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OTHER HIGH PROFILE CASES => Other cases => Topic started by: mike tesko on July 17, 2018, 09:39:AM
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The contents of Kate McCanns book 'MADELEINE' provides the clearest evidence yet, that Madeleine Is dead - in her own words, the truth is that her account is full of factual lies, contradictions, inconsistencies, irregularities and ambiguities!
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The contents of Kate McCanns book 'MADELEINE' provides the clearest evidence yet, that Madeleine Is dead - in her own words, the truth is that her account is full of factual lies, contradictions, inconsistencies, irregularities and ambiguities!
Moreover, as told in Kate McCanns own words - how the parents had scaled walls and looked or searched in ditches and holes on the first morning post the occasion of reporting Madeleine as 'gone', or that 'she had been taken', not taken by a solitary would be make believe abductor, but that 'THEY HAD TAKEN HER', yes, they had taken Madeleine from the apartment, to the ditch and the hole which had been dug in the corner of the rear garden, of the derelict building where her remains were concealed until the hire of the rented Renault Scenic!
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Let's start at the point where Kate McCann says that upon returning from her jog, how she joined up with Gerry, Madeleine, Amelia and Sean at High tea at 5.30pm, on the evening of 3rd May 2007. Here is the relevant extract from her book ('Madeleine) on page 66 of her publicised account, in her own words:-
She states in her narrative, how at 5.30pm she had finished her run at the 'tapas bar area', and that she found her three children, including Madeleine who had already started their tea in the company of her husband, 'GERRY'...
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ACCORDING TO THE LOBSTERS CRECHE REGISTER, Kate McCann had collected the children from the creche at 5.30pm?
Alternatively, in her witness statement account that she gave to the Portuguese police, she says something entirely different - the nannies had brought Madeleine from the creche to high tea that evening, and the parents signed it (5.30pm) the end when everyone had finished eating!
All three versions of what had happened, or taken place simply cannot be true, for example (a) When Kate returned from her jog to the tapas at 5.30pm, she found Madeleine, Amelia and Sean, with Gerry McCann who were already eating, (b) She had not only collected Amelia and Sean from the jellyfish creche at 5.25am, but that with two young children in tow she had also collected Madeleine from the Lobsters creche at 5.30pm, and taken them all to high tea, and or, (c) that the nannies from the lobster creche had brought Madeleine along for high tea from the Lobsters creche, and that one or other parent was required to sign the Lobsters registration log once everybody had finished their high tea?
On the face of it, somebody is not telling the truth!
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I do not believe for one moment that Madeleine had been to the Lobsters creche at any time on the 3rd May 2007, she was not there on the morning session, she did not attend the sailing club event, and that she did not attend the afternoon session because she was already dead by that stage!
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I do not believe for one moment that Madeleine had been to the Lobsters creche at any time on the 3rd May 2007, she was not there on the morning session, she did not attend the sailing club event, and that she did not attend the afternoon session because she was already dead by that stage!
It is quite obvious to me, that Kate McCann has been guilty of 'narrative building', with the intention of trying to pull the wool over everybodies eyes!
Her claim in her own book that Madeleine, Amelia and Sean were already eating high tea with her husband Gerry McCann at 5.30pm when she returned to the tapas from her run (jog), simply cannot be true, if the entries in the jellyfish and lobster creche registers are not forgeries, it's as simple as that!
The Jelly fish creche registration shows that Amelia and Sean were collected by Kate McCann at 5.25pm, on 3rd May 2007, which was 5 minutes before she attended at the Lobsters creche to collect Madeleine (at 5.30pm) - how then could the above three named children have already been sitting eating high tea with Gerry NcCann when Kate returned from her run (jogging) to the tapas at 5.30pm?
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At 3.30pm, Kate and Gerry McCann had booked an hour long couples tennis lesson with the professional coach at the resort. But because the courts were unoccupied half an hour before that appointment, Kate and Gerry took advantage and decided to having a knock up for half an hour first. This put them on the tennis courts at 3 pm that day, but there is no official record that they actually were present on the tennis courts during that 30 minute period. These/those 30 minutes could prove to be a pivotal part of the case concerning the disappearance of Madeleine McCann...
there is no independent coroberative evidence, that Kate and Gerry McCann had had a knock up between themselves some 30 minutes before they're booked appointment on the tennis courts with the professional coach.
A great deal could have been done during those 30 minutes!
For example, either one of the parents, or both of them come to that matter, could quite easily have made the journey down towards the beach, in particular, to the general area of the derelict building which is situated directly across the street from the village church, so as to deposit madeline's body which was contained inside Gerry McCann sports holdall in the grounds of the derelict building, and then one or other, or both of them then made their way back up to the Tapas area in time for their booked appointment with the professional coach on the tennis courts at 3: 30 pm!
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In my opinion, that 30 minute period between 3.00pm and 3.30pm has to be treated as potentially the point when the parents got rid of the body!
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To a certain extent, the McCann parents sought to rely upon the fact that because they knew that Russell O'Briens daughter (Ella) was present at the lobster creche that afternoon, by mentioning that Ella was already present by the time the McCanns dropped off Madeleine at 2.50pm, that this in some way establishes beyond doubt that Madeleine was still alive by 2.50pm, but it doesn't...
Madeleine had died by that stage, already!
This brings into play something which neither the Portuguese police, nor the Leicestershire police, or the Metropolitan Police, appear to have considered, but it is something worthy of serious consideration, and that is that some tragedy befell Madeleine McCann at the morning creche (Lobsters) which led to the nanny in question contacting one or other of the parents on their mobile telephones, requesting that they come as quickly as possible because Madeleine had had a terrible accident, and that upon arriving at the creche that one or both the parents took it upon themselves to try to revive Madeleine, or if possible to keep her alive, but that things turned from bad to worse, and it left the creche nanny and the parents in a predicament!
I feel sure, that if such a thing did happen, that it happened during the morning session...
My reasons for believing this, are as follows:-
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To a certain extent, the McCann parents sought to rely upon the fact that because they knew that Russell O'Briens daughter (Ella) was present at the lobster creche that afternoon, by mentioning that Ella was already present by the time the McCanns dropped off Madeleine at 2.50pm, that this in some way establishes beyond doubt that Madeleine was still alive by 2.50pm, but it doesn't...
Madeleine had died by that stage, already!
This brings into play something which neither the Portuguese police, nor the Leicestershire police, or the Metropolitan Police, appear to have considered, but it is something worthy of serious consideration, and that is that some tragedy befell Madeleine McCann at the morning creche (Lobsters) which led to the nanny in question contacting one or other of the parents on their mobile telephones, requesting that they come as quickly as possible because Madeleine had had a terrible accident, and that upon arriving at the creche that one or both the parents took it upon themselves to try to revive Madeleine, or if possible to keep her alive, but that things turned from bad to worse, and it left the creche nanny and the parents in a predicament!
I feel sure, that if such a thing did happen, that it happened during the morning session...
My reasons for believing this, are as follows:-
Group members who were present at the beach who saw the children from Lobsters creche enjoying themselves on a sailing adventure, that particular morning (3rd May 2007) did not recollect seeing Madeleine McCann as having been present at that time!
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Group members who were present at the beach who saw the children from Lobsters creche enjoying themselves on a sailing adventure, that particular morning (3rd May 2007) did not recollect seeing Madeleine McCann as having been present at that time!
According to witness statements made by the creche nannies, the kids sailing club only took place in the afternoon of Tuesday 1st May 2007, and on the following day, Wednesday 2nd May 2007!
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According to witness statements made by the creche nannies, the kids sailing club only took place in the afternoon of Tuesday 1st May 2007, and on the following day, Wednesday 2nd May 2007!
There had been no sailing club at all on Thursday 3rd May 2007...
Here are the creche registers (lobsters) for Tuesday and Wednesday afternoon (1st and 2nd May 2007):-
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Oddly enough, and without any explanation, there appears one creche register (Lobsters) which is 'UNDATED', with nowhere for it to fit in anywhere, suggesting that these registers could have been tampered with - since, if Madeleine McCann had gone missing or had died much sooner than the time (10pm) she was reported taken by her parents from. Their apartment, then the log entries bearing Madeleine's name, and the parents details and signatures, must be forgeries! Of course, the nanny who purportedly looked after the kids would have to be in on any sort of a cover up involving the possibility that Madeleine had died whilst at the creche, and once one or other parent was contacted and attended, that they may have adopted a procedure to try and ressusitate her, or to keep her alive, but everything must have gone tits up! At that point, the Nanny and the parents found themselves in a predicament - had the local emergency services been called out at all?
It's looking highly probable that something untoward happened to Madeleine on the afternoon of Tuesday 1st May 2007, when only six of the seven children who were attending the sailing club too part!
The 7 child members of the group at the creche (lobsters) on afternoon of 1st May 2007:
(1) - Madeleine McCann
(2) - Jessica Berry
(3) - Tia Patel
(4) - Ella O'Brian
(5) - William
(6) - Elizabeth Naylor
(7) - Richard Nann
Yet, only 6 of these 7 took part in the sailing club activity on that (1st May 2007) date!
It is my belief that Madeleine McCann was the child who did not take part in the sailing club activities on that particular afternoon!
Something happened to her after she joined the afternoon session, which led to her death!
Also, note that Madeleine wasn't collected by anyone, and that the time of collection has been omitted! In addition, Madeleine's name appears twice on the register, bottom of list for morning session, top of the list afternoon session?
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Oddly enough, and without any explanation, there appears one creche register (Lobsters) which is 'UNDATED', with nowhere for it to fit in anywhere, suggesting that these registers could have been tampered with - since, if Madeleine McCann had gone missing or had died much sooner than the time (10pm) she was reported taken by her parents from their apartment, then the log entries bearing Madeleine's name, and the parents details and signatures, must be forgeries! Of course, the nanny who purportedly looked after the kids would have to be in on any sort of a cover up involving the possibility that Madeleine had died whilst at the creche, and once one or other parent was contacted and attended, that they may have adopted a procedure to try and ressusitate her, or to keep her alive, but everything must have gone tits up! At that point, the Nanny and the parents found themselves in a predicament - had the local emergency services been called out at all?
It's looking highly probable that something untoward happened to Madeleine on the afternoon of Tuesday 1st May 2007, when only six of the seven children who were attending the sailing club too part!
The 7 child members of the group at the creche (lobsters) on afternoon of 1st May 2007:
(1) - Madeleine McCann
(2) - Jessica Berry
(3) - Tia Patel
(4) - Ella O'Brian
(5) - William
(6) - Elizabeth Naylor
(7) - Richard Nann
Yet, only 6 of these 7 took part in the sailing club activity on that (1st May 2007) date!
It is my belief that Madeleine McCann was the child who did not take part in the sailing club activities on that particular afternoon!
Something happened to her after she joined the afternoon session, which led to her death!
Also, note that Madeleine wasn't collected by anyone, and that the time of collection has been omitted! In addition, Madeleine's name appears twice on the register, bottom of list for morning session, top of the list afternoon session?
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Oddly enough, and without any explanation, there appears one creche register (Lobsters) which is 'UNDATED', with nowhere for it to fit in anywhere, suggesting that these registers could have been tampered with - since, if Madeleine McCann had gone missing or had died much sooner than the time (10pm) she was reported taken by her parents from. Their apartment, then the log entries bearing Madeleine's name, and the parents details and signatures, must be forgeries! Of course, the nanny who purportedly looked after the kids would have to be in on any sort of a cover up involving the possibility that Madeleine had died whilst at the creche, and once one or other parent was contacted and attended, that they may have adopted a procedure to try and ressusitate her, or to keep her alive, but everything must have gone tits up! At that point, the Nanny and the parents found themselves in a predicament - had the local emergency services been called out at all?
Here is the undated creche log (Lobsters):-
Madeleine McCann, and Ella O'Brien appear on this undated register, but to when does it refer?
Rather more disturbing is the fact that the signatures of various parents, including Gerry McCann appear upon it!
Here is a list of the am creche members in this undated register (lobsters):-
(1) - Jessica Berry (booked in 9.10am, booked out 12pm)
(2) - Elizabeth (booked in 9.10am, booked out 12.30pm)
(3) - Alexander Mann (booked in 9.15am, booked out 12.30pm)
(4) - William (booked in 9.15am, booked out 12.30pm)
(5) - Madeleine McCann (booked in 9.45am, booked out 12.15pm)
Here is a list of pm creche member in this undated version of the register (lobsters)
(1) - Jessica Berry (booked in 2.30pm, booked out 5.20pm)
(2) - Elizabeth Naylor (booked in 2.40pm, booked out 5.20pm)
(3) - Madeleine McCann (booked in 14.45hrs, booked out 17.30hrs)
(4) - Ella O'Brien (booked in 2.45pm, booked out 3.30pm)
(5) - Alexander Mann (booked in 3pm, booked out 5.30pm)
All we need to do now is find the date?
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Catriona Baker the lobster creche nanny would have to be a party to any underhand dealings relating to the details recorded in the creche registration logs, as it were having been paid off for her silence!
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Catriona Baker the lobster creche nanny would have to be a party to any underhand dealings relating to the details recorded in the creche registration logs, as it were having been paid off for her silence!
The McCann parents are known to have bunged at least one person £500.000 to guarantee keeping Madeleine's case on the front pages of the tabloids for the entire fist year after Madeleine was reported as 'taken' by her parents after 10pm on 3rd May 2007...
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The McCann parents are known to have bunged at least one person £500.000 to guarantee keeping Madeleine's case on the front pages of the tabloids for the entire fist year after Madeleine was reported as 'taken' by her parents after 10pm on 3rd May 2007...
With his pockets bulging with blood money 'Clarence' was obviously, such a happy chappy!
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With his pockets bulging with blood money 'Clarence' was obviously, such a happy chappy!
Paid for, out of public contributions, and donations...
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The McCann parents have milked it, for every last penny they can drag from the public, as part of their campaign to keep them from being suspected of having anything whatsoever to do with what had actually happens to their daughter, Madeleine McCann!
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I believe she is dead!
I believe that the parents, tapas group members and at least one nanny at the creche, had always known that she had died!
I believe that she may not necessarily have died inside apartment 5A, but that rather that she died whilst attending the creche at Lobsters on the afternoon of Tuesday, 1st May 2007...
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If Madeleine died in some sort of tragic circumstances on the afternoon 1st May 2007, would they conceal Madeleine's body in the apartment until the afternoon of 3rd May 2007 (2 days)?
Is there any unusual behaviour relating to the McCann parents, and the other members of their group, which might shed more light upon what had really happened to Madeleine McCann?
Well, by reference to witness statements made to the Portuguese police by the close friends of the McCann's who were on holiday with them, the McCanns changed the way the left the apartment in the evenings. Instead of using the roadside door and licking it from the outside, they started locking the roadside door from the inside, and leaving their apartment by the sliding patio door on the poolside of the apartment! This meant that from Tuesday evening onward (1st May 2007) the McCanns started leaving their young children alone in the apartment because it was not possible to lock the sliding patio door on the outside..
Let's talk some more about this practice, because so far as the narrative goes, the McCanns only told Russell Co'Brien and Matt Oldfield that the patio door on the poolside of the apartment was unlocked when they supposedly volunteered to check on the McCann children, as well as their own at about 9.30pm!
The McCanns have lied about anyone knowing that they had left the sliding patio door unlocked falsely maintaining that nobody but them knew they had left that door unlocked until 9.30pm, as stated..
But it now becomes clear, that other group members knew from as early as the evening of 1st May 2007!
With this in mind, we can now say with a degree of certainty that the McCann parents, used the sliding unlocked patio door on the poolside of the apartment to leave and come and go as they pleased, on the evenings of Tuesday 1st, Wednesday 2nd and Thursday 3rd May 2007! To date, they have never given a satisfactory explanation for this change in the evening routine!
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Also, Fiona Payne describes in her witness statement that she gave to Leicestershire police, that she thought it strange the way that her friend kept checking on Amelie and Sean to make sure that they were both still breathing - this was both inside apartment 5A immediately after Madeleine was reported to be missing, and also later when the McCanns and their two siblings moved in with the Payne's next door overnight!
This was not the only thing which Fiona Payne had noticed as being strange! Since, she noted that despite all the noise and commotion going in all around them in apartment 5A in the immediate aftermath of Madeleine being reported as taken, that neither child became disturbed, that they had both slept all the way through all the upset of the situation?
I think that what Fiona Payne was getting at without so much as saying it directly was that she must have thought that the McCanns had given their children some sort of a tranquiliser, which would have made sense of Kate's behaviour, and the manner with which Amelie and Sean had slept through everything undisturbed!
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If we proceed, thus far, on the proviso that Madeleine died whilst attending the lobster creche, and that the creche nanny contacted one or other of the parents who were nearby, who quickly attended, and upon finding that Madeleine was not breathing and her heart had stopped beating, chances are that Gerry McCann took it upon himself to try to revive Madeleine, by initially giving her CPR, but as a last resort he may have attempted opening Madeleine's chest, separating her ribcage and trying to manually massage her heart in a last ditch attempt to bring her back to life!
If this happened at the creche, the creche nanny must have known about it, and for whatever reason she must not have phoned for the emergency services to attend because she was told by Gerry McCann that he was a heart surgeon, and that he could give his daughter the best prospect of survival by administering his skilled trade there and then insitu (possibly arguing that Madeleine might not survive the delay in the emergency services attending, and the trip of being taken to the nearest hospital to receive emergency treatment)!
All Gerry McCanns attempts to revive Madeleine failed, but that was not the end of the matter:-
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If we proceed, thus far, on the proviso that Madeleine died whilst attending the lobster creche, and that the creche nanny contacted one or other of the parents who were nearby, who quickly attended, and upon finding that Madeleine was not breathing and her heart had stopped beating, chances are that Gerry McCann took it upon himself to try to revive Madeleine, by initially giving her CPR, but as a last resort he may have attempted opening Madeleine's chest, separating her ribcage and trying to manually massage her heart in a last ditch attempt to bring her back to life!
If this happened at the creche, the creche nanny must have known about it, and for whatever reason she must not have phoned for the emergency services to attend because she was told by Gerry McCann that he was a heart surgeon, and that he could give his daughter the best prospect of survival by administering his skilled trade there and then insitu (possibly arguing that Madeleine might not survive the delay in the emergency services attending, and the trip of being taken to the nearest hospital to receive emergency treatment)!
All Gerry McCanns attempts to revive Madeleine failed, but that was not the end of the matter:-
In the aftermath of such a tragic event the McCanns faced being put under immediate investigation for the possible administering illegal drugs in the form of tranquilizer not only to Madeleine who had died quite possibly from a massive overdose, but that the McCanns other two siblings were also being administered by Kate McCann who was an aneathatist, with a very strong possibility that the two remaining children (Amelie and Sean) being taken off them, and the McCanns both being detained in custody in Portugal awaiting to be tried on a variety of criminal charges, including murder/manslaughter, neglect of duty, and other related matters! Both parents careers in the NHS would almost certainly have ended, etc, etc, etc...
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In order for any of this to be true, there would need to be supporting factors in favour of Madeleine not being seen alive, by any credible witness not under the due influence of the McCann parents, in particular, Gerry McCann!
In point of fact, there exists a number of creche registration log contents (lobster) which give cause for concern. Firstly an undated creche log, secondly the log contents dated Tuesday 1st May 2007, and thirdly, the contents of the creche log (lobsters), dated, Thursday 3rd May 2007! The contents of these three creche logs are not credible, because either, they are incomplete, or the times when and whom Madeline McCann supposedly went in, and was supposedly collected do not match the accounts given by the parents Gerry and Kate McCann...
A fourth creche register dated Wednesday , is rendered meaningless and unhelpful, if Madeleine had died at the creche (lobsters) at some point during the am session on Tuesday 1st May 2007 - as can be seen by examining the creche log for that date, nobody collected Madeleine from the creche, and the creche nanny did not take Madeleine to one or other of the McCann parents at any stage during the afternoon on that date? This was the very same afternoon when the toddlers had their sailing club activity (held every Tuesday each week)! Now, only six of Madeleine's group took part in the sailing club activity that afternoon, one of them was markedly absent! A member of the group who was down at the beach when the toddlers took part in their sailing activity on that date, made a witness statement to the police stating that she did not see Madeleine McCann participating in those sailing club activities, and so we can know with almost 100% certainty that Madeleine McCann was not amongst the six participant who took part!
This is extremely significant, because it is during this afternoon period that the lobster creche registration records only show that Gerry McCann dropped Madeleine off at the creche at 14.30hrs, but there is absolutely no record at all regarding what time she was picked up, or by whom?
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Something very serious must have happened after 14.30hrs when Gerry McCann dropped off Madeleine at the lobster creche at that time, and whatever occurred resulted in Madeleine McCann not going down to the beach with the other six members of her group that afternoon..
If we refer to whatever happened to Madeleine on this occasion as 'Incident X', for the purpose of simplification, there would have needed to be some form of communication between the creche nanny (at lobsters) and one or other, or both of the McCann parents! If Madeleine died as a result of 'Incident X', at the creche then it stands to reason that between themselves the McCann parents and the creche nanny colluded together to cover up what took place, possibly because of the repercussions that would have followed on, for all parties concerned!
Here are the seven group members that afternoon, Tuesday 1st May 2007, of which only six participated, in the sailing club activities at the beach, excluding Madeleine McCann:-
Madeleine McCann
Jessica Berry
Tia
Ella O'Brien
William
Elizabeth Naylor
Richard Nunn
I believe that it was Jane Tanner who told police that Madeleine had not attended the sailing club activity on the beach on Tuesday 1st May 2007, she only recognised the other six, in particular Russell O'Briens daughter, Ella!
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So, it goes without saying that something untoward almost certainly befell Madeleine McCann, after she arrived at Lobsters creche at 14.30hrs, in the company of Gerry McCann, on Tuesday 1st May 2007 and whatever it was ('Incident X') it was too awful for either the creche nanny or the McCann parents to talk about!
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So, it goes without saying that something untoward almost certainly befell Madeleine McCann, after she arrived at Lobsters creche at 14.30hrs, in the company of Gerry McCann, on Tuesday 1st May 2007 and whatever it was ('Incident X') it was too awful for either the creche nanny or the McCann parents to talk about!
Madeleine McCann was not abducted by anybody at all, least of all from the family apartment (5A) on Thursday 3rd May 2007- because it is my opinion that she died after attending the lobster creche in the company of Gerry McCann at 14.30 hrs two days previously! The contents of the lobster creche log dated Wednesday 2nd May, and Thursday 3rd May 2007 therefore being erroneously fabricated to lend some much needed weight to the claim that Madeleine McCann was still alive right up to just before 10pm inside apartment 5A, an attempt to bolster up a false narrative introduced by their friends and themselves to promote an abduction that be we took place!
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The Portuguese police, Leicestershire police, and the Metropolitan police have been wasting vast public resources pursuing imaginary abductors, when the truth is there in front of their eyes, if only they would take the time to look!
I believe the creche nanny who must be involved in all of this will be the first to break cover, and from then on in, expect fireworks, because, the McCanns and their friends had all better get ready to be exposed as charlotans, liars, and scoundrels!
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There are several alternative scenarios: https://youtu.be/pQgmtrOeDLM
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There are several alternative scenarios: https://youtu.be/pQgmtrOeDLM
Yes, I realise this, but the untimed lobster creche register on the afternoon session of 1st May 2007, and no details regarding handing Madeleine McCann over after her arrival at 14.30 hrs, seems to me to be a very telling indictment pertaining to how she was reported missing two days later at 10pm, on the 3rd May 2007. It was as if Madeleine turned up at the creche without leaving or being handed over to anyone, as if those involved did not want it to be shown that She had been handed back to the parents at any stage after 14.30hrs that day! In my opinion a huge red flag exists concerning that period (14.30hrs, onwards on Tuesday 1st May 2007) and which by 5.30pm Madeleine should have been collected or handed over to somebody, but she wasn't! It's as though she simply vanished off the face of the earth for half a day, until her details were added to the following creche register in the morning, handed back at lunch time, was received in the afternoon and was handed back at tea time (Wednesday 2nd May 2007), and the same procedure repeated over again on the day of her appearance (Thursday 3rd May 2007) - seems to me that the creche nanny may have played some part in falsely claiming that Madeleine McCann attended the lobster creche on Wednesday and Thursday, without Madeleine being present at all...
The nanny had something to do with Madeleine McCanns demise, I feel 100% certain about that / this in cahoots with the McCann parents and some tapas group members!
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Yes, I realise this, but the untimed lobster creche register on the afternoon session of 1st May 2007, and no details regarding handing Madeleine McCann over after her arrival at 14.30 hrs, seems to me to be a very telling indictment pertaining to how she was reported missing two days later at 10pm, on the 3rd May 2007. It was as if Madeleine turned up at the creche without leaving or being handed over to anyone, as if those involved did not want it to be shown that She had been handed back to the parents at any stage after 14.30hrs that day! In my opinion a huge red flag exists concerning that period (14.30hrs, onwards on Tuesday 1st May 2007) and which by 5.30pm Madeleine should have been collected or handed over to somebody, but she wasn't! It's as though she simply vanished off the face of the earth for half a day, until her details were added to the following creche register in the morning, handed back at lunch time, was received in the afternoon and was handed back at tea time (Wednesday 2nd May 2007), and the same procedure repeated over again on the day of her appearance (Thursday 3rd May 2007) - seems to me that the creche nanny may have played some part in falsely claiming that Madeleine McCann attended the lobster creche on Wednesday and Thursday, without Madeleine being present at all...
The nanny had something to do with Madeleine McCanns demise, I feel 100% certain about that / this in cahoots with the McCann parents and some tapas group members!
Moreover, I feel certain that Madeleine must have died at the creche, that Turpesday afternoon, she didn't die in apartment 5A at all, the real crime scene was at the creche (lobsters). I know with 100% certainty that what I am saying was / is true...
The nanny 'Cat' was in on it, the only thing I am not certain about is the precise moment in time, when Madeleine's body was removed from the creche, and whether or not, Madeleine's body was taken back to apartment 5A first, or if her remains were taken directly from the lobster creche area to be disposed of in the hollow and hole in the rear garden of the derelict building - I know with 100% certainty, that whichever way it was done, that Gerry McCanns sports holdall was used in the removal process, from one place (lobster creche) to another (apartment 5A), or then to the other (the derelict building across the street from the village church located down close to the beach)!
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My gut instinct is telling me, that it would not have made any sense to return Madeleines body back to the apartment because there was not sufficient cold stage space to conceal the dead body of a child for two days, or so (I know this because I went to the resort in 2010 and stayed in an apartment across the road from where the McCann circus stayed. Our room, was an exact carbon copy of their apartment (5A) with the exception that on the patio door on the poolside of our apartment, we did not have a series of concrete steps leading into the street. But the cooker, washer, microwave, washing machine and bathroom facilities were both identical!
I know that several weeks later that the cadaver and blood hounds signalled that a dead body may have been present at particular positions inside apartment 5A, and the hired Renault Scenic, but there's no way of differentiating whether or not those odours got there in all of these places from a body being physically insitu at some point, or whether or not the odours in question got transferred there from the clothing worn by the McCanns who had been in direct or indirect contact with the deceased body of Madeleine?
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My gut instinct is telling me, that it would not have made any sense to return Madeleines body back to the apartment because there was not sufficient cold stage space to conceal the dead body of a child for two days, or so (I know this because I went to the resort in 2010 and stayed in an apartment across the road from where the McCann circus stayed. Our room, was an exact carbon copy of their apartment (5A) with the exception that on the patio door on the poolside of our apartment, we did not have a series of concrete steps leading into the street. But the cooker, washer, microwave, washing machine and bathroom facilities were both identical!
I know that several weeks later that the cadaver and blood hounds signalled that a dead body may have been present at particular positions inside apartment 5A, and the hired Renault Scenic, but there's no way of differentiating whether or not those odours got there in all of these places from a body being physically insitu at some point, or whether or not the odours in question got transferred there from the clothing worn by the McCanns who had been in direct or indirect contact with the deceased body of Madeleine?
I believe that I am right in saying that the only cold storage space in which to conceal the body of a young child was located close to the first floor room that was being used as the lobster creche, but certainly not to far away from the main reception beneath the creche!
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Madeleines body was not transferred from apartment 5a to the derelict building, it was transported there from the vicinity of the lobster creche, concealed in the missing sports holdall belonging to Gerry McCann!
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Madeleines body was not transferred from apartment 5a to the derelict building, it was transported there from the vicinity of the lobster creche, concealed in the missing sports holdall belonging to Gerry McCann!
For the past 11 years or more, the cops have been treating the wrong place as the crime scene! It was almost certainly not apartment 5A, but rather the lobster creche, and the main reception area beneath it!
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It would have been too risky to take Madeleine's body back to apartment 5A, and retain it there for a couple of days, because of the cleaners who enter each apartment on a daily basis - so Madeleine's body had to be concealed somewhere else close to the lobster creche and or the main reception area beneath it between the afternoon of 1st May 2007 at 14.30 hrs, and the 3rd May 2007!
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Careful analysis of the lobster creche register dated 1st May 2007 reveals some significant clues surrounding Madeleine's possible demise - for example she was deposited at the creche at Lobsters by Gerry McCann at 14.30hrs. He left his mobile telephone number so that the nanny could contact him in the event of an emergency involving Madeleine McCann!
Madeleine was not booked out of the group that afternoon (which was the day of the week that the toddlers went on a sailing club adventure, minus Madeleine!
No official reason or explanation has been offered to account for her absence at the sailing club that day!
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Based on the information above, contained in the lobster creche register, dated 1st May 2007, was an 8th group member (I Carpenter), but someone has struck the name and contact details out, but this child arrived at Lobsters creche some 10 minutes after Madeleine ( 2.40pm). Rather somewhat bizarrely, this child was also never signed out of the creche or handed over by the Nanny to anyone!
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Based on the information above, contained in the lobster creche register, dated 1st May 2007, was an 8th group member (I Carpenter), but someone has struck the name and contact details out, but this child arrived at Lobsters creche some 10 minutes after Madeleine ( 2.40pm). Rather somewhat bizarrely, this child was also never signed out of the creche or handed over by the Nanny to anyone!
Two of the 8 group members who attended the lobster creche that afternoon, not only never got signed out of the creche, or were collected by anybody, also both had not gone to the sailing club activity that afternoon!
The Carpenter child and Madeleine McCann stayed behind at the lobster creche, for one reason or another?
This leads me to conclude for the possibility that there was some kind of conflict involving these two children, and that Maddie died as a result of that conflict, but that the Carpenter child must have survived! This is the scene that I have set in my mind's eye! Some sort of conflict between the two children, ending in the death of Madeleine McCann, and the survival of the Carpenter child!
This brings me to the conclusion, that there is some sort of a significant link between the two children!
An attempt was made to strike out the Carpenter child from the register in an attempt to try and conceal what had taken place! The nanny was able to strike the Carpenter child from the creche register because she did not die as a result of the incident involving Madeleine McCann, but in Madeleine's case, she died and because she had died there at the lobster creche, the nanny couldn't strike out Madeleine McCanns details, they just couldn't sign her out, or officially be seen to be handing Madeleine over to the McCanns because she had died at the creche soon after arriving there with Gerry McCann at 14.30hrs, some 10 minutes prior the Carpenter child who was dropped at the creche at 2.40pm...
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I am also mindful, that the last two entries contained in the lobster creche register (after the Carpenter child has been struck out) are entered out of sequence in the 'time in' column! These two entries relate to Elizabeth Naylor who was signed in at 2.30pm, and Richard Nunn, who was signed in at 2.pm...
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According to the contents of a witness statement made by the creche nanny known by the nickname 'CAT', she states that the creche registers are filled in on separate sheets of a register, morning session details on one sheet, and the afternoon sessions recorded on a separate sheet!
But, in the registers seized by the police, the morning and the afternoon sheets are filled in on the same register sheet..
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I think the child was stolen/trafficked to order. These monstrous people can earn thousands in stealing a child and usually work in 3's and with a vehicle of course. Hundreds of children have vanished this way and are taken to camps across Europe one of which was Farsala in Romania where these small children are then groomed to work to earn money in order to fund their " bosses " who then build properties outside the area of the camps.
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I think the child was stolen/trafficked to order. These monstrous people can earn thousands in stealing a child and usually work in 3's and with a vehicle of course. Hundreds of children have vanished this way and are taken to camps across Europe one of which was Farsala in Romania where these small children are then groomed to work to earn money in order to fund their " bosses " who then build properties outside the area of the camps.
That's interesting Lookout, but I fear that Madeleine McCann is dead, and the parents know she is dead..
I'm as certain as I could possibly be that the Portuguese police got it right by treating the parents as guilters, in the same way I feel that the Metropolitan police have made a rod for their own backs, by treating the parents as though the had not done anything wrong and that they did not kill their daughter and get rid of her body...
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Another thing that I find to be very interesting, is that the crèche nanny who appears to be the one who supposedly dealt with Madeleine all week, from the 29th April to the 3rd May 2007, but she is getting her facts all mixed up, because the sailing club activity took place every Tuesday afternoon, which fell on the 1st May 2007, whereas, she places this as having occurred on Thursday 3rd May 2007, the day of Madeleine's reported disappearance, as do the McCann parents...
It seems like a clear case to me, of the crèche nanny and the McCann parents being guilty of narrative building, where all parties are singing from the same hymn sheet, but the song they are singing is absolutely being sang at the wrong tune!
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Another thing that I find to be very interesting, is that the crèche nanny who appears to be the one who supposedly dealt with Madeleine all week, from the 29th April to the 3rd May 2007, but she is getting her facts all mixed up, because the sailing club activity took place every Tuesday afternoon, which fell on the 1st May 2007, whereas, she places this as having occurred on Thursday 3rd May 2007, the day of Madeleine's reported disappearance, as do the McCann parents...
It seems like a clear case to me, of the crèche nanny and the McCann parents being guilty of narrative building, where all parties are singing from the same hymn sheet, but the song they are singing is absolutely being sang at the wrong tune!
Then of course, the crèche nanny lived in the UK!
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Then of course, the crèche nanny lived in the UK!
Yes she lives in Leatherhead. Given the mistake the McCanns made of not leaving their children with the various childminding clubs for the whole evening I can't see any collusion going on; in fact all I see is confusion. http://madeleinemccann.org/blog/2014/04/20/charlotte-pennington/
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That's interesting Lookout, but I fear that Madeleine McCann is dead, and the parents know she is dead..
I'm as certain as I could possibly be that the Portuguese police got it right by treating the parents as guilters, in the same way I feel that the Metropolitan police have made a rod for their own backs, by treating the parents as though the had not done anything wrong and that they did not kill their daughter and get rid of her body...
So many questions remain unexplained though. https://youtu.be/RaLZ6vf0Ybc
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Yes she lives in Leatherhead. Given the mistake the McCanns made of not leaving their children with the various childminding clubs for the whole evening I can't see any collusion going on; in fact all I see is confusion. http://madeleinemccann.org/blog/2014/04/20/charlotte-pennington/
Steve-uk, and what can you tell me of one of the crèche nanny's that was named as 'Pauline McCann' who worked as a nanny in one or more of the creches that Madeleine and Amelie and Sean attended?
Are the McCann parents and their siblings related to this McCann Nanny?
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Yes she lives in Leatherhead. Given the mistake the McCanns made of not leaving their children with the various childminding clubs for the whole evening I can't see any collusion going on; in fact all I see is confusion. http://madeleinemccann.org/blog/2014/04/20/charlotte-pennington/
Unfortunately, for the McCann parents, and the dodgy Nanny's involvement, it amounts to more than confusion, when it boils down to the catelog of errors, contradictions, inconsistencies, irregularities, and the like!
The truth in the matter is that when people are telling the truth, there is simply no room for error, or as you put it, for confusion to raise its ugly head!
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Between the lot of them, they can't even agree when the sailing boat activity took place down at the beach - it was only done on every Tuesday afternoon of each week, or it occurred on the Wednesday and the Thursday afternoon!
Crikey, this lot want their cake, and they want to eat it all!!!
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Steve-uk, and what can you tell me of one of the crèche baby's that was nsmedas 'Pauline McCann' who worked as a nanny in one or more of the creches that Madeleine and Amelie and Sean attended?
Are the McCann parents and their siblings related to this McCann Nanny?
Well I can't make head or tail of this case. I'm wondering whether there is someone trying to diffuse guilt but never localize it. http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAULINE-MCCANN.htm
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I have my own suspicions, my own scenario, but I might be committing a grave injustice to the individual concerned.
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I believe that Madeleine died before the 3rd May 2007, and that she may have come to harm at the lobster crèche soon after being signed in at 14.30hrs on 1st May 2007, by Gerry McCann and that it was linked to the attendance of another child member (Izzy Carpenter) who arrived at the same creche 10 minutes later, and ...
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Madeleine McCann and Izzy Carpenter did not attend the sail boat activity on the beach that Tuesday (1st May 2007) afternoon, but the other six members of the group who signed in that afternoon, all did (two boats with three children in each boat)...
Which two children of the eight who signed in that afternoon, did not attend that sail boat activity that same afternoon?
None other than (1) - Madeleine McCann, and (2) - Izzy Carpenter...
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Madeleine McCann and Izzy Carpenter did not attend the sail boat activity on the beach that Tuesday (1st May 2007) afternoon, but the other six members of the group who signed in that afternoon, all did (two boats with three children in each boat)...
Which two children of the eight who signed in that afternoon, did not attend that sail boat activity that same afternoon?
None other than (1) - Madeleine McCann, and (2) - Izzy Carpenter...
This needs investigating by the police!
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The lobster crèche register entries, dated am 2nd May, pm 2nd May, am 3rd May and pm 3rd May 2007 are false records, introduced as part of the narrative to fool the public at large into accepting that Madeleine McCann was alive longer than she could have been?
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If she had died by means of some accident earlier in the day or even earlier in the week I don't see why the McCanns wouldn't just take her to the nearest hospital. I'm not sure what the conspiracy is in this case. https://youtu.be/XL_QIt-unBs
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The lobster crèche register entries, dated am 2nd May, pm 2nd May, am 3rd May and pm 3rd May 2007 are false records, introduced as part of the narrative to fool the public at large into accepting that Madeleine McCann was alive longer than she could have been?
Involved in the narrative building in different sequences of the overall abduction tale, were the McFlies, at least one crèche nanny, David Payne, Fiona Payne, Mat Oldfield, Russel O'Brien, Jane Tanner, Robert Murat, Serge Malinka, and possibly others...
Now, before anyone jumps the gun, and starts claiming that with so many bit part players involved in the narrative building of the tale, and that it would have been nigh on impossible to keep a lid on the truth for so long, my response is that the preverbial lid couldn't have remained intact for over the 11 years or so since this tragic event had taken place, is open, the lie of the truth is that the narrative as spoken about by the main players and the bit part players does not accord with known about and proven facts - there exists a plethora of conflicting accounts given by all concerned designed to misinform the general public at large about when Madeleine McCann had last been seen alive? There is no credible evidence or proof that anyone outside the circle of the McFlies confirms that Madeleine was still alive at any stage realistically after 14.30hrs on Tuesday 1st May 2007 when Gerry McFly took her to the lobster crèche - according to the crèche nanny, there existed two separate crèche registers per day (am and pm), but the ones seized by the police tell a different tale! How could the crèche nanny be so confoundedly wrong when she was responsible for creating the registers concerned? There was only (on the face of it) one crèche register per day, where the morning and afternoon crèche sessions were recorded on the same page/sheet? How could anyone trust a crèche nanny to look after more than one child at a time, when the nanny in question doesn't appear to be able to count beyond the no.1?
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Involved in the narrative building in different sequences of the overall abduction tale, were the McFlies, at least one crèche nanny, David Payne, Fiona Payne, Mat Oldfield, Russel O'Brien, Jane Tanner, Robert Murat, Serge Malinka, and possibly others...
Now, before anyone jumps the gun, and starts claiming that with so many bit part players involved in the narrative building of the tale, and that it would have been nigh on impossible to keep a lid on the truth for so long, my response is that the preverbial lid couldn't have remained intact for over the 11 years or so since this tragic event had taken place, is open, the lie of the truth is that the narrative as spoken about by the main players and the bit part players does not accord with known about and proven facts - there exists a plethora of conflicting accounts given by all concerned designed to misinform the general public at large about when Madeleine McCann had last been seen alive? There is no credible evidence or proof that anyone outside the circle of the McFlies confirms that Madeleine was still alive at any stage realistically after 14.30hrs on Tuesday 1st May 2007 when Gerry McFly took her to the lobster crèche - according to the crèche nanny, there existed two separate crèche registers per day (am and pm), but the ones seized by the police tell a different tale! How could the crèche nanny be so confoundedly wrong when she was responsible for creating the registers concerned? There was only (on the face of it) one crèche register per day, where the morning and afternoon crèche sessions were recorded on the same page/sheet? How could anyone trust a crèche nanny to look after more than one child at a time, when the nanny in question doesn't appear to be able to count beyond the no.1?
With the crèche nanny (CATuk) unable to function or calculate beyond the number 1, who can't differentiate the difference between 2 and 1, what chance has she got of expecting anyone to believe that after 14.30hrs on 1st May 2007, that she saw Madeleine McCann on no less than 5 separate occasions (pm on 1st, am and pm on the 2nd, and am and pm on the 3rd May 2007)?
Her evidence is not credible!
She was transferred from working in the crèche at Warner soon after the McCann fiasco to another resort. .
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Maddie gets the American treatment: https://youtu.be/xHcwTx3DgDc
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If she had died by means of some accident earlier in the day or even earlier in the week I don't see why the McCanns wouldn't just take her to the nearest hospital. I'm not sure what the conspiracy is in this case. https://youtu.be/XL_QIt-unBs
There's no conspiracy----the child was stolen.
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There's no conspiracy----the child was stolen.
Do you think it was a planned abduction lookout and if so wouldn't the girl have been discovered by now?
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Do you think it was a planned abduction lookout and if so wouldn't the girl have been discovered by now?
It seemed to have been as there were too many coincidences such as knowing where the parents and friends were, leaving the children unattended. Also knowing that the night out would be the last before leaving for the UK next day.
The area itself appeared dodgy with everyone seemingly knowing who was coming and going as well as an unnatural focus on children as being " child-friendly " an advertising magnet for paedophiles in the area. The McCanns were sitting ducks I'm afraid.
It was enough for me when I read about the children's home, the Casa Pia ( I think it was ) where all and sundry used to congregate.
I think Madeleine was stolen to order.
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It seemed to have been as there were too many coincidences such as knowing where the parents and friends were, leaving the children unattended. Also knowing that the night out would be the last before leaving for the UK next day.
The area itself appeared dodgy with everyone seemingly knowing who was coming and going as well as an unnatural focus on children as being " child-friendly " an advertising magnet for paedophiles in the area. The McCanns were sitting ducks I'm afraid.
It was enough for me when I read about the children's home, the Casa Pia ( I think it was ) where all and sundry used to congregate.
I think Madeleine was stolen to order.
But this is a sleepy seaside town of 3545 inhabitants (Wikipedia) where as you say everyone knows people's business, so more likely for a stranger to stand out. I can't help but feel that Robert Murat (allegedly) had become unhinged due to the separation from his wife, he sees a successful couple with a daughter reminding him very much of his own, whom he no longer sees, and maybe out of jealousy or spite snatches her, dumps her body in one of the container bins, then mingles with the crowd to gauge reaction and alleviate suspicion.
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There's no conspiracy----the child was stolen.
Unfortunately, there is absolutely no evidence that anybody stole the deceased body of a little child, who in their right mind would contemplate such a horrible deed. But getting rid of the child's body because of the consequences it would have brought to the parents, in terms of their careers, and remaining family unit, not to mention any linked criminal proceedings that could have been brought against them, and anyone who has assisted them in their narrative, does not bode well for the lot of them!
At least 80% of the public believe that the McFly parents had something to do with Madeleine McCann's disappearence, the actual figure could be as high, if not more than 90%..
Let's look at the hard facts surrounding the supposed 'last high tea, involving Madeleine McCann on the afternoon of 3rd May 2007! In her book, 'MADELEINE', in her own words, Kate returned from her run that afternoon, to find that Gerry, and Amelie, Sean and Madeleine, had all already started their tea's when Kate turned up!
Yet, according to the contents of the lobster crèche register, recorded that last afternoon (3rd May 2007), Kate had collected Madeleine at 17.30 hrs, and before that had at 17.25hrs also collected Amelie and Sean from the Jellyfish creche which was located right next door to where high tea was already being served.by 5.30pm...
Yet, how could all this possibly be true, if as Kate McFly states in her book, that When she returned from her run that afternoon, she went to the tappas and found that Gerry, Amelie, Sean and Madeleine were already there, and that they had all already started their tea's!
Well, I'm sorry, but Kate McFly is full of shit!
If the occasion when she had returned from her run had been the very last time she had enjoyed high tea in the company ofjer husband, and all three siblings you would not forget the fact that you had collected Amelie and Sean from the Jellyfish creche at 17…25hrs, then dashed all the way down to the lobsters crèche 5 minutes later at 17.30hrs to collect Madeleine, and sign both registers which are kept at each of the two separate creches, if by the time you had returned from your run to the tapas bar at 17.30hrs, you arrived there to find your husband already there, with your three siblings, all having already started eating their tea's, before you had arrived there!
Kate McFly is a pathological liar!
You couldn't get such basic facts relating to the last meal you had enjoyed together some four and a half hours, before you were claiming you had discovered Madeleine had supposedly been taken (by 10pm, that same evening) In some far fetched narrative involving at least two abductors, not one - based on her blurting out 'they've taken her, they've taken her, Madeleine is gone' when she returned to the tapas restaurant and bar!
No jury in the land would believe the highly significant and glaring inconsistencies produced in this matter, as proof that Madeleine McCann had even enjoyed High tea on that last afternoon, let alone have supposedly returned to the McFly apartment, where Kate bathed and dressed all three siblings ready for bed, accompanied by a treat of crisps and bedtime stories before all three children were put to bed, and all three were sound asleep by 8.30pm...
It's all a pack of lies!
Let the McFly parents and the other tapas mob members take a lie detector test - as inch a course
Of action is guaranteed to sort this bullshit abduction out, once and for all!
They all know that Madeleine died, and that the McFly entuorage disposed of her remains because they knew that with Madies death being treated as a suspicious death that there would have to be an autopsy /post mortem, and that the parents and other adult gang members would be held accountable for markings on her body and drugs in her blood and urine!
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This presupposes a lot of lies, from nanny Charlotte Pennington to the Tapas 7 who are not going to jeopardize their careers to help Gerry and Kate, who were newcomers to the group. I can't ever see a mother drugging her children, and of course if Gerry does bring tranquillizers through hand luggage or hold baggage he is at risk of being stopped by customs.
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No parent faced with the unexpected loss of a sibling matching those in the McFly narrative would forget every last detail of the last day they had spent with that child!
But...
Not the McFlies, they simply couldn't get basic facts right about who did what, when and how in their narratives!
Give them all a lie detector test, I guarantee none of them will pass it with flying colours!
The only thing of any note and colour that is bound to crop up in all of this, are red flags. Signalling the fact that what they are saying simply cannot be true! Madeleine had visible Marks on her arm as shown in a photograph taken after she arrived on holiday in Portugal - her death was always going to raise questions, by long before any tranquilizing sedative might have been administered, or she had supposedly been taken!
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This presupposes a lot of lies, from nanny Charlotte Pennington to the Tapas 7 who are not going to jeopardize their careers to help Gerry and Kate, who were newcomers to the group. I can't ever see a mother drugging her children, and of course if Gerry does bring tranquillizers through hand luggage or hold baggage he is at risk of being stopped by customs.
That presupposes that the McFlies brought the tranquilizing sedative through customs themselves, or obtained them by other means after they arrived in Portugal - but what if the McFlies obtained the tranquilizing sedatives from either David Payne, Russell O'Brien, Matt Oldfield, Jane Tanner, or one of the other group members?
In those circumstances, the overdosing of a little girl or two during that holiday period would have had dire consequences for more than the McFly parents, it was potentially a significant problem for the whole group as a whole!
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That presupposes that the McFlies brought the tranquilizing sedative through customs themselves, or obtained them by other means after they arrived in Portugal - but what if the McFlies obtained the tranquilizing sedatives from either David Payne, Russell O'Brien, Matt Oldfield, Jane Tanner, or one of the other group members?
In those circumstances, the overdosing of a little girl or two during that holiday period would have had dire consequences for more than the McFly parents, it was potentially a significant problem for the whole group as a whole!
For this reason, there would surely have arisen some support from eachother to try to ensure that the illicit misuse of tranquilizing sedatives on the children in the group belonging to adult members was worth telling a lie or two..
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That presupposes that the McFlies brought the tranquilizing sedative through customs themselves, or obtained them by other means after they arrived in Portugal - but what if the McFlies obtained the tranquilizing sedatives from either David Payne, Russell O'Brien, Matt Oldfield, Jane Tanner, or one of the other group members?
In those circumstances, the overdosing of a little girl or two during that holiday period would have had dire consequences for more than the McFly parents, it was potentially a significant problem for the whole group as a whole!
But there was a babysitting service available, which the doctors as a group were remiss in not availing themselves of. They let their guard down on holiday after the stressful hospital environment of home, thinking that off-season there would be no risk to their offspring.
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I find it very interesting that one of the other children belonging to the group was also taken ill on the very same evening that the narrative regarding Madeleine McCann's disappearence was set into motion?
Why didn't the parents of the 'other' sick child call out the emergency services to deal with the second sick child?
Maybe people should start asking questions about that, and maybe Madeleine had a far worse reaction than the other little girl? There is also the matter of one of the adult group members being taken ill around Tuesday 1st May 2007, which got put down to a bug which had been picked up on the flight inbound...
It's possible that all these three incidents are related (1) the death of Madeleine McCann on Tuesday 1st May 2007, together with (2) the stomach bug claim of one of the adult tapas bar members on the very same date, followed by (3) the second little girl who fell ill on the evening of 3rd May 2007, the one whom Jane Tanner and Russell O'Brien looked after?
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I find it very interesting that one of the other children belonging to the group was also taken ill on the very same evening that the narrative regarding Madeleine McCann's disappearence was set into motion?
Why didn't the parents of the 'other' sick child call out the emergency services to deal with the second sick child?
Maybe people should start asking questions about that, and maybe Madeleine had a far worse reaction than the other little girl? There is also the matter of one of the adult group members being taken ill around Tuesday 1st May 2007, which got put down to a bug which had been picked up on the flight inbound...
It's possible that all these three incidents are related (1) the death of Madeleine McCann on Tuesday 1st May 2007, together with (2) the stomach bug claim of one of the adult tapas bar members on the very same date, followed by (3) the second little girl who fell ill on the evening of 3rd May 2007, the one whom Jane Tanner and Russell O'Brien looked after?
Well as doctors I presume they thought they could diagnose it themselves.
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I find it very interesting that one of the other children belonging to the group was also taken ill on the very same evening that the narrative regarding Madeleine McCann's disappearence was set into motion?
Why didn't the parents of the 'other' sick child call out the emergency services to deal with the second sick child?
Maybe people should start asking questions about that, and maybe Madeleine had a far worse reaction than the other little girl? There is also the matter of one of the adult group members being taken ill around Tuesday 1st May 2007, which got put down to a bug which had been picked up on the flight inbound...
It's possible that all these three incidents are related (1) the death of Madeleine McCann on Tuesday 1st May 2007, together with (2) the stomach bug claim of one of the adult tapas bar members on the very same date, followed by (3) the second little girl who fell ill on the evening of 3rd May 2007, the one whom Jane Tanner and Russell O'Brien looked after?
What if the second home alone sick little girl had become ill two days earlier, on the date that Madeleine McCann purportedly had died whilst attending the crèche at 14.30hrs on Tuesday 1st May 2007 (and was subsequently, not signed out)?
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Well as doctors I presume they thought they could diagnose it themselves.
You don't call emergency services every time your child is sick. Parents know their children, doctors or not, they know when seating is serious.
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Well as doctors I presume they thought they could diagnose it themselves.
Which is why they set out to support one another, using the narrative of a possible abduction! They took risks that they were not professionally, or ethically entitled to do on their own children, and with eacothers children when on holiday in a foreign country..
What they were doing, sedating eachothers children, or their own children, was morally and unethical in principle - this is the underlying principle behind them all sticking together...
Independent medical advice should have been sought in the cases of the Russel O'Brien child falling sick, in the same way that the McFlies should have got Madeleine treatment for her sleepless nights which the parents were aware of, but hadn't bothered to do...
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Matt Oldfield and Russell O'Brien, doing the supposed 9.30pm check of their own children, as well as the McCanns children, and the way this particular check came about, and was executed, including the running back and the to and froing of Jane Tanner, between her apartment and the tapas restaurant on the evening of Thursday 3rd May 2007- she it was and is the person who's account introduces the idea of a possible abductor in the narrative which the McFlies have expanded upon! She saw the abductor carrying off Madeleine in his arms across the top of the Street in his arms whilst at the very same time she saw Gerry McCann stood talking to Jez on the right hand side of the same street..
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You don't call emergency services every time your child is sick. Parents know their children, doctors or not, they know when seating is serious.
Maybe that part is true, but by the same token as a parent on holiday in a foreign country you don't go administering tranquilizing sedatives ( if you are a doctor) to your own children, or the children of those you are holidaying with, surely it's immoral, unethical and fraught with problems if or should something go wrong?
That's what I believe happened in this particular case, they were all self sedating their own kids, and possibly eachothers kids, and in Madeleine's case it turned into a total disaster, not helped because the sedative may have been obtained from one of the other adult members of their group! Hence, why Madeleine's subsequent death became problematic to all the group!
I truly believe that this was not simply a problem of the families leaving their children home alone of an evening whilst they whined and dined eachother, out and about, but that they were individually or collectively sedating their own, and eachothers children...
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If this was the case, or if this had been the case, then of course if Madeleine had died as a result of these practices, and Russell O'Briens daughter also almost became the second victim of these practices, then of course all these doctors would stick together, and back eachother up, in a false narrative, which is precisely why they have done! Bent doctors and surgeons sticking together in the face of adversity, in the very same way bent coppers, and the CPS do...
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There are several tentative links between Madeleine McCanns disappearance, and Jane Tanner's behaviour and her account involving the man she claims she saw who was carrying Madeleine off, the village church, and the derelict building and it's grounds at the rear, a hollow with a hole dug suffient to conceal a body, and a tube of insecticide, 'BAYGON' and it's advertising campaign and advert...
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There are several tentative links between Madeleine McCanns disappearance, and Jane Tanner's behaviour and her account involving the man she claims she saw who was carrying Madeleine off, the village church, and the derelict building and it's grounds at the rear, a hollow with a hole dug suffient to conceal a body, and a tube of insecticide, 'BAYGON' and it's advertising campaign and advert...
Let's start with Madeleine McCanns disappearance!
I believe the narrative explanation offered by Jane Tanner regarding the sighting of a man carrying a child in his arms across the top of the street close to where her parents are claiming that Madeleine was abducted from is likely to be a hoax!
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Let's start with Madeleine McCanns disappearance!
I believe the narrative explanation offered by Jane Tanner regarding the sighting of a man carrying a child in his arms across the top of the street close to where her parents are claiming that Madeleine was abducted from is likely to be a hoax!
I believe this to be nothing more than a red herring, that has been deliberately introduced for the purpose of trying to deflect suspicion from the McFly parents and the group's practices of self-administering tranquiliser sedatives to their children and adopted by other members of the group to their children, and to other children of group members, which by the evening of Thursday 3rd May 2007 had resulted in the death of Madeleine McCann, and near death experience of Russell O'Brien's daughter who may well have been the victim of self -administering of the same sedative!
In this respect, as of and by the evening of Thursday 3rd May 2007, there was a common interest between the McFly and the O'Brien/Tanner family units, I believe because of the use on their children of sedatives, which by that stage had resulted in the death of Madeleine McCann, and quite possibly the near death experience of Russell O'Briens daughter! I believe that the self-checking routines adopted by members of the tapas group on that evening which took place on the evening of Thursday 3rd May 2007, was introduced as part of an elaborate plan to try and deflect attention away from the responsibility of the parents into the cause of Madeleine's death, and the near death experience of the O'Brien child...
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By the evening of Thursday 3rd May 2007, time was beginning to run out for the McFlies, because on the following day (they were due to fly out of Portugal back to the UK). Bit by bit the seconds, minutes and hours which passed brought them closer and closer to the inevitable point of reporting Madeleine as a missing person / child had to be dealt with!
How were the McFly parents going to try and get away with potentially causing their daughters death?
Alone, it would have been nigh on impossible to pull such a deception off. But supported by several colleagues they settled for an abduction scenario!
Otherwise, the McFlies were done for, they were toast...
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By the evening of Thursday 3rd May 2007, time was beginning to run out for the McFlies, because on the following day (they were due to fly out of Portugal back to the UK). Bit by bit the seconds, minutes and hours which passed brought them closer and closer to the inevitable point of reporting Madeleine as a missing person / child had to be dealt with!
How were the McFly parents going to try and get away with potentially causing their daughters death?
Alone, it would have been nigh on impossible to pull such a deception off. But supported by several colleagues they settled for an abduction scenario!
Otherwise, the McFlies were done for, they were toast...
They settled for the abduction narrative because there was a good chance that their daughters death (if discovered) might be put down to the actions of the would be abductor, and not the McFly parents, and those who helped them...
What better story could the McFlies introduce than the one of an abduction scenario, claiming that by 8.30pm on that last evening, all the McFly siblings, all three of them were snugly tucked up in bed, and that within the next half an hour or so, Gerry McFly himself had returned to the family apartment to do a personal check on the three siblings, his visit designed to leave a lasting impression in the minds of the police and the general public at large, that Madeleine had been safe and out of harm's way by the time of Gerry McCanns visit at around 9.05pm...
What a truly remarkable coincidence, that Russell O'Brien's daughter, was supposedly taken ill on this very same night, and that Jane Tanner should be returning to check on O'Briens daughter, and she claims to see Madeleine McCanns abductor carrying off Madeleine whilst Gerry McCann is stood talking to his friend Jez in the street somewhere between Jane Tanner's position in the street, and the would be abductor walking across the roadside junction with Madeleine in his arms...
Then, at 9.30pm, Matt Oldfield and Russell O'Brien offer to check on the McFly siblings to save their legs which is readily agreed to, Kate McFly informing Oldfield and O'Brien that the patio door on the pool side of the apartment was open, and unlocked, suggesting that they could enter the McFlies apartment 5A whilst doing their check...
Russell O'Brien - who's daughter was close to death inside his own apartment, checking on the three McFly siblings about half an hour before Kate eventually goes to her apartment and discovers Madeleine to be gone!
I mean, what s truly remarkable sequence of the alleged events, which had purportedly unraveled at the apartment block, and back and forth between the tapas restaurant between 8.30pm and 10pm...
The McFlies, Madeleine, Russell O'Brien, his sick daughter, Jane Tanner and the abductor carrying off Madeleine's body, and the coup de grace, the point at which Kate McFly sets the scene for Madeleine's perceived abduction narrative, 'they've taken her, they've taken her' and 'Madeleines gone', she blurted out as she ran back to the tapas bar restaurant, and leaving the other two little siblings back at apartment 5A, steel window shutter raised, bedroom window slid open and curtains flailing, both vulnerable and exposed at the mercy of 'THEM'...
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I am sorry but the whole darn narrative from start to finish seems so contrived and false!
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'They've taken her, they've taken her' and 'Madeleine is gone', Kate McFly blurted out upon her imminent return of herself back at the tapas restaurant, as though she had personal knowledge of the persons who had taken, and removed Madeleine's body!
Matt Oldfield? Russell O'Brien?, David Payne?, Jane Tanner?
'Yes' Madeleine's body had been taken from apartment 5A, her body was taken, it was no longer there by the time Kate McFly returned to the apartment at around 10pm...
Her 'dead body' was gone, forever, never to be seen, ever again, 'Alive, alive, oh'!
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'They've taken her, they've taken her' and 'Madeleine is gone', Kate McFly blurted out upon her imminent return of herself back at the tapas restaurant, as though she had personal knowledge of the persons who had taken, and removed Madeleine's body!
Matt Oldfield? Russell O'Brien?, David Payne?, Jane Tanner?
'Yes' Madeleine's body had been taken from apartment 5A, her body was taken, it was no longer there by the time Kate McFly returned to the apartment at around 10pm...
Her 'dead body' was gone, forever, never to be seen, ever again, 'Alive, alive, oh'!
Let's approach this matter from a different perspective!
At 8.30pm, on that Thursday 3rd May 2007, Madeleine's body was still somewhere inside apartment 5A, again, if we are to believe Gerry McFlies account that he had physically visited the bedroom inwhich he claimed that Madeleines body had been present around 9.05pm, that same night....
Here, either Madeleine's body was there inside apartment 5A, or it wasn't at 8.30pm, and again at around 9.05am - I am prepared to accept, that Madeleine's remains had been present inside their apartment when the McFlies left 5A to go to the tapas restaurant, and again, by 9.05 am, when Gerry McFly went back to the family apartment to comply with his say so, that Madeleine was still present and still very much alive by that time - but sadly I have to report that if her body had been there, that her spirit was not!
It is my belief, that when Kate McFly went to check on the siblings back inside apartment 5A, at around 10pm knowing or believing that Madeleines body had already been removed and taken from there by either Matt Oldfield, Russell O'Brien, Jane Tanner, and or David Payne, who had all shown a willingness to help the McFlies with the alleged abduction narrative..
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Let's approach this matter from a different perspective!
At 8.30pm, on that Thursday 3rd May 2007, Madeleine's body was still somewhere inside apartment 5A, again, if we are to believe Gerry McFlies account that he had physically visited the bedroom inwhich he claimed that Madeleines body had been present around 9.05pm, that same night....
Here, either Madeleine's body was there inside apartment 5A, or it wasn't at 8.30pm, and again at around 9.05am - I am prepared to accept, that Madeleine's remains had been present inside their apartment when the McFlies left 5A to go to the tapas restaurant, and again, by 9.05 am, when Gerry McFly went back to the family apartment to comply with his say so, that Madeleine was still present and still very much alive by that time - but sadly I have to report that if her body had been there, that her spirit was not!
It is my belief, that when Kate McFly went to check on the siblings back inside apartment 5A, at around 10pm knowing or believing that Madeleines body had already been removed and taken from there by either Matt Oldfield, Russell O'Brien, Jane Tanner, and or David Payne, who had all shown a willingness to help the McFlies with the alleged abduction narrative..
Madeleine's disappearence had to be reported on that night because they were due to fly back to the UK on the following day...
But Madeleine had already died on Tuesday 1st May 2007, not inside apartment 5A, but at the premises of the lobster crèche above Warner's main reception area...
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Madeleine's disappearence had to be reported on that night because they were due to fly back to the UK on the following day...
But Madeleine had already died on Tuesday 1st May 2007, not inside apartment 5A, but at the premises of the lobster crèche above Warner's main reception area...
For confirmation of this, take a look at the registration details relating to the afternoon of Tuesday 1st May 2007 - Madeleine arrives at the lobster creche with her father Gerry McFly at 14.30hrs, but does not appear to have been signed back out, or collected by anyone, or handed over to someone at any stage that afternoon! Instead, she is booked back into the lobster creche on the following morning (Wednesday 2nd May 2007) and booked out again at the close of business on the morning session, then booked back in at the start of the afternoon session, and collected at the end of that days creche activities! The same motions of booking Madeleine in at the start of the morning / afternoon sessions, and subsequently handed back at the close of business at 17.30pm on Thursday 3rd May 2007...
It is my firm belief, that the creche register entries which purport to relate to Madeleine McCann's involvement at the lobster creche once the early afternoon had slipped by on Tuesday 1st May 2007 were fraudulently inserted to leave a lasting impression in the mindset of the Portuguese police and the public at large, that Madeleine had still been alive on the 2nd and 3rd May 2007, when she couldn't have been! She was already dead by that stage, I have no doubt about that fact, none whatsoever...
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For confirmation of this, take a look at the registration details relating to the afternoon of Tuesday 1st May 2007 - Madeleine arrives at the lobster creche with her father Gerry McFly at 14.30hrs, but does not appear to have been signed back out, or collected by anyone, or handed over to someone at any stage that afternoon! Instead, she is booked back into the lobster creche on the following morning (Wednesday 2nd May 2007) and booked out again at the close of business on the morning session, then booked back in at the start of the afternoon session, and collected at the end of that days creche activities! The same motions of booking Madeleine in at the start of the morning / afternoon sessions, and subsequently handed back at the close of business at 17.30pm on Thursday 3rd May 2007...
It is my firm belief, that the creche register entries which purport to relate to Madeleine McCann's involvement at the lobster creche once the early afternoon had slipped by on Tuesday 1st May 2007 were fraudulently inserted to leave a lasting impression in the mindset of the Portuguese police and the public at large, that Madeleine had still been alive on the 2nd and 3rd May 2007, when she couldn't have been! She was already dead by that stage, I have no doubt about that fact, none whatsoever...
Well somebody would have blabbed by now. They were all temporary workers hired for Mark Warner with no loyalty to anyone in particular.
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Well somebody would have blabbed by now. They were all temporary workers hired for Mark Warner with no loyalty to anyone in particular.
There is no need for anyone to blab on anybody, the absent details regarding what happened at the lobster creche after 14.30hrs to Madeleine McCann says it all really - Madeleine never left the creche at all that afternoon, and yet the McFlies booked Madeleine back into the same creche on the following morning at on Wednesday 2nd May 2007 (fabricated narrative), again into the lobster creche at the beginning of the afternoon session, and back out again at the close of business (fabricated narrative), and again booked into the lobster creche on the morning session of Thursday 3rd May 2007, and back out again at the close of business in the afternoon session (fabricated narrative) - remember, how in her book, 'Madeleine' how Kate had been out running only to return to the tapas bar area to find Gerry, Amelie, Sean and Madeleine already eating high tea?
However...
According to the register at the jellyfish creche, Kate herself had collected Amelie and Sean (against her own signature) at 17.25 hrs, on Thursday 3rd May 2007, and that within the next 5 minutes, with two youngsters in tow, she had also collected Madeleine from Lobsters creche as far away as the first floor above the main Warner reception by 17.30hrs (fabricated narrative)! How could it possibly be true then, that upon Kate McFly returning from her afternoon run (jog on) to the tapas bar at 5.30pm, that she found Gerry McFly and all three children who had all already started eating high tea by the time she arrived?
Something's wrong, here...
Either, McFly-fem returned to the tapas area at 5.30pm to find the rest of her family already sat at the table eating their high teas ( as McFly-fem states in her book), or before she returned to the tapas area she had been to collect Amelie and Sean from jelly fish creche, followed by a dash down to the first floor lobster creche situated above the main reception to sign out Madeleine at 17.30hrs, before returning back up to high tea close to the tapas bar?
Two conflicting accounts, of which at least one cannot possibly be true?
Then, a third account introduced by the lobster creche nanny (Mc- CAT), who states that she returned Madeleine to the tapas area for high tea, informing the McFlies that they could sign the creche register at the end, when high tea had finished - well, the signature on that version of the lobster creche register has Kate McFly signing Madeleine out of the creche at 17.30hrs, but according to the contents of her own book ('Madeleine') she returned to the tapas bar area at that time, only to find Gerry, Amelie, Sean and Madeleine already eating!
Well, I'm afraid to say it, but I have never in all of my 62 years of life upon this earth heard such a blatently pack of lies by anyone, or everybody who claims to have played a part, or a bit part in this astonishing fairy tale!
Why is it, that Madeleines mother (McFly-fem) can't get the simple facts right about where Madeleine was, when she first arrived at the tapas area for high tea? Was Madeleine already there, like McFly-fem states in her book, or did she collect the children (all three of them) before they all went together to partake in high tea, or as the case may be, that the creche nanny had brought Madeleine to the tapas for high tea? But, which version is true?
What if all three different accounts are all untrue!
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If Madeleine was already eating high tea at the time McFly-fem returned from her run as stated in her book, then of course McFly-fem couldn't have collected Madeleine from the lobster creche at 17.30 hrs prior to Madeleine starting to eat her high tea before McFly-fem collected her from the lobster creche! It just doesn't make any sense at all..
Madeleine had to be at the Lobster creche in a first floor room above the main Ocean Club reception (a), before she could possibly have arrived at high tea in the tapas area (g), or started eating high tea (k) thereafter...
(a), (g), (k), in that order, right?
Madeleine had to be present at the lobster creche (a)
prior to arriving at high tea (g)
in order for Madeleine to have started eating..
Well, let's now introduce Kate McFlies narrative that she returned from her afternoon run to the tapas bar at 5.30pm (b), and found Gerry, Amelie, Sean and Madeleine who had all already started eating tea before she had arrived (h)...
So, now we have (a), (b), (g), (h), (k), in that general order, right?
Madeleine had to be present at the lobster creche (a)
Kate McFly returned from her late afternoon run at 5.30pm (b)
Madeleine must still have been at the lobster creche by this time, 5.30pm (g)
When Kate McFly returned from her run to the tapas bar area, Gerry, Amelia, Sean and Madeleine had already started their teas (h)
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Now, let's incorporate the lobster creche nanny's narrative - at the close of business, on the afternoon of 3rd May 2007, the nanny Mc- CAT took Madeleine to the tapas area to hand her over at high tea (c) but told the parents that they could sign the lobster creche register at the end once high tea had been finished (I), which Kate McFly signed at 17.30 hrs (j)
So, at this juncture, we now have (a), (b), (c), (g), (h), (I), (j), (k),
Madeleine had to be present at the lobster creche (a)
Kate McFly returned from her late afternoon run at 5.30pm (b)
the nanny Mc- CAT took Madeleine to the tapas area to hand her over at high tea (c)
Madeleine must still have been at the lobster creche by this time, 5.30pm (g)
When Kate McFly returned from her run to the tapas bar area, Gerry, Amelia, Sean and Madeleine had already started their teas (h)
Creche nanny told McFlies they could sign the lobster creche register at the end once high tea had been finished (I),
which Kate McFly signed at 17.30 hrs (j)
Madeleine would have finished eating high tea before Kate McFly went back to the lobster creche to sign the lobster creche register by 5.30pm (k)
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The McFlies, are basically pathetic liars, along with the other cretins who form part and parcel of the McFlies group...
Madeleine McCann is dead, they know it, I know it and almost everyone who knows about this case knows that Madeline McCann is gone - 'they have taken her, they have taken her, Madeleine is gone'..
And..
She was / is gone, never to return!