hands would not necessary prevent fingerprints, but that is not what I said.  As usual, you have twisted what I say into something slightly different.  I'm not sure if you do this out of stupidity, because you're thick, or you do it because you are just biased and dishonest.  Anyway, what I also referred to is Sheila drying her hands, which could prevent fingerprints.

You ridicule the washing theory, even though it is supported by psychiatry and, I would say, it is also supported by common experience.  A woman who has just killed five people, including her children, and has blood on her, might well then want to wash herself before killing herself.  The phenomenon is well-known among murder-suiciders and suiciders in general, so why do you keep ridiculing it? 

It's not hard to imagine that somebody who is about to commit suicide would want to be clean and maybe well-dressed.  Why is that ridiculous?  I agree it isn't rational, but we're not dealing with a rational frame of mind, so we have to use our imagination a bit.

Yet you maintain it is ridiculous.  I can only assume you have credentials in this field?  Perhaps you could confirm what these are?  Are you a forensic psychiatrist, or just in general psychiatry?  Do you have many patients?  Where did you complete your medical degree?  Where did you undertake your training as a registrar?  Once we have a sense of your expertise, then we can afford your arrogance more credence.

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Re: The Silenced Rifle Did Not Fit Inside The Gun Cupboard
« Reply #138 on: September 20, 2020, 01:23:PM »
The rifle was classed as an " estate firearm/rifle " so it would have been normal to have found family prints on it ?

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« Reply #139 on: September 20, 2020, 01:25:PM »
Because JB's print was on it didn't mean that he carried out the killing. The " unidentified " male could well have been Nevill---we don't know.

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« Reply #140 on: September 20, 2020, 02:05:PM »
No, just washing your hands and having clean hands would not necessary prevent fingerprints, but that is not what I said.  As usual, you have twisted what I say into something slightly different.  I'm not sure if you do this out of stupidity, because you're thick, or you do it because you are just biased and dishonest.  Anyway, what I also referred to is Sheila drying her hands, which could prevent fingerprints.

You ridicule the washing theory, even though it is supported by psychiatry and, I would say, it is also supported by common experience.  A woman who has just killed five people, including her children, and has blood on her, might well then want to wash herself before killing herself.  The phenomenon is well-known among murder-suiciders and suiciders in general, so why do you keep ridiculing it? 

It's not hard to imagine that somebody who is about to commit suicide would want to be clean and maybe well-dressed.  Why is that ridiculous?  I agree it isn't rational, but we're not dealing with a rational frame of mind, so we have to use our imagination a bit.

Yet you maintain it is ridiculous.  I can only assume you have credentials in this field?  Perhaps you could confirm what these are?  Are you a forensic psychiatrist, or just in general psychiatry?  Do you have many patients?  Where did you complete your medical degree?  Where did you undertake your training as a registrar?  Once we have a sense of your expertise, then we can afford your arrogance more credence.
The same could be said of you with all the shite you write, you say it with so much conviction hoping with your arrogance no one dare question.

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Re: The Silenced Rifle Did Not Fit Inside The Gun Cupboard
« Reply #141 on: September 20, 2020, 02:21:PM »
No, just washing your hands and having clean hands would not necessary prevent fingerprints, but that is not what I said. As usual, you have twisted what I say into something slightly different.  I'm not sure if you do this out of stupidity, because you're thick, or you do it because you are just biased and dishonest.  Anyway, what I also referred to is Sheila drying her hands, which could prevent fingerprints.

You ridicule the washing theory, even though it is supported by psychiatry and, I would say, it is also supported by common experience.  A woman who has just killed five people, including her children, and has blood on her, might well then want to wash herself before killing herself.  The phenomenon is well-known among murder-suiciders and suiciders in general, so why do you keep ridiculing it? 

It's not hard to imagine that somebody who is about to commit suicide would want to be clean and maybe well-dressed.  Why is that ridiculous?  I agree it isn't rational, but we're not dealing with a rational frame of mind, so we have to use our imagination a bit.

Yet you maintain it is ridiculous.  I can only assume you have credentials in this field?  Perhaps you could confirm what these are?  Are you a forensic psychiatrist, or just in general psychiatry?  Do you have many patients?  Where did you complete your medical degree?  Where did you undertake your training as a registrar?  Once we have a sense of your expertise, then we can afford your arrogance more credence.
You've insulted so many members in this way, including myself. Yesterday you told one member to get a vasectomy. I really think the Moderators should step in to send you a private message and remove these public posts.

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« Reply #142 on: September 20, 2020, 02:41:PM »
You've insulted so many members in this way, including myself. Yesterday you told one member to get a vasectomy. I really think the Moderators should step in to send you a private message and remove these public posts.
I quite like it Steve, it shows how insecure he is for any neutral reading 😂😂😂😂

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Re: The Silenced Rifle Did Not Fit Inside The Gun Cupboard
« Reply #143 on: September 20, 2020, 02:43:PM »
You've insulted so many members in this way, including myself. Yesterday you told one member to get a vasectomy. I really think the Moderators should step in to send you a private message and remove these public posts.

Well I’m a big fan  :) he’s never insulted me and we are on different sides of the fence.

He’s a truth seeker
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #144 on: September 20, 2020, 05:40:PM »
The rifle was classed as an " estate firearm/rifle " so it would have been normal to have found family prints on it ?
Inventing the Bunny story and leaving the rifle lying about or in view, this then  made it all the more convenient that Sheila didn’t have to go look for it, better still leaving a box of ammunition/bullets tipped  out as well,  makes it all the more fitting.  The whole story then makes it look like Sheila didn’t have to search or go look for anything, he’s making it easier for her.

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« Reply #145 on: September 20, 2020, 07:04:PM »
Inventing the Bunny story and leaving the rifle lying about or in view, this then  made it all the more convenient that Sheila didn’t have to go look for it, better still leaving a box of ammunition/bullets tipped  out as well,  makes it all the more fitting.  The whole story then makes it look like Sheila didn’t have to search or go look for anything, he’s making it easier for her.






The spilt bullets wouldn't have looked like that after JB had left for home as his father would have seen to that. That would have been done by Sheila as she loaded the rifle, piece-meal. An empty box of them was found in the bedroom as Colin had said in his book. Sheila didn't have pockets, evidently.

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« Reply #146 on: September 21, 2020, 10:32:AM »





The spilt bullets wouldn't have looked like that after JB had left for home as his father would have seen to that. That would have been done by Sheila as she loaded the rifle, piece-meal. An empty box of them was found in the bedroom as Colin had said in his book. Sheila didn't have pockets, evidently.
I think your right and I think Jeremy realised this, he changes his stories along the way when he’s had time to think.  He tells officers in the morning that he left the rifle loaded on the Kitchen table with a box of ammunition, he doesn’t deny saying this and admits he could have told officers this.  He changes this story on interviews, because his mother or father wouldn’t have allowed him to leave it there, because they were sat at the  kitchen table according to him, the table was set for breakfast so no rifle would be left on the table, so he hides it a little in his next story, enough for Sheila to find it and enough for Neville to miss it.


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Re: The Silenced Rifle Did Not Fit Inside The Gun Cupboard
« Reply #147 on: September 21, 2020, 01:16:PM »
The rifle was classed as an " estate firearm/rifle " so it would have been normal to have found family prints on it ?

Exactly...

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« Reply #148 on: September 21, 2020, 01:18:PM »
You've insulted so many members in this way, including myself. Yesterday you told one member to get a vasectomy. I really think the Moderators should step in to send you a private message and remove these public posts.

Could you point to the post where I made that statement please?  I know that is not what I said and that was not the context of the post, so shortly I will again start calling you a liar.

You are a terrible hypocrite and bare-faced liar, Steve.

On the other hand, every time you come on here you dig a bigger hole for Julie Smerchanski or Colin Caffell.  I couldn't think of a poor advocate for their cause.

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« Reply #149 on: September 21, 2020, 01:25:PM »
I quite like it Steve, it shows how insecure he is for any neutral reading 😂😂😂😂

I love how you suggest I am insecure.  In the context of your posts, that does seem a bit contradictory, and frankly, a bit rich.

I love also how Steve suggests I should be reported to the moderators when considered against your and Steve's posts, which started the trouble in the first place and are intended to bully people and cause disruption.

It's classic gaslighting - the hallmark of bullies and abusers everywhere.

With your arrogant posts and babyish emoticons, you seem to imagine yourself as some sort of authority on the case, when in reality you aren't particularly knowledgeable or insightful, and it's clear you're not very sharp or clever.  The emoticons just make you look arrogant and childish and are perhaps a comforting substitute for you, giving you a sense of affirmation and importance.

I notice, as well, you have no response to the idea that Sheila could have wiped the rifle, other than the usual arrogance and baby-talk.  If it's so ridiculous, then perhaps Geoffrey Rivlin Q.C. and Professor Bernard Knight are ridiculous too?  They advanced the theory that Sheila washed herself. 

I think what it boils down to is that deep inside you there is a fear of acknowledging any sort of doubt.  You've make the mistake of investing your ego in this.