Jeremy Bamber Forum

That depends, because if what he said in the interview, taken in context, is clear that a 999 call was made then the Campaign Team would be right, but if taken in context he said something else then it would prove that Heidi had been taken in by the Campaign Team.

The contemporaneous evidence shows that at 6:09, "999" was just being used to listen in.

It also shows that the line status at WHF changed from off the hook to engaged at 05.47.

What's this "fully fit'thing you always say?

He had a weight and height greater than Shelia.

I am 6 foot 4, my Mrs is 5 5 tops, if she has a firearm she can shoot me. I am not use to love or ornament.

Do you agree if Nevill could not calm Sheila down by talking, he would seek help from June or physically restrain Sheila.

Bamber said himself he would be of no use & acted accordingly.

I am looking at the defence scenario.

I do agree that Nevill being downstairs, fully fit & bare footed is a non starter. He would not let things escalate.

I don't believe 11 words after his 4 shots in/by his bed is purposeful talk. Nevill believed he could say them as he started ringing Bamber according to the defence.

However I do not believe Nevill would choose the ringing Bamber option after his 4 upstairs shots.

Bambers counter is that he phoned him before he was shot.

Whether you disbelieve that or I do is neither here or there.

There isnt evidence to say it didnt happen.

The defence could not say Nevill called Bamber while fully fit.

Bamber's own words on the night & afterwards shows he would be of no use in helping Nevill calm Sheila down by talk.

Nevill would not need Bamber's help in physically restraining Sheila. 

The defence also knew June was an available fully functioning adult inside WHF. Who Nevill would go to first. 

I don't know enough about Nevill's 2 face shots to know if he could speak or not.

The adreleline would be running through Nevill and it was only 11 words he said. So agree with the prosecution - difficulty. But possible.

What I do not agree with is Nevill chose to start phoning Bamber's AM at 3.00am instead of reclaim his rifle & then ring 999 for an ambulance.

If it was proved that there was no way that Nevill phoned Jeremy that night then it would be case game set and match.

In the same breathe, had a call been proven from WHF to GH, then GH to Chelmsford,the police wouldnt have had a case and Jeremy would still be a free man today.

The calls couldnt be traced ( Jeremy Bamber enquired about it though in his interviews)

Reference the speaking aspect, its said he couldnt make purposeful talk on the account of his injuries but Jeremy can counter that aspect by simply saying " he recieved them after he rang and spoke to me

Appreciate you believe he would " just take the rifle "