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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: David1819 on February 05, 2015, 08:51:PM

Title: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: David1819 on February 05, 2015, 08:51:PM
I have read somewhere that Ann Eaton has kept most of WHF as it was on the night of the killings.

Is this true? Each to there own but that is rather creepy
Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: Caroline on February 05, 2015, 08:53:PM
I have read somewhere that Ann Eaton has kept most of WHF as it was on the night of the killings.

Is this true? Each to there own but that is rather creepy

No, she moved there, it's her home.
Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: susan on February 05, 2015, 08:54:PM
david I have read that too not sure to what extent but it has been discussed on here.
Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: Jan on February 05, 2015, 09:02:PM
I think it is true to the extent that last time it was filmed it had not been redecorated .
Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: Alias on February 05, 2015, 09:06:PM
David, we have a couple of recent pictures of Ann Eaton inside WHF. The Aga is still there, but is white, I believe the second photo is from June and Nevill´s bedroom. Same closets, same chair, so yes, they pretty much kept it as it was.

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Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: tyler on February 05, 2015, 09:07:PM
Hi David. It is true that the farmhouse was kept pretty much the same until at least 2002. As in the same decor and a lot of the original furnishings.
Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: susan on February 05, 2015, 09:08:PM
Jan think I read that they left it almost as it was for any filming that may have  been done.  This is just what I have read and have no source to verify this
Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: lookout on February 05, 2015, 09:13:PM
 I don't know about now,but at first there was an old lampshade which had  probably seen better days,festooned with blood spots.Wall paper too had the odd splash here and there,then we musn't forget the cobweb in the cupboard which had blood on it which AE rang the police about.1991,I think.

A stranger question which AE posed was why so much carpet had been cut away ?  ::)

I couldn't have gone in there, as prior to the murders, going back years,were another couple of sad events. No way would I have ever settled there.
Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: susan on February 05, 2015, 09:15:PM
Hello tyler I find that so creepy and sinister.
Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: Alias on February 05, 2015, 09:18:PM
I just see that it is the same wallpaper - and possibly the same rug - in the bedroom. It is a bit strange. To me it is anyway, people are different.

Didn´t Ann Eaton say that her children had nightmares after they moved to the farm?
Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: David1819 on February 05, 2015, 09:21:PM
Hello tyler I find that so creepy and sinister.

That is why I am asking. certainly very strange  ???

I really can not think of a reason why someone would want to do that
Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: tyler on February 06, 2015, 12:14:AM
There is a photograph of another angle of the main bedroom in the photo thread,that I believe was taken before the 2002 appeal. I understand that the carpet was taken up in order to try to recover blood from the floorboards. The photo shows the Eaton's bed with some items upon it and over to the left of the room there are books on shelves and a mans dark coloured polo top on a hanger,if I remember correctly. Sorry,I dont know how to bring the photo over from the other thread.
Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: tyler on February 06, 2015, 12:33:AM
Hope this works!
Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: Patti on February 06, 2015, 12:38:AM
Hope this works!

Hahaha Brilliant Tyler, was just going to post it for and you beat me to it.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Still very much the same.  There is a comment made by AE in her COLP statement, something about "Jeremy wanted to keep the house as shrine and would not allow any changes to the house inside and he still wont budge to this day" or something like that? ....I've never been sure about what she meant.... ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: scipio_usmc on February 06, 2015, 12:53:AM
I have read somewhere that Ann Eaton has kept most of WHF as it was on the night of the killings.

Is this true? Each to there own but that is rather creepy

There are people who turn things into a shrine, they will leave things exactly as it was as if the victims still live there.  She didn't do that though she moved in and changed what she wanted to. Obviously for a historical place you are not going to do significant renovation changes just decor/furniture changes o suit your own taste.

I much prefer life going on to the kind of crap they did in SandyHook Connecticut.  They decided to demolish the school where Adam Lanza went on his rampage and to build a new one.  What a waste to demolish a perfectly fine building to put up another jkust because peopel have mental problems over the tragedy.  Demolishing the building is not going to heal their mental problems they should be dealt with through counseling etc.

They also plan to demolish the mansion the Lanza's lived in which is another waste to me.  I have to laugh at people who are supposedly so environmental conscious that they waste resources so readily for emotional problems.

I think demolishing a historical place because there was a tragedy would be another tragedy and huge waste so am glad WHF was not demolished.

 
Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: tyler on February 06, 2015, 02:05:AM
Hahaha Brilliant Tyler, was just going to post it for and you beat me to it.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Still very much the same.  There is a comment made by AE in her COLP statement, something about "Jeremy wanted to keep the house as shrine and would not allow any changes to the house inside and he still wont budge to this day" or something like that? ....I've never been sure about what she meant.... ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yeah,realised I just had to save photo to my pc and repost  :-[ idiot that I am lol.
I vaguely remember reading AE staing that,but it doesn't ring true at all. The Eatons did not move in to whf until the early 90's so Jeremy was obviously long convicted and would have had no say in the matter at all. Especially since whf and most of its land belongs to the Henry Smith Trust anyway. I guess farming families are too busy to be concerned with decor and AE doesnt appear to be the sentimental emotional type. If she were,she would never have agreed to move in in the first place.
Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: scipio_usmc on February 06, 2015, 02:14:AM
Yeah,realised I just had to save photo to my pc and repost  :-[ idiot that I am lol.
I vaguely remember reading AE staing that,but it doesn't ring true at all. The Eatons did not move in to whf until the early 90's so Jeremy was obviously long convicted and would have had no say in the matter at all. Especially since whf and most of its land belongs to the Henry Smith Trust anyway. I guess farming families are too busy to be concerned with decor and AE doesnt appear to be the sentimental emotional type. If she were,she would never have agreed to move in in the first place.

Some people who are sentimental would want to move in on purpose for that reason rather than let strangers take over.

There are also different levels of shrines.

There are shrines because one is upset and shrines because one wants to remember what they have done.  Murderers often keep trophys and that can end up biting them in the arse.


Jeremy initially told the family he would never step foot in WHF again and wanted to keep it as a shrine to the victims.  Not long after he went inside and ended up helping clean it out.  Did he mean this and rapidly change his mind or was it just an act because he thought that is how a grieving son should behave?  Did he want a shrine to help him relive his glorious crime?  y own sense is he was putting on an act playing the grieving son so said he would never step foot inside again and make it a shrine to the victims. The speed with which he changed course along with other acts he put on all fall into place.

Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: Alias on February 06, 2015, 03:00:AM
Yeah,realised I just had to save photo to my pc and repost  :-[ idiot that I am lol.
I vaguely remember reading AE staing that,but it doesn't ring true at all. The Eatons did not move in to whf until the early 90's so Jeremy was obviously long convicted and would have had no say in the matter at all. Especially since whf and most of its land belongs to the Henry Smith Trust anyway. I guess farming families are too busy to be concerned with decor and AE doesnt appear to be the sentimental emotional type. If she were,she would never have agreed to move in in the first place.

You can just right click on any picture online, copy the image address, paste it here and "wrap" it in "insert image" (one of the "buttons" above - second row number two). It is much faster that way. But good job - and as long as it works, all is good!!  :)
Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: guest154 on February 06, 2015, 03:17:PM
Clearly a different rug.
Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: David1819 on February 06, 2015, 06:41:PM
There are people who turn things into a shrine, they will leave things exactly as it was as if the victims still live there.  She didn't do that though she moved in and changed what she wanted to. Obviously for a historical place you are not going to do significant renovation changes just decor/furniture changes o suit your own taste.

I much prefer life going on to the kind of crap they did in SandyHook Connecticut.  They decided to demolish the school where Adam Lanza went on his rampage and to build a new one.  What a waste to demolish a perfectly fine building to put up another jkust because peopel have mental problems over the tragedy.  Demolishing the building is not going to heal their mental problems they should be dealt with through counseling etc.

They also plan to demolish the mansion the Lanza's lived in which is another waste to me.  I have to laugh at people who are supposedly so environmental conscious that they waste resources so readily for emotional problems.

I think demolishing a historical place because there was a tragedy would be another tragedy and huge waste so am glad WHF was not demolished.

I did not suggest it should be demolished. But I would certainly want a place redecorated if I was in that situation. I never knew sandy hook was demolished that's is a waste, However what they done at columbine was perfectly reasonable just by redecorating it removing the library floor making a large open space unrecognizable to what it was.

Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: scipio_usmc on February 06, 2015, 08:32:PM
I did not suggest it should be demolished. But I would certainly want a place redecorated if I was in that situation. I never knew sandy hook was demolished that's is a waste, However what they done at columbine was perfectly reasonable just by redecorating it removing the library floor making a large open space unrecognizable to what it was.

How much to redecorate something is always a matter of taste though wanting to keep something as a momento can come into play as well when the place you take over was owned by a relative who died no matter how they died.

I personally hate the farm style so would have changed everything tremendously.
Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: Jane on February 06, 2015, 08:35:PM
How much to redecorate something is always a matter of taste though wanting to keep something as a momento can come into play as well when the place you take over was owned by a relative who died no matter how they died.

I personally hate the farm style so would have changed everything tremendously.


I think there are parameters which have to be adhered to in period houses.
Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: scipio_usmc on February 06, 2015, 08:55:PM

I think there are parameters which have to be adhered to in period houses.

Mainly that is on the outside. In a historical home they even control what color paints you can use on the outside of your own home. The inside limitations are usually more structural as opposed to decor like you can't rip down walls to create an open floor plan.

If someone else owns the home like WHF then you it doesn't matter whether it is historical or not you are stuck with any limitation the owner decides to place and we obviously don't know what those limitations are so that is a fair point. 

If I wanted to live in some old place it would be a castle not a farmhouse.   

Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: Patti on February 06, 2015, 08:59:PM
Mainly that is on the outside. In a historical home they even control what color paints you can use on the outside of your own home. The inside limitations are usually more structural as opposed to decor like you can't rip down walls to create an open floor plan.

If someone else owns the home like WHF then you it doesn't matter whether it is historical or not you are stuck with any limitation the owner decides to place and we obviously don't know what those limitations are so that is a fair point. 

If I wanted to live in some old place it would be a castle not a farmhouse.

I take it you don't like ducks then or Moo Cow's.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: lookout on February 06, 2015, 09:08:PM
I shouldn't imagine there are many castles in the States.
Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: Jane on February 06, 2015, 09:15:PM
Mainly that is on the outside. In a historical home they even control what color paints you can use on the outside of your own home. The inside limitations are usually more structural as opposed to decor like you can't rip down walls to create an open floor plan.

If someone else owns the home like WHF then you it doesn't matter whether it is historical or not you are stuck with any limitation the owner decides to place and we obviously don't know what those limitations are so that is a fair point. 

If I wanted to live in some old place it would be a castle not a farmhouse.



I was thinking more about balance. Don't think anyone would do a retro interior in a Georgian house, for instance. Our farmhouses come in very different sizes and periods. I have friends who live in a magnificent Tudor farmhouse. I've known others who have lived in ghastly modern new builds. Ya pays ya money and takes ya choice.
Title: Re: is White house farm being preserved as it was?
Post by: scipio_usmc on February 06, 2015, 09:27:PM
I shouldn't imagine there are many castles in the States.

Just mansions styled like them but you need a lot of money to afford one. Most of the nice old mansions have been torn down though.  After the death of the original owner they were usually donated for institutional use, ran into the ground then abandoned, vandals swoop in stealing/burning and then what was left would be demolished to make way condos or smaller homes.

In my younger days I enjoyed visiting abandoned places and exploring them.