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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: mike tesko on August 06, 2012, 12:23:PM
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Why falsify which autopsy, was performed first?
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Why falsify which autopsy, was performed first?
No wonder the original autopsy notes appear to have gione missing (reportedly stolen during a burglary), mmmnnnn...
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No wonder the original autopsy notes appear to have gione missing (reportedly stolen during a burglary), mmmnnnn...
I mean - why the fuck would any burglar or would be thief, be interested in stealing a set of autopsy notes, relating to this case?
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I mean - why the fuck would any burglar or would be thief, be interested in stealing a set of autopsy notes, relating to this case?
OK, lets get down to the business part of this thread - the so called order that the five autopsies were performed by pathologist, Peter Venezis (didn't he also carry out an autopsy once, on Princess Diana)?
Order of reported autopsy
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(1) - Ralph Bamber
(2) - Sheila Caffell
(3) - June Bamber
(4) - Daniel Caffell
(5) - Nicholas Caffell
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OK, lets get down to the business part of this thread - the so called order that the five autopsies were performed by pathologist, Peter Venezis (didn't he also carry out an autopsy once, on Princess Diana)?
Order of reported autopsy
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(1) - Ralph Bamber
(2) - Sheila Caffell
(3) - June Bamber
(4) - Daniel Caffell
(5) - Nicholas Caffell
Photographs were being taken during each autopsy, and recorded on consecutively numbered or marked negative strips...
Ralph first, then Sheila, then June, then Daniel, and lastly Nicholas - a piece of cake to check this information out, nothing could be any simpler - er, could somebody check the Stokenchurch register schedule out, which deals with the order that photographs were taken in, and check if any of this pans out exactly as it should do.?
I will be away for about half an hour or more, so I can't check myself at the moment...
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Yes, Stokenchurch is in the same order you posted above.
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Yes, Stokenchurch is in the same order you posted above.
Just got back, checking myself and found this discrepancy:-
"Autopsy photographs taken of Sheila Caffells autopsy were taken on a strip of film before similar photographs were taken of autopsy carried out on Ralph Bamber, now how could that happen, if the autopsy performed on Ralph Bamber, was carried out before the autopsy performed by Pathologist, Peter Venezis, on corpse of Sheila Caffell?
"So, what's been going on, here then"?
Lets get the facts right, so there is no mistake, here are the photograph numbers from the "Stokenchurch register schedule" relating to all the photographs that were taken:-
Sheila Caffell:-
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photograph No.133 - Post mortem of Sheila Caffell
photograph No.134 - Post mortem of Sheila Caffell
photograph No.135 - Post mortem of Sheila Caffell
photograph No.136 - Post mortem of Sheila Caffell
photograph No.137 - Post mortem of Sheila Caffell
photograph No.138 - Post mortem of Sheila Caffell
photograph No.139 - Post mortem of Sheila Caffell
photograph No.140 - Post mortem of Sheila Caffell
Ralph Bamber:-
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photograph No.146 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.147 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.148 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.149 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.150 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.151 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.152 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.153 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.154 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.155 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.156 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.157 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.158 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.159 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.160 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.161 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
(http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1237.0;attach=6293;image)
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So, Post mortem photographs were taken of post mortem examination performed on Sheila Caffell, before similar photographs were taken of the post mortem examination carried out on Ralph Bamber, but how can this be if the post mortem examination was carried out on Ralph Bamber, first?
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I mean - why the fuck would any burglar or would be thief, be interested in stealing a set of autopsy notes, relating to this case?
Be the same one who stole " Taff " Jones's notebook from his loft.!
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Why weren't times of deaths recorded.?
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Something very dodgy has been going on here, because if autopsy performed on Ralph Bamber was performed first, how can photographs of Sheila Caffells post mortem examination be taken before those relating to Ralph's post mortem?
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"Stokenchurch register schedule" is not a copy of the "COURT ALBUM"(50) index, since it provides details of photographs taken during the autopsy up to and inclusive of photograph number 189, but it does include the same general sequence of events, as described in the "COURT ALBUM" (50), and does not contain any evidence that PC Bird took any photographs of Sheila's body in the bedroom before he took photographs No. 23 which shows the rifle that fired the fatal bullet that killed Sheila, resting against the bedroom window. So, why was PC Bird telling the court during his testimony that photograph 23 was the third photograph he took after he came out of the bedroom, where he had been photographing Sheila and June?
When he said this, the jury would have been fooled into thinking and accepting that photographs 27 to 32 had been taken before the rifle was photographed resting against the window (23), when all along they were not taken until after PC Bird photographed (23) the rifle there - this means of course that if the rifle was resting against the bedroom window (23) before it was photographed on Sheila's body (27 to 32), that a police officer must have moved the rifle from the window, onto the body, contrary to what DI "Ron" Cook, told the court when he testified during the same proceedings, since and I will remind every one what he said on that occasion - he said that he moved Sheila's hand from the gun to allow PC Bird to take a photograph of bloodied marks on the front lower right hand side of her nightdress, and that he then removed the rifle from Sheila's body, and stood it up against the bedroom window, which then allowed PC Bird to then photograph it (23) from the vantage point of the middle landing of the main stairs? But this could not have happened at all, because no pictures of Sheila's body were taken until after photograph 23 was taken, only some which showed Sheila's body in the bedroom on the bed, minus the rifle...
"Ron" Cook, perjured himself when he testified during Jeremy's trial, he told a pack of lies about the significance of the rifle that shot the fatal bullet (PV/19) under the chin of Sheila Caffell, and how the rifle itself ended up on her body in time for PC Bird to photograph it there in time for photograph 27 to 32 to be taken (after 23, not before it was taken) - he conspired with others to cover up the circumstances relating to how the police shot and killed Sheila in the bedroom. Every member of the SOC team inside that farmhouse are involved in a conspiracy to suppress the truth about what took place, involving senior police officers, and others, who will all have to face the music at some stage now that the truth is beginning to emerge as to what took place...
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Then of course...
Is the sequence with which all the negatives were taken, which Mr Sutherst has examined, as compared to these photographic schedules?
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Then of course...
Is the sequence with which all the negatives were taken, which Mr Sutherst has examined, as compared to these photographic schedules?
Why wasn't these negatives exhibited, or at least a true schedule made up to show the exact sequence that photographs were taken in?
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Something very dodgy has been going on here, because if autopsy performed on Ralph Bamber was performed first, how can photographs of Sheila Caffells post mortem examination be taken before those relating to Ralph's post mortem?
Because they were>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheila was examined first and foremost then Nevill, June and the twins the following day.
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"Ron" Cook, perjured himself when he testified during Jeremy's trial, he told a pack of lies about the significance of the rifle that shot the fatal bullet (PV/19) under the chin of Sheila Caffell, and how the rifle itself ended up on her body in time for PC Bird to photograph it there in time for photograph 27 to 32 to be taken (after 23, not before it was taken) - he conspired with others to cover up the circumstances relating to how the police shot and killed Sheila in the bedroom. Every member of the SOC team inside that farmhouse are involved in a conspiracy to suppress the truth about what took place, involving senior police officers, and others, who will all have to face the music at some stage now that the truth is beginning to emerge as to what took place...
I don't know why you bother with this fiction since Sheila was dead way before any police officer entered the house. You are deluding yourself if you believe for a single moment that some anonymous police officer shot Sheila with a shot specifically targeted at her neck. Pure dribble. ;D
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Because they were>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheila was examined first and foremost then Nevill, June and the twins the following day.
Well bird brain, how come the first bullets recovered during the autopsy came from Ralph Bamber, stop deluding yourself, you know nothing at all, about anything...
Bullets recovered from Ralph Bamber during autopsy:-
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PV/2
PV/3
PV/4
PV/5
PV/8
PV/9
PV/10
PV/11
Bullets recovered from Sheila Caffell during autopsy:-
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PV/19
PV/20
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Well bird brain, how come the first bullets recovered during the autopsy came from Ralph Bamber, stop deluding yourself, you know nothing at all, about anything...
Bullets recovered from Ralph Bamber during autopsy:-
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PV/2
PV/3
PV/4
PV/5
PV/8
PV/9
Bullets recovered from Sheila Caffell during autopsy:-
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PV/19
PV/20
And this is relevant why exactly?
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And this is relevant why exactly?
Because the bullets were given the pathologists exhibit references (PV/2, PV/3, etc) in sequential order, and because of this the autopsy performed on Ralph Bamber must have taken place first and foremost, but this is contradicted by the numbered photographs which were taken of the autopsy performed on Ralph Bamber because these were taken after the autopsy photographs taken relating to Sheila's autopsy...
There has been one almighty mix up, for one reason or another, that should never have happened, but in this case it did? order which exhibits were taken in, contradicts order that pathology photographs were taken in - has to be a reason for this mix up / mistake?
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Because the bullets were given the pathologists exhibit references (PV/2, PV/3, etc) in sequential order, and because of this the autopsy performed on Ralph Bamber must have taken place first and foremost, but this is contradicted by the numbered photographs which were taken of the autopsy performed on Ralph Bamber because these were taken after the autopsy photographs taken relating to Sheila's autopsy...
There has been one almighty mix up, for one reason or another, that should never have happened, but in this case it did? order which exhibits were taken in, contradicts order that pathology photographs were taken in - has to be a reason for this mix up / mistake?
Not necessarily, by that logic there are 14 bullets missing since the bullets references by Dr Peter Vanezis goes right up to PV36 and there only was 22 bullet casings found.
In fact if you look at the handwritten schedule the two bullets taken fro Sheila are numbered 1 and 2.
Better luck next time. ;D
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Not necessarily, by that logic there are 14 bullets missing since the bullets references by Dr Peter Vanezis goes right up to PV36 and there only was 22 bullet casings found.
In fact if you look at the handwritten schedule the two bullets taken fro Sheila are numbered 1 and 2.
Better luck next time. ;D
Go back to school and learn how to read...
Other so called missing PV exhibits were samples, and for your information (not that it matters) the two bullets recovered from Sheila during autopsy, had the identifying marks of PV/19 and PV/20 - oh, sorry I just made that up, like everything else I make up, by gum I've been caught out by someone with far superior intelligence to mine, I wonder how that happened, malfunction, malfunction, malfunction...
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Go back to school and learn how to read...
Other so called missing PV exhibits were samples, and for your information (not that it matters) the two bullets recovered from Sheila during autopsy, had the identifying marks of PV/19 and PV/20 - oh, sorry I just made that up, like everything else I make up, by gum I've been caught out by someone with far superior intelligence to mine, I wonder how that happened, malfunction, malfunction, malfunction...
Youre obviously struggling to maintain a coherent approach to this case but then again that must be hard for you with so many fantasy theories. The police shot Sheila>>>>>>>>> what a load of bollocks.
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Youre obviously struggling to maintain a coherent approach to this case but then again that must be hard for you with so many fantasy theories. The police shot Sheila>>>>>>>>> what a load of bollocks.
Well, good bye then, no more bedtime stories for you, from me...
Bye...
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Well, good bye then, no more bedtime stories for you, from me...
Bye...
Youve been reading too many Miss Marple murder mysteries by the look of it. Off to the Olympics for me so ta ta.....enjoy your fantasies.
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Youve been reading too many Miss Marple murder mysteries by the look of it. Off to the Olympics for me so ta ta.....enjoy your fantasies.
Bye, don't rush back you might do yourself a mischief....