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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: notsure on January 25, 2016, 06:28:PM
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I just dont get why so many people changed there statements.
on the OS it gives details of pc Hall entering and calli g out to shiela but then in a later statement he says they used hand signals and only talked in whispers.
barbara wilson says she got on better with jb than her own son to i was frightened of him.etc etc.
the police certainly didnt make it easy for themselves. But seriously Why change the statements. All it does is make me feel as though the police are not to be trusted and that does frighten me.
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It is interesting about how people changed once he came into the frame .
times /words/actions.
Plus actions being interpreted differently . The police saying Jeremy was not upset and the doctor saying he was very distressed .
When he visited WHF when AE and RB were there - the different impressions of his behaviour.
You also have very varying statements about Sheilas behaviour in the days before the murders.
Then as you say the changing of statements.
A friend of mine does social experiments about what people actually see and hear when a crime occurs and they are a witness or are part of the "surrounding" involved people.
And it is very surprising how many people hear of see the same thing but report it completely. Perhaps sometimes we see or hear what we want to hear or see .
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I just dont get why so many people changed there statements.
on the OS it gives details of pc Hall entering and calli g out to shiela but then in a later statement he says they used hand signals and only talked in whispers.
barbara wilson says she got on better with jb than her own son to i was frightened of him.etc etc.
the police certainly didnt make it easy for themselves. But seriously Why change the statements. All it does is make me feel as though the police are not to be trusted and that does frighten me.
Barbra Wilson - Jeremy is a likeable young man, I got on better with Jeremy than I did with my own son
Barbra Wilson - I thought Jeremy would come after me and kill me
I dread to think what her son was like then ;D
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Barbra Wilson - Jeremy is a likeable young man, I got on better with Jeremy than I did with my own son
Barbra Wilson - I thought Jeremy would come after me and kill me
I dread to think what her son was like then ;D
OMG I dread to think :)) :)) :))
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Everyone, including Bamber changed their statements. Lots of times. A WS has to be right as it is what they will cross examined on at court.
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Barbra Wilson - Jeremy is a likeable young man, I got on better with Jeremy than I did with my own son
Barbra Wilson - I thought Jeremy would come after me and kill me
I dread to think what her son was like then ;D
Perhaps she likes to live on the edge? ;D ;D
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Everyone, including Bamber changed their statements. Lots of times. A WS has to be right as it is what they will cross examined on at court.
what even the police?
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Everyone, including Bamber changed their statements. Lots of times. A WS has to be right as it is what they will cross examined on at court.
adam what specifically are you talking about when u say bamber changed his statements
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Yes I am interested in where Jeremy changed his statements- he is probably just talking about the sequence of calls and if you read the full interviews that is not entirely true.
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Yes I am interested in where Jeremy changed his statements- he is probably just talking about the sequence of calls and if you read the full interviews that is not entirely true.
Jeremy forgot many of the finer details, thigs you would expect him to remember if true.
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Read the first page in a novel without trying hard to remember all the details, wait an hour or two, then try to write down all the details that were on that page. Then try it again, using a different novel, but reading the first page at 3 o'clock in the morning.
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I can't even tell you what I had for dinner half the time.
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Read the first page in a novel without trying hard to remember all the details, wait an hour or two, then try to write down all the details that were on that page. Then try it again, using a different novel, but reading the first page at 3 o'clock in the morning.
How is that even remotely similar to remembering acted out REAL LIFE events that have impacted on your life?
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How is that even remotely similar to remembering acted out REAL LIFE events that have impacted on your life?
i suppose you could try and recall a traumatic event and recall all the details.
something happened to me and i was asked to recall it in a statement, i couldnt immediately remember everything. It was wheni was much calmer and not stressed that things came back to me. I was really confused to start with and then i would say oh yeah that was what happened.
even many years later i have a completely different record of events in my head to what my statements say. When i read my statements i blimey i had forgotten that happened .
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adam what specifically are you talking about when u say bamber changed his statements
Of course Bamber and his lawyers would have done several drafts before submitting a WS. These things take time.
Even so, his WS was poor (TAC).
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* Verbal testimonies leave a case wide open to fraud,especially when there is no forensic evidence, i.e altered/edited statements.
Whether anyone likes it or not,the case HAS to be reviewed given the amount of evidence which was also withheld, whether or not it has relevance.
* Because of this, it would be part-reason why the case has and is dragging on where no-one claims responsibility for how the case was originally pursued.
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Strange how two murder cases within a year or so of each other should see the same name in relation to how each case was presented ( overseen ).
The then top officer and also former Assistant Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, John Yates. It was this character who Jeremy wrote or referred to when complaining to the IPCC.
In both cases files/documents/ relating to the murders were either " missing " or being purposely withheld.
The other murder as mentioned was in 1987 and was that of Daniel Morgan whose family had called for a judicial enquiry into the way the investigation had been carried out.