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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: JackiePreece on February 08, 2016, 07:13:PM
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Something I picked up from CAL's book: SB claims JM told her on 26th/27th Aug about JB's involvement with the murders (at that time a mercenary).
Something discussed on the red forum which is of great interest if you find it hard to believe Mugford or Battersby
Battersbys behaviour??
Mugford knew Jeremy was responsible for the murder of 3 adults and 2 children and shared this with her friend?
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=529.0;attach=1663
On 29th Aug a party was held at SB/JM's home to celebrate JM's 21st. During the party SB "jokingly" gestured to put cream on JB's neck as he was sorting out JM's birthday cake out:
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=530.0;attach=1671
Hmmm so JM tells SB JB had a direct hand in murdering his entire immediate family and 2/3 days later SB wants to joke around with JB &%+((£. Had I been SB I'm pretty damn certain I wouldn't have wanted JB anywhere near me
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Something I picked up from CAL's book: SB claims JM told her on 26th/27th Aug about JB's involvement with the murders (at that time a mercenary).
Something discussed on the red forum which is of great interest if you find it hard to believe Mugford or Battersby
Battersbys behaviour??
Mugford knew Jeremy was responsible for the murder of 3 adults and 2 children and shared this with her friend?
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=529.0;attach=1663
On 29th Aug a party was held at SB/JM's home to celebrate JM's 21st. During the party SB "jokingly" gestured to put cream on JB's neck as he was sorting out JM's birthday cake out:
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=530.0;attach=1671
Hmmm so JM tells SB JB had a direct hand in murdering his entire immediate family and 2/3 days later SB wants to joke around with JB &%+((£. Had I been SB I'm pretty damn certain I wouldn't have wanted JB anywhere near me
Least SHE wasn't in denial!
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Least SHE wasn't in denial!
It is just more evidence that Julie and Battersby probably lied
Absolutely NOBODY would engage in party fun with JB the murderer or are you suggesting that Battersby was as twisted as Mugford
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It is just more evidence that Julie and Battersby probably lied
Absolutely NOBODY would engage in party fun with JB the murderer or are you suggesting that Battersby was as twisted as Mugford
I'm not suggesting anything, you're the one making the allegations!
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I'm not suggesting anything, you're the one making the allegations!
Don't you think Battersys behaviour towards a multiple murderer was strange?
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Don't you think Battersys behaviour towards a multiple murderer was strange?
The notion of him being a multiple killer was (at the time) only a possibility. However, I find lots of people's behaviour strange in this case!
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Don't you think Battersys behaviour towards a multiple murderer was strange?
The notion of him being a multiple killer was (at the time) only a possibility. However, I find lots of people's behaviour strange in this case!
I find alot of womens behaviour strange towards Bamber too.
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I find alot of womens behaviour strange towards Bamber too.
And a lot of men´s too.
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And a lot of men´s too.
I don't know any male supporters of Bamber, so I can't comment on their behaviour.
(other than Mike)
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I don't know any male supporters of Bamber, so I can't comment on their behaviour.
(other than Mike)
You are male ( I suppose). JB has been in jail for years and years, harshest sentence in England ever - yet you, as a male, feel the need to emphasise he needs punishment . WHY? What exactly more do you want?
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You are male ( I suppose). JB has been in jail for years and years, harshest sentence in England ever - yet you, as a male, feel the need to emphasise he needs punishment . WHY? What exactly more do you want?
I said SUPPORTER. I am not a Bamber supporter.
Don't be over dramatic, his sentence isn't the harshest in England EVER. ;D
Where am I emphasising that he needs punishment? I am happy with his punishment. None of my posts talk about him needing MORE punishment so I am not sure what point you are trying to make other than repeating yourself yet again as you take a poor jab at guilters AGAIN.
You have had the question answered as to why guilters are here by myself, Jane, Petey, Vid, Hartley Caroline and I am sure others.
I don't get the strange obession with asking why people are here over and over, when you don't even pay attention to the answers. What does it even have to do with you?? ;D.....Why are YOU here Alias? You don't/can't debate. When you do post you bring up the same 2 things that you always bring up (, 2 shots to Sheila and 2, why are guilters here......You rarely post but you have issues with those that do?
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I said SUPPORTER. I am not a Bamber supporter.
Don't be over dramatic, his sentence isn't the harshest in England EVER. ;D
Where am I emphasising that he needs punishment? I am happy with his punishment. None of my posts talk about him needing MORE punishment so I am not sure what point you are trying to make other than repeating yourself yet again as you take a poor jab at guilters AGAIN.
You have had the question answered as to why guilters are here by myself, Jane, Petey, Vid, Hartley Caroline and I am sure others.
I don't get the strange obession with asking why people are here over and over, when you don't even pay attention to the answers. What does it even have to do with you?? ;D.....Why are YOU here Alias? You don't/can't debate. When you do post you bring up the same 2 things that you always bring up (, 2 shots to Sheila and 2, why are guilters here......You rarely post but you have issues with those that do?
All cases that seem wrong stay with me. This isn´t the only one. Just can´t see why you keep obsessing about a case where you are happy with the sentence of the perpetrator. Puzzling. Jeremy does have the strongest sentence possible in England, so what more do you want?
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All cases that seem wrong stay with me. This isn´t the only one. Just can´t see why you keep obsessing about a case where you are happy with the sentence of the perpetrator. Puzzling. Jeremy does have the strongest sentence possible in England, so what more do you want?
As I said above I am not bothered about his sentence so I don't know why you are bothering to repeat your question. And as for why guilters are here numerous people have answered you numerous times, you're not interested in the answer.
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As I said above I am not bothered about his sentence so I don't know why you are bothering to repeat your question. And as for why guilters are here numerous people have answered you numerous times, you're not interested in the answer.
Nobody answered honestly. People are here discussing this case because we do not know the truth about it. It is interesting because of that. We don´t know what happened. I don´t, you don´t.
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No one in their right mind would want to be near, or joke around with and taunt, someone they believed to be a multi-murderer. SB ended up with the cake on her head which was possibly her motive for lying about Jeremy.
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No one in their right mind would want to be near, or joke around with and taunt, someone they believed to be a multi-murderer. SB ended up with the cake on her head which was possibly her motive for lying about Jeremy.
So true Lebaleb, they planned together to stitch Jeremy up
I wonder if they ever get a good nights sleep
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It might be a good idea for the Campaign Team or a national newspaper to track down Susan and maybe get more information about what truthfully happened with JB and if she regrets her witness statements
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She was NO friend that's for sure.
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She was NO friend that's for sure.
I am trying to find something to cut and paste about Battersbys behaviour which is hardly normal
I wil get to it soon just researching in depth
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I am trying to find something to cut and paste about Battersbys behaviour which is hardly normal
I wil get to it soon just researching in depth
115. Miss Mugford also admitted that she had used a cheque book belonging to Susan Battersby which had been falsely reported as stolen to obtain some £700 of property in Oxford Street. She told the jury that she and Miss Battersby had repaid the money to the bank in October 1985 and that she had been cautioned for the offence.
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It might be a good idea for the Campaign Team or a national newspaper to track down Susan and maybe get more information about what truthfully happened with JB and if she regrets her witness statements
You have stated on this forum you are friends with Stephanie Bon. http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6614.msg344104.html#msg344104
Yet Miss Bon sent me a PM stating SH had committed a burglary before the murder (She wasn't referring to the Zenith burglary). This was prior to his confession btw.
Her PM was submitted to the CCRC as evidence, so no need to question the authenticity.
In all the years she campaigned, her website stated SH had never committed any burglaries!? Or words to that effect. http://www.bushywood.com/BBC_Rough_Justice.htm
Yet here you are questioning Susan B's allegations made in her statement and about her 'behaviour.' Bit hypocritical don't you think?
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I am trying to find something to cut and paste about Battersbys behaviour which is hardly normal
I wil get to it soon just researching in depth
And here's another example of your hypocrisy...
Admitting to being part of the cut and paste brigade.. ;D ;D ;D
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It's very strange that this topic is very thin on the ground with posts from the guilty brigade
People are even trying to take the thread off topic
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It's very strange that this topic is very thin on the ground with posts from the guilty brigade
People are even trying to take the thread off topic
Not going off topic Jackiepreece - just giving an example of your hypocrisy...
You can't have rules for one and rules for another...
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I am trying to find something to cut and paste about Battersbys behaviour which is hardly normal
I wil get to it soon just researching in depth
115. Miss Mugford also admitted that she had used a cheque book belonging to Susan Battersby which had been falsely reported as stolen to obtain some £700 of property in Oxford Street. She told the jury that she and Miss Battersby had repaid the money to the bank in October 1985 and that she had been cautioned for the offence.
What's abnormal about her and JM repaying the money to the bank? Should they have kept it?
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On 29th Aug a party was held at SB/JM's home to celebrate JM's 21st. During the party SB "jokingly" gestured to put cream on JB's neck as he was sorting out JM's birthday cake out:
Hmmm so JM tells SB JB had a direct hand in murdering his entire immediate family and 2/3 days later SB wants to joke around with JB
Nothing wrong with this behaviour ?
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On 29th Aug a party was held at SB/JM's home to celebrate JM's 21st. During the party SB "jokingly" gestured to put cream on JB's neck as he was sorting out JM's birthday cake out:
Hmmm so JM tells SB JB had a direct hand in murdering his entire immediate family and 2/3 days later SB wants to joke around with JB
Nothing wrong with this behaviour ?
That's probably why she got really upset after he pushed the cake in her face.
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On 29th Aug a party was held at SB/JM's home to celebrate JM's 21st. During the party SB "jokingly" gestured to put cream on JB's neck as he was sorting out JM's birthday cake out:
Hmmm so JM tells SB JB had a direct hand in murdering his entire immediate family and 2/3 days later SB wants to joke around with JB
As if anyone would play fight with someone who had just murdered 3 adults and 2 children
Further evidence that Jeremy had NOTHING to do with the murders
Nothing wrong with this behaviour ?
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Best nip down to the CCRC immediately - he's be out by midnight!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Battersby and Mugford formed a close bond to carry out the cheque frauds
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Battersby and Mugford formed a close bond to carry out the cheque frauds
They were just friends - not Thelma and Louise!! ::)
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Obtaining property by deception - cheques
Date Updated: January 2012
Title: Theft
Offence: Obtaining property by deception - Cheques
Legislation: S15 Theft Act 1968
Commencement Date: Repealed as from 15.1.2007 by the FRAUD ACT 2006 , however under transitional provisions this section is still applicable to offences where the offence was partly committed before 15th January 2007- see section14(2) and schedule 2 of the Fraud Act for detailed provisions.
Mode of Trial: Either Way
Statutory Limitations & Maximum Penalty: 10 years
Culpability & Harm
Substantial amounts involved.
Substantial loss sustained.
Planning.
Professionalism.
Offending carried out over a long period
Offender acting with others.
Offender recruited others.
Offender prime mover
Motivated by greed or desire to live beyond his or her means.
Aggravating & Mitigating Factors
None
Relevant Sentencing Guidelines (If Any)
R v CLARK [1998] 2 Cr.App.R.(S.)142 B6-12003 which updated the guidance issued in R v BARRICK [1985] 7 Cr.App.R.(S.)142 B6 - immediate imprisonment is inevitable in breach of trust cases unless there are exceptional circumstances or the amount of money involved is very small.
Less than £17,500 up to 21 months
£17,500 to £100,000 2-3 years
£100,000 to £250,000 3-4 years
£250,000 to £1 million 5-9 years
£1 million or more 10 years +
R. V KEFFORD (MARK JAMES) [2002] 2 CR. APP. R. (S.) 106
For economic crimes, alternative sentences to imprisonment could be appropriate punishment.
K was employed by a building society and opened false accounts into which he made windfall payments and then withdrew money as needed. The amount of £11,120 was taken. When interviewed the appellant immediately made full and frank confessions. He had no previous convictions. After the discovery of the offences the appellant sold his home so as to be able to repay the sums he had taken. On appeal his sentence was reduced from 12 months imprisonment to 4 months. The court commented that even in the present circumstances, in cases involving breach of trust where the sum involved was not small, the guidance in Clarke was still applicable even where it was a first offence, however, a sentence of imprisonment should only be imposed when necessary and only for as long as was necessary in view of the overcrowded prison system. For economic crimes, especially where the offender was of previous good character, alternative sentences to imprisonment could be appropriate punishment.
R v ROACH [2002] 1 CR.AP.R(S) 259
The defendant pleaded guilty to three counts of obtaining a money transfer by deception. The defendant worked for a firm supplying carers to elderly and infirm people. Over a period of about two years cashed cheques to the value of £2,875 from a 80 year old client. 18m. Clark [1998] 2 Cr.App.R.(S.) 95 and Barrick (1985) 7 Cr.App.R.(S.) 142, guidelines were not relevant to offending of the kind under consideration. They related to theft in breach of trust from employers, charitable bodies or similar organisations. The distinctive feature of this case was that it involved the exploitation of pitifully vulnerable people, whether due to age or infirmity or a combination of both. The sentence passed could not be said to be manifestly excessive; in the Court's view it was an entirely correct and appropriate sentence.
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Obtaining property by deception - cheques
Date Updated: January 2012
Title: Theft
Offence: Obtaining property by deception - Cheques
Legislation: S15 Theft Act 1968
Commencement Date: Repealed as from 15.1.2007 by the FRAUD ACT 2006 , however under transitional provisions this section is still applicable to offences where the offence was partly committed before 15th January 2007- see section14(2) and schedule 2 of the Fraud Act for detailed provisions.
Mode of Trial: Either Way
Statutory Limitations & Maximum Penalty: 10 years
Culpability & Harm
Substantial amounts involved.
Substantial loss sustained.
Planning.
Professionalism.
Offending carried out over a long period
Offender acting with others.
Offender recruited others.
Offender prime mover
Motivated by greed or desire to live beyond his or her means.
Aggravating & Mitigating Factors
None
Relevant Sentencing Guidelines (If Any)
R v CLARK [1998] 2 Cr.App.R.(S.)142 B6-12003 which updated the guidance issued in R v BARRICK [1985] 7 Cr.App.R.(S.)142 B6 - immediate imprisonment is inevitable in breach of trust cases unless there are exceptional circumstances or the amount of money involved is very small.
Less than £17,500 up to 21 months
£17,500 to £100,000 2-3 years
£100,000 to £250,000 3-4 years
£250,000 to £1 million 5-9 years
£1 million or more 10 years +
R. V KEFFORD (MARK JAMES) [2002] 2 CR. APP. R. (S.) 106
For economic crimes, alternative sentences to imprisonment could be appropriate punishment.
K was employed by a building society and opened false accounts into which he made windfall payments and then withdrew money as needed. The amount of £11,120 was taken. When interviewed the appellant immediately made full and frank confessions. He had no previous convictions. After the discovery of the offences the appellant sold his home so as to be able to repay the sums he had taken. On appeal his sentence was reduced from 12 months imprisonment to 4 months. The court commented that even in the present circumstances, in cases involving breach of trust where the sum involved was not small, the guidance in Clarke was still applicable even where it was a first offence, however, a sentence of imprisonment should only be imposed when necessary and only for as long as was necessary in view of the overcrowded prison system. For economic crimes, especially where the offender was of previous good character, alternative sentences to imprisonment could be appropriate punishment.
R v ROACH [2002] 1 CR.AP.R(S) 259
The defendant pleaded guilty to three counts of obtaining a money transfer by deception. The defendant worked for a firm supplying carers to elderly and infirm people. Over a period of about two years cashed cheques to the value of £2,875 from a 80 year old client. 18m. Clark [1998] 2 Cr.App.R.(S.) 95 and Barrick (1985) 7 Cr.App.R.(S.) 142, guidelines were not relevant to offending of the kind under consideration. They related to theft in breach of trust from employers, charitable bodies or similar organisations. The distinctive feature of this case was that it involved the exploitation of pitifully vulnerable people, whether due to age or infirmity or a combination of both. The sentence passed could not be said to be manifestly excessive; in the Court's view it was an entirely correct and appropriate sentence.
Nice cut and paste job! Thought you didn't like cut and pastes?
Are you trying to suggest that fraud is worse than murdering 5 people? Although come to think of it, Jeremy murdered 5 people, stole and sold drugs. Almost a full house!
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Nice cut and paste job! Thought you didn't like cut and pastes?
Are you trying to suggest that fraud is worse than murdering 5 people? Although come to think of it, Jeremy murdered 5 people, stole and sold drugs. Almost a full house!
He's been violent since - I'd call that BINGO!
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But I'm quite certain in my mind that Jeremy didn't commit the murders and Daisy definitely does NOT exist
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But I'm quite certain in my mind that Jeremy didn't commit the murders and Daisy definitely does NOT exist
You are off topic on your own thread and are merely goading. Either join in the debate and discuss the case or go away!
And for the record - no one has any faith in what's in your mind and the Daisy business has been discussed before. In fact - Daisy if you are reading this - please remind us of what JB did to you.
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Unfortunately Daisy does not exist
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Unfortunately Daisy does not exist
If she doesn't exist why do you keep referring to her? The only member who mentions her is you!
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Unfortunately Daisy does not exist
Yes she does! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Unfortunately Daisy does not exist
Pretty sure NGB said she does.
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Pretty sure NGB said she does.
I suggest you check that out
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I suggest you check that out
It HAS been verified. Why don't you check it out?
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No it has not been I asked NGB myself
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No it has not been I asked NGB myself
And you've been found out telling porkies, haven't you?
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The last couple of pages of this thread seems to provide some answers? :-\
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5639.195.html (http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5639.195.html)
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(http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5009.0;attach=35164;image)
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Something told me that " Daisy " was a man and in MY opinion it had connotations of the " sensationalist " similarity to the newspaper version of the PH debacle where " threats from Jeremy " were alleged to have been made from him within his prison cell to the author.
Just another Jeremy-bashing tactic. So boring,so childish.
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I either wasn't on the forum at the time or I didn't give it any attention, but this post from NGB seems to provide clarity. :-\
She posted on the red forum because AA pointed her in that direction. AA regards the red forum as a more sympathetic forum that this one, I believe because she thought the mods did not protect her from attacks by Jackie Preece.
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Something told me that " Daisy " was a man and in MY opinion it had connotations of the " sensationalist " similarity to the newspaper version of the PH debacle where " threats from Jeremy " were alleged to have been made from him within his prison cell to the author.
Just another Jeremy-bashing tactic. So boring,so childish.
Jackie was involved in that as well wasn't she Lookout? ???
Seems to be a pattern. ???
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No it has not been I asked NGB myself
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Jackie was involved in that as well wasn't she Lookout? ???
Seems to be a pattern. ???
I honestly didn't know that Hartley. Pattern ??
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No it has not been I asked NGB myself
Rather deceptive that, Jackie. It's a frequently used trick you employ. You ASKED Neil. You DIDN'T give his reply.
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I honestly didn't know that Hartley. Pattern ??
It actually saddens me that, just because you think she's on your "side", you'd put your trust into such an untruthful and duplicitous person, yet you tell one of the most honest and straightforward people on this forum that you don't trust her.
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I honestly didn't know that Hartley. Pattern ??
There was some strange conflict where Jackie had contacted PH and offered to provide him with a database of email addresses and contact details she had access to from her employers.
PH and NGB had some sort of an exchange, I don't think PH was particularly pleasent to NGB, then the newspaper article came out a short time later.
The common denominator however is Jackie.
If Ghandi and Jackie ever met, I'm convinced that Ghandi would later be arrested for GBH! :o
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There was some strange conflict where Jackie had contacted PH and offered to provide him with a database of email addresses and contact details she had access to from her employers.
PH and NGB had some sort of an exchange, I don't the PH was particularly pleasent to NGB, then the newspaper article came out a short time later.
The common denominator however is Jackie.
If Ghandi and Jackie ever met, I'm convinced that Ghandi would later be arrested for GBH! :o
H. If I recall, Jackie SWORE that it was PH who had contacted her first, but after reading her correspondence with him, it became perfectly clear, after examining the wording, that it was she who had made first contact.
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H. If I recall, Jackie SWORE that it was PH who had contacted her first, but after reading her correspondence with him, it became perfectly clear, after examining the wording, that it was she who had made first contact.
Aaah yes, that's right, she tried to make out it was PH who had instigated the 'situation', but NGB posted her PM's and it showed Jackie to be lying.
Didn't her employers also give a message (must have been posted by NGB) that was somewhat scathing towards Jackies offer of providing email addresses and contact details?
It was all rather unsavoury, but with Jackie involved, what else would we expect? ???
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Aaah yes, that's right, she tried to make out it was PH who had instigated the 'situation', but NGB posted her PM's and it showed Jackie to be lying.
Didn't her employers also give a message (must have been posted by NGB) that was somewhat scathing towards Jackies offer of providing email addresses and contact details?
It was all rather unsavoury, but with Jackie involved, what else would we expect? ???
When anyone puts such store in talking about all those in high places who are known to them personally AND brags about the huge amounts of money they earns, one can expect nothing less than the unsavoury and vulgar.
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And Daisy is who
A made up user name
What a load of rubbish and what a coincidence AA is involved
She does NOT exist
A user name Daisy exists
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I was reading a thread on the forum a few days ago, it was discussing traits of a psychopath.
A few posters were commenting about the fact that Jeremy appears to display many of the traits that were listed. At the time, I couldn't help but also associate many of the traits with our Jackie.
I wonder if she has ever been tested? :-\
Very funny coming from Anne Eatons gopher
I bet your hanging onto your job by the skin of your teeth
How many times have you been banned from this forum for threatening behaviour or have you lost count
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Any way back to the topic of the thread if Jeremy had really told Mugford and then She had told Battersys Jeremy about the murders the deceitful pair would not be playing party games with Jeremy
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Very funny coming from Anne Eatons gopher
I bet your hanging onto your job by the skin of your teeth
How many times have you been banned from this forum for threatening behaviour or have you lost count
We'll, I could sack myself I suppose, it would be a bit strange though. ???
I, like others no doubt, have lost count of the number of times I have been banned for threatening behaviour. :-\
Given your history though, it's a bit of a weak string to your quiver of insults. :))
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Any way back to the topic of the thread if Jeremy had really told Mugford and then She had told Battersys Jeremy about the murders the deceitful pair would not be playing party games with Jeremy
No.
Let's talk about Daisy.
You have claimed that she does not exist and to add weight to your claim, you have announced that NGB has provided you with this information.
Yet on the public boards, NGB gives the impression that he actually knows who Daisy is and indeed she is well known to the campaign team.
Obviously time has passed and views can change, but I do hope you are not misrepresenting NGB's views.
Has he really told you that Daisy is not real, or have you just got a bit excited and made it up? :-\
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No.
Let's talk about Daisy.
You have claimed that she does not exist and to add weight to your claim, you have announced that NGB has provided you with this information.
Yet on the public boards, NGB gives the impression that he actually knows who Daisy is and indeed she is well known to the campaign team.
You keep quoting the CT so I suggest you ask Trudi directly
I would not expect her to lie
Obviously time has passed and views can change, but I do hope you are not misrepresenting NGB's views.
Has he really told you that Daisy is not real, or have you just got a bit excited and made it up? :-\
You keep quoting the CT so I suggest you ask Trudi directly
I would not expect her to lie
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You keep quoting the CT so I suggest you ask Trudi directly
No I do not.
I would not expect her to lie
I would, but that's another issue.
You have claimed that NGB has informed you that Daisy does not exist.
Are you sticking to your claim that NGB has provided you with this information?
You can retract it or just say that's how you interpreted him if you want to?
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There is a constant stream of fake people try to cause trouble to Jeremy's campaign
Fake David Eaton
Fake Lisa Limey
I have NEVER had contact with her through
Twitter
My tweets are protected
Now the user name Daisy who is some sort of friend of AA
If Jeremy had treated me like 'Daisy' I would have gone to the police and she would to
She hasn't though has 'Daisy'
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You have claimed that NGB has informed you that Daisy does not exist.
Are you sticking to your claim that NGB has provided you with this information?
You can retract it or just say that's how you interpreted him if you want to?
I suggest you wait for NGB and see if he has actual proof
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I suggest you wait for NGB and see if he has actual proof
I think you'll find you are wrong and I KNOW Daisy exists - I'd take the offer to retract it if I were you!
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I don't know whether NGB has provided you with information that Daisy is not real, however, I do not believe it to be true.
If it is not true, then I'd expect him to be a bit miffed that you are claiming he has said things that he has not.
As I say, you have the opportunity right now to retract your claim if you want to?
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There is a constant stream of fake people try to cause trouble to Jeremy's campaign
Fake David Eaton
Fake Lisa Limey
I have NEVER had contact with her through
Twitter
My tweets are protected
Now the user name Daisy who is some sort of friend of AA
If Jeremy had treated me like 'Daisy' I would have gone to the police and she would to
She hasn't though has 'Daisy'
Jackie,the sickest ID I saw before was a nerd posting as " Poor Bambi " ! Now that IS disrespectful and dare I say typical of the aggression/mentality of someone who wanted to draw attention to the fact that IT supported Jeremy's guilt----------disgusting. If that's the type of troublesome person who is responsible for all the Jeremy-bashing ( using umpteen ID's ) then I'm glad I'm not associated with having a guilty view.
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There is a constant stream of fake people try to cause trouble to Jeremy's campaign
Fake David Eaton
Fake Lisa Limey
I have NEVER had contact with her through
Twitter
My tweets are protected
Now the user name Daisy who is some sort of friend of AA
If Jeremy had treated me like 'Daisy' I would have gone to the police and she would to
She hasn't though has 'Daisy'
Gone to the police? For what? At least you admit, he treated her appallingly!
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Gone to the police? For what? At least you admit, he treated her appallingly!
It sounds dreadful. I've not really conversed with AA but I understand she was treated rather poorly also?
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I haven't admitted anything
She does not exist
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It sounds dreadful. I've not really conversed with AA but I understand she was treated rather poorly also?
She told me she dumped Jeremy so where you got that from?
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Jackie,the sickest ID I saw before was a nerd posting as " Poor Bambi " ! Now that IS disrespectful and dare I say typical of the aggression/mentality of someone who wanted to draw attention to the fact that IT supported Jeremy's guilt----------disgusting. If that's the type of troublesome person who is responsible for all the Jeremy-bashing ( using umpteen ID's ) then I'm glad I'm not associated with having a guilty view.
I could tell you far 'sicker' stories than this Lookout - of 'certain people' and their fake ID's on the WWW and the lengths they went to in order to stop me from getting to the truth...
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I didn't think prisoners were allowed to accept money ( hard cash ) anyway.What good would it have done him ? Trudi had the right idea setting up a fund. Will " Daisy " contribute to that ?
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Trudi had the right idea setting up a fund. Will " Daisy " contribute to that ?
I imagine Jeremy will attempt to take Trudi to the cleaners... As he attempted to do with Daisy.
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The last couple of pages of this thread seems to provide some answers? :-\
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5639.195.html (http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5639.195.html)
Funny thing is, Jackie in that topic attacking xxxxx - who Jackie now praises. ;D
I don't know whether NGB has provided you with information that Daisy is not real, however, I do not believe it to be true.
If it is not true, then I'd expect him to be a bit miffed that you are claiming he has said things that he has not.
As I say, you have the opportunity right now to retract your claim if you want to?
I am just going to ask him. Seems easiest. But he did give the impression that she was real - he said she was known to supporters.
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As for the comments from the employer, Hartley they weren't posted by NGB they were from a newspaper article.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/524489/Mass-killer-Jeremy-Bamber-s-threat-to-Scots-author-Harrison
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As for the comments from the employer, Hartley they weren't posted by NGB they were from a newspaper article.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/524489/Mass-killer-Jeremy-Bamber-s-threat-to-Scots-author-Harrison
Aaah okay, my mistake. I knew I'd seen it somewhere, memory like a sieve. :-[
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I imagine Jeremy will attempt to take Trudi to the cleaners... As he attempted to do with Daisy.
He'd have a job being inside.His hands are tied.Besides,the money is to fund the extortionate charges of various departments.
You and others may think what you like---------as I'm sure you will,but the end result will prove one way or the other,which still involves guilters as well as those of us who say he's innocent.
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I didn't think prisoners were allowed to accept money ( hard cash ) anyway.What good would it have done him ? Trudi had the right idea setting up a fund. Will " Daisy " contribute to that ?
Of course they are. Daisly wouldn't give Bamber another penny.
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She told me she dumped Jeremy so where you got that from?
Reading various posts on the forum, I got the impression that people thought AA wasn't treated very well by JB. Just impression I got.
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Reading various posts on the forum, I got the impression that people thought AA wasn't treated very well by JB. Just impression I got.
I wouldn't take much notice if I were you.
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I wouldn't take much notice if I were you.
At what point do you start to take notice? There are too many of these people for it to be a coincidence. Jeremy drops people when he tires of them.
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Reading various posts on the forum, I got the impression that people thought AA wasn't treated very well by JB. Just impression I got.
I believe she had a hard time from those on the inner circle aswell, she believed some to be jealous. Which causes me to shudder.
AA I always found a good person & got along with though.
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I believe she had a hard time from those on the inner circle aswell, she believed some to be jealous. Which causes me to shudder.
AA I always found a good person & got along with though.
Yeah there does seem to be some weird jealousy thing going on between the .......... more intense .......... supporters.
I'm Jeremy's favourite.......... No I am......... No me........... He likes me the best .......... He said I'm the best ......... He said I'm the heaviest ....... :o
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Yeah there does seem to be some weird jealousy thing going on between the .......... more intense .......... supporters.
I'm Jeremy's favourite.......... No I am......... No me........... He likes me the best .......... He said I'm the best ......... He said I'm the heaviest ....... :o
;D ;D ;D
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Yeah there does seem to be some weird jealousy thing going on between the .......... more intense .......... supporters.
I'm Jeremy's favourite.......... No I am......... No me........... He likes me the best .......... He said I'm the best ......... He said I'm the heaviest ....... :o
"Psychopaths are great jugglers of women.. They especially relish creating rivalry and jealousy among their partners. They instigate feelings of mutual disrespect and even hatred .
Read this https://psychopathyawareness.wordpress.com/tag/stringing-women-along-the-psychopath-as-puppet-master/
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Do the campaign team even read this forum, I thought they once said they had distanced themselves from Mike and his forum? I remember Grahame saying that there was a Facebook group as well that used to keep falling out with each other.
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At what point do you start to take notice? There are too many of these people for it to be a coincidence. Jeremy drops people when he tires of them.
Jeremy the puppet master... >:(
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Yeah there does seem to be some weird jealousy thing going on between the .......... more intense .......... supporters.
I'm Jeremy's favourite.......... No I am......... No me........... He likes me the best .......... He said I'm the best ......... He said I'm the heaviest ....... :o
Hey,I'm not the jealous type.Never have been and couldn't care less what others have got,or haven't got. For a start Jeremy is old enough to be my son ( he knows this ) as my eldest daughter ( Australia ) is only a year and a bit older than him,so I look upon him as IF he'd been a son and the position that he's in,would I have sat back and done nothing ? Not when I know he's innocent,no. If I thought he was guilty and had been a son of mine,I'd quite easily have disowned him and would have joined my family in Australia.
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"Psychopaths are great jugglers of women.. They especially relish creating rivalry and jealousy among their partners. They instigate feelings of mutual disrespect and even hatred .
Read this https://psychopathyawareness.wordpress.com/tag/stringing-women-along-the-psychopath-as-puppet-master/
Yes, it's no coincidence that the majority of his supporters are from the homogametic sex.
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Would one psychopath know another psychopath ?
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Would one psychopath know another psychopath ?
I've posted this before as has Caroline. There's a website written by a psychopath where he states 'yes' this is the case.
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Yes, it's no coincidence that the majority of his supporters are from the homogametic sex.
"This rivalry also has the additional advantage of creating artificial barriers among the victims. The women’s aggression turns against one another rather than towards their real enemy, the psychopath who is using and mistreating them both, plus several others that they may not even know about.
https://psychopathyawareness.wordpress.com/tag/stringing-women-along-the-psychopath-as-puppet-master/
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"This rivalry also has the additional advantage of creating artificial barriers among the victims. The women’s aggression turns against one another rather than towards their real enemy, the psychopath who is using and mistreating them both, plus several others that they may not even know about.
Of course, Trudi might be collecting all of this money for a new car and a conservatory, maybe she's turned the tables? :-\
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Are you thinking of Jackie and Jeremy?
Tut tut,Hartley.
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Of course, Trudi might be collecting all of this money for a new car and a conservatory, maybe she's turned the tables? :-\
I wonder how the other puppets would react. :-\
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Tut tut,Hartley.
Yes, that was a bit of a cheap shot. :-[
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Of course, Trudi might be collecting all of this money for a new car and a conservatory, maybe she's turned the tables? :-\
Isn't that what the " bank of Mum " usually funds ? Or have I just been a mug all my life ? ;D ;D ;D ;D
Don't answer that .
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Isn't that what the " bank of Mum " usually funds ? Or have I just been a mug all my life ? ;D ;D ;D ;D
Don't answer that .
;D
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Yes, it's no coincidence that the majority of his supporters are from the homogametic sex.
I looked up the meaning of this word and am still none the wiser. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/homogametic
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I looked up the meaning of this word and am still none the wiser. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/homogametic
I think H may have been alluding to that Jeremy's followers are female?
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Do the campaign team even read this forum, I thought they once said they had distanced themselves from Mike and his forum? I remember Grahame saying that there was a Facebook group as well that used to keep falling out with each other.
They certainly do monitor this forum.
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No it has not been I asked NGB myself
Are you sure it was the poster "Daisy" that I said did not exist? I know a long time ago we discussed a number of fake profiles being used for trolling purposes, but I do not recall discussing Daisy. If you have a PM from me on this can you forward it so I can read it and see the context.
For what it is worth I do believe that Daisy is someone who was once closely associated with the Campaign Team, then fell out badly with them and with Jeremy Bamber. I do have good reasons for believing that, based on conversations I had a while ago but which I do not wish to disclose here as that would breach a confidence. I am not supporting or expressing any view on what Daisy posted here or elsewhere, I am merely saying that I am confident that she is the person referred to in the conversations I had.
I am sorry to be a bit cryptic, but I am careful not to breach a confidence.
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They certainly do monitor this forum.
They're surely way ahead of whatever game is on. What on earth can they possibly hope to gain by logging onto a forum?
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They're surely way ahead of whatever game is on. What on earth can they possibly hope to gain by logging onto a forum?
They monitor to see what is being posted, and some of this is then reported back to Jeremy Bamber.
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They monitor to see what is being posted, and some of this is then reported back to Jeremy Bamber.
Mike posted his Ali Bongo stuff to see if it got back to JB, he later posted a letter he'd received. That was ages ago though.
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Mike posted his Ali Bongo stuff to see if it got back to JB, he later posted a letter he'd received. That was ages ago though.
Presumably that's what this was about. :-\
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,908.0.html (http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,908.0.html)
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Presumably that's what this was about. :-\
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,908.0.html (http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,908.0.html)
The first page of this letter (I've only skimmed the first page) shows Jeremy Bambers projections clearly! He is describing himself and he knows it! Classic psychopathic letter!
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No it has not been I asked NGB myself
Naughty little fibber.
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Are you sure it was the poster "Daisy" that I said did not exist? I know a long time ago we discussed a number of fake profiles being used for trolling purposes, but I do not recall discussing Daisy. If you have a PM from me on this can you forward it so I can read it and see the context.
For what it is worth I do believe that Daisy is someone who was once closely associated with the Campaign Team, then fell out badly with them and with Jeremy Bamber. I do have good reasons for believing that, based on conversations I had a while ago but which I do not wish to disclose here as that would breach a confidence. I am not supporting or expressing any view on what Daisy posted here or elsewhere, I am merely saying that I am confident that she is the person referred to in the conversations I had.
I am sorry to be a bit cryptic, but I am careful not to breach a confidence.
Thank you NGB :)
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They monitor to see what is being posted, and some of this is then reported back to Jeremy Bamber.
Ha, ha!! I can vouch for this - sometimes I think some members also report things.
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They monitor to see what is being posted, and some of this is then reported back to Jeremy Bamber.
Thanks for that, Neil. MAYBE some of Jeremy's supporters report back to him, too??
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Presumably that's what this was about. :-\
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,908.0.html (http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,908.0.html)
This letter is quite disturbing! He sounds terrified about what some medium might say? Perhaps he believes in them more than he'd admit which is why he may have wanted wedding rings etc. destroyed?
Oh and the Mother Theresa comment? Cold!
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Ha, ha!! I can vouch for this - sometimes I think some members also report things.
It all sounds very dramatic, I'd never considered that what I post on the forum might get back to him. :-\
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It all sounds very dramatic, I'd never considered that what I post on the forum might get back to him. :-\
After I 'came out ;D ;D' and admitted I thought he was guilty, he wrote to me saying that he knew I had changed my mind.
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Thanks for that, Neil. MAYBE some of Jeremy's supporters report back to him, too??
You can check all you like on that one but you won't find me being as childish.
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After I 'came out ;D ;D' and admitted I thought he was guilty, he wrote to me saying that he knew I had changed my mind.
So he even hears about individual members? He'd know the name Hartley? ???
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You can check all you like on that one but you won't find me being as childish.
You probably don't even realise you are doing it Lookout..
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You probably don't even realise you are doing it Lookout..
What ? Thank God I'm still aware of what I do.
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So he even hears about individual members? He'd know the name Hartley? ???
Not sure :-\
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You can check all you like on that one but you won't find me being as childish.
I wasn't insinuating you told him about my change of mind. I don't think it was you.
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Not sure :-\
I should have called myself "JeremyYouraMonster" instead. :)
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I should have called myself "JeremyYouraMonster" instead. :)
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Not sure :-\
From experience I would hazard a guess at yes.. He'll prob know your user name and real name.. >:(
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I should have called myself "JeremyYouraMonster" instead. :)
I imagine that would send him into a rage
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I imagine that would send him into a rage
;D
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You can check all you like on that one but you won't find me being as childish.
Lookout, you weren't the first to come to mind and you're not the only supporter.
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Lookout, you weren't the first to come to mind and you're not the only supporter.
I write boring letters from the past,though I'm not as prolific as I used to be because both my blasted thumb joints have decided to go arthritic on me. It's annoyed me greatly.
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So he even hears about individual members? He'd know the name Hartley? ???
Very likely!
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From experience I would hazard a guess at yes.. He'll prob know your user name and real name.. >:(
I doubt if he knows Hartley's real name. It is only some people connected with this forum who have sensitive information like that and the reports to JB about what is posted here come from individuals connected with the Campaign Team, who are hostile to this forum and therefore not involved with it.