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OTHER HIGH PROFILE CASES => Luke Mitchell and the murder of Jodi Jones => Topic started by: Parky41 on November 28, 2023, 10:30:PM
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These are direct links to SM's court testimony, if one goes into the links they can access further, other transcripts from the trial. They tell a different tale from the narrative that has been in place for many years, exposing a myriad of lies, that false narrative in place by LM's chief campaigners?
10th January https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/shane-mitchell-100105-transcript-day.html
12th January https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/shane-mitchell-full-transcript-12012005.html
13th January https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/shane-mitchell-full-transcript-13012005.html
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Thanks Parky41
Haven't got time to read it at the moment. But looks very interesting.
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Looks like you have all the transcripts Parky?
I found this interesting..
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-parka-jacket-and-witnesses.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-parka-jacket-and-witnesses.html)
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Looks like you have all the transcripts Parky?
I found this interesting..
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-parka-jacket-and-witnesses.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-parka-jacket-and-witnesses.html)
The transcripts have been obtained by avid Innocence supporters, top campaigners. Who are feeling pretty let down by the narrative they have been fed, the dishonesty. Only a handful been put up so far, even with that small selection there are many lies being exposed.
The parka was one such area.
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The transcripts have been obtained by avid Innocence supporters, top campaigners. Who are feeling pretty let down by the narrative they have been fed, the dishonesty. Only a handful been put up so far, even with that small selection there are many lies being exposed.
The parka was one such area.
I can't see how this changes anything. Shane Mitchell is unable to give Luke an alibi, or have I got that wrong?
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I can't see how this changes anything. Shane Mitchell is unable to give Luke an alibi, or have I got that wrong?
Seemed to be that Shane couldn't swear one way or another if Luke was in the kitchen when he came down stairs at 5.15,but was 80% sure that Luke wasn't in the house or at least he didn't remember seeing him.
We have to remember that both Luke and Corrine passed the lie detector test,for what its worth.
Shane would be little use in a polygraph if his memory is addled with drug use as claimed.
If Luke was not in the house,it means he must have loitered about till around 6.20 when Shane left before entering the house.Oh well,that would tie in with burning the parka at 6.30 I suppose.
Would he have loitered in the streets without washing? I think Parky claims he washed in the river after the murders.I dont know the area,but he had about 25-30 minutes after Jodi was murdered before he was sighted at the end of the path.
Dont know why he loitered so long before going home after the murders though.
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I suppose when you think about it,all of the sightings at the Newbattle side of the path are meaningless,either all the witnesse's were viewing Luke on his way home from killing Jodi or seeing him after he had left his mums house after having his supper.
It would only make a difference if someone saw Luke enter or leave his mothers house.
Tho only sighting that matters is that of Andrina Bryson,placing Luke at the Newhouses end of the path.
Without that sighting Luke would not have been found guilty.
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I suppose when you think about it,all of the sightings at the Newbattle side of the path are meaningless,either all the witnesse's were viewing Luke on his way home from killing Jodi or seeing him after he had left his mums house after having his supper.
It would only make a difference if someone saw Luke enter or leave his mothers house.
Tho only sighting that matters is that of Andrina Bryson,placing Luke at the Newhouses end of the path.
Without that sighting Luke would not have been found guilty.
I agree with that, along with other circumstantial evidence.
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You have to consider what would have been said between Shane and Corrine if Luke was not in the house at supper time.For instance,when they met in the kitchen at 5.15 did Corrine ask Shane where Luke was?
Was there any food waiting for them? If not,wouldn't it have stuck in Shane's mind that Luke was not in the house and there was no hot food for them? What did they eat,if not the tatties and steak pies?
Shane didn't leave again till 6.20,wasn't Lukes absence discussed at all?
Luke wasn't Shanes responsibility and his absence would not have caused any concern,but surely to god Corrine would have asked him why Luke wasn't home from school and why he hadn't made the supper?
Surely some sort of discussion happened.
And remember,at this stage neither Shane nor Corrine were aware of the murder,so Corrine couldn't have been trying to dupe Shane in any way to cover for Luke's absence.No,common sense tells us that some sort of discussion must have taken place between Shane and his mother if Luke wasn't there at supper time.
Does this point to Luke being present in the house at supper time after all? Hence no discussion of his absence or the fact that no supper was on the table took place.
After all,it wasn't in the least bit necessary for Shane to see or make contact with Luke at supper time,indeed it was made clear in court that they had little in common.No,the main thing would be Luke making contact with Corrine,which she has always said there was before he left at 5.40.A time when Shane may have been upstairs having his supper.And again,Luke and Corrine's polygraphs have to be taken into account.
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You have to consider what would have been said between Shane and Corrine if Luke was not in the house at supper time.For instance,when they met in the kitchen at 5.15 did Corrine ask Shane where Luke was?
Was there any food waiting for them? If not,wouldn't it have stuck in Shane's mind that Luke was not in the house and there was no hot food for them? What did they eat,if not the tatties and steak pies?
Shane didn't leave again till 6.20,wasn't Lukes absence discussed at all?
Luke wasn't Shanes responsibility and his absence would not have caused any concern,but surely to god Corrine would have asked him why Luke wasn't home from school and why he hadn't made the supper?
Surely some sort of discussion happened.
And remember,at this stage neither Shane nor Corrine were aware of the murder,so Corrine couldn't have been trying to dupe Shane in any way to cover for Luke's absence.No,common sense tells us that some sort of discussion must have taken place between Shane and his mother if Luke wasn't there at supper time.
Does this point to Luke being present in the house at supper time after all? Hence no discussion of his absence or the fact that no supper was on the table took place.
After all,it wasn't in the least bit necessary for Shane to see or make contact with Luke at supper time,indeed it was made clear in court that they had little in common.No,the main thing would be Luke making contact with Corrine,which she has always said there was before he left at 5.40.A time when Shane may have been upstairs having his supper.And again,Luke and Corrine's polygraphs have to be taken into account.
An alibi given by a mother for a son is nigh on worthless. I haven't noticed Shane in the mass media being vocal about his brother's innocence either.
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An alibi given by a mother for a son is nigh on worthless. I haven't noticed Shane in the mass media being vocal about his brother's innocence either.
Is the polygraph worthless Steve?
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Is the polygraph worthless Steve?
It can be faked, yes. Ask Gary Ridgway.
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Ana Justice
@AnaJusticeLM[Name removed]
It's been stated by Mr Forbes and his followers that these details are trivial - actually, I'm finding that some of the fundamental points that convinced me of the guilt of others, weren't even true. That's not trivial, by any means.
6:21 PM · Nov 27, 2023
Ok, so this is what I meant about a false narrative in place, the exposure of many lies, which leaves the question, 'If this is what we are discovering here then what else has been manipulated and lied about?' It would seem that both SL and SF's were under the impression, safeguard even, of believing transcripts would never be made public, still under the safeguard of this being the case with statements in full? Attempting repeatedly to try and stop people from obtaining them?
I first started commenting on this case because of lies I knew were in place. I took to studying what had been put out, intricately. Which was never around guilt/innocence. The ludicrous application of some giant conspiracy just to fit LM up. Therefore I set myself a question, an area to study around. Why did suspicion fall upon LM, why could he not be eliminated as suspect in the young girls murder? Realism and not fallacy.
The alibi - If SM, genuinely, within such a short period of time, had complete amnesia from the moment he finished work, then that is what he clearly should have stuck with? Is it really believable however, that someones memory was selective in what was lost? Which was around that crucial time of day. What of his alibi? Was it, that after playing the 'I cannot remember,' did he realise, wait a minute, I am going to need an alibi here also? There we have the birth of the story of them all being together, interacting with each other? Whilst perhaps trying to evade what he had been doing, thinking at first perhaps, my watching porn and masturbating has nothing to do with the young girls murder, but it did, even in its simplest form, he also required an alibi? Strength in numbers?
Compare - If he had no amnesia, why would he have initially played the cannot remember card? Did this show that SM was not wanting directly involved in that alibi for his brother? Wanting to be part of becoming entangled in lying for him, therefore lying by omission instead? He may very well have been aware of far more and wanting nothing to do with it. It doesn't necessarily point towards believing his younger brother had murdered someone, but certainly that he was not home.
All in all, it really is a tangled mess of lies, it doesn't matter which way you swing it - LM was clearly not home at that point. The original alibi ran from 5:05pm until 5:40pm, it was CCTV and phone logs that showed those times to be completely wrong. We have CM arriving home just after 5:15pm, SM's internet session ending at 5:16pm, we have LM saying he had made the call from the wall at the entrance of the estate, first call at 5:32pm. The original alibi around 35mins, evaporated to around 13mins, which did not fit around that evenly spaced out, very relaxed dinner tale.
Porn and masturbating - Does not just take place in an empty house. It does however bring with it awareness. We are conscious to the presence of others, alert to any noise/movement, alert to any risk of being caught/interrupted. What the AD was demonstrating, was that it was never simply that he may not have seen his brother, he had not seen him, nor heard him. Clearly hearing his mother arriving home and ending his internet session. LM claimed to have been listening to music whilst making dinner.
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Ok, so this is what I meant about a false narrative in place, the exposure of many lies, which leaves the question, 'If this is what we are discovering here then what else has been manipulated and lied about?' It would seem that both SL and SF's were under the impression, safeguard even, of believing transcripts would never be made public, still under the safeguard of this being the case with statements in full? Attempting repeatedly to try and stop people from obtaining them?
I first started commenting on this case because of lies I knew were in place. I took to studying what had been put out, intricately. Which was never around guilt/innocence. The ludicrous application of some giant conspiracy just to fit LM up. Therefore I set myself a question, an area to study around. Why did suspicion fall upon LM, why could he not be eliminated as suspect in the young girls murder? Realism and not fallacy.
The alibi - If SM, genuinely, within such a short period of time, had complete amnesia from the moment he finished work, then that is what he clearly should have stuck with? Is it really believable however, that someones memory was selective in what was lost? Which was around that crucial time of day. What of his alibi? Was it, that after playing the 'I cannot remember,' did he realise, wait a minute, I am going to need an alibi here also? There we have the birth of the story of them all being together, interacting with each other? Whilst perhaps trying to evade what he had been doing, thinking at first perhaps, my watching porn and masturbating has nothing to do with the young girls murder, but it did, even in its simplest form, he also required an alibi? Strength in numbers?
Compare - If he had no amnesia, why would he have initially played the cannot remember card? Did this show that SM was not wanting directly involved in that alibi for his brother? Wanting to be part of becoming entangled in lying for him, therefore lying by omission instead? He may very well have been aware of far more and wanting nothing to do with it. It doesn't necessarily point towards believing his younger brother had murdered someone, but certainly that he was not home.
All in all, it really is a tangled mess of lies, it doesn't matter which way you swing it - LM was clearly not home at that point. The original alibi ran from 5:05pm until 5:40pm, it was CCTV and phone logs that showed those times to be completely wrong. We have CM arriving home just after 5:15pm, SM's internet session ending at 5:16pm, we have LM saying he had made the call from the wall at the entrance of the estate, first call at 5:32pm. The original alibi around 35mins, evaporated to around 13mins, which did not fit around that evenly spaced out, very relaxed dinner tale.
Porn and masturbating - Does not just take place in an empty house. It does however bring with it awareness. We are conscious to the presence of others, alert to any noise/movement, alert to any risk of being caught/interrupted. What the AD was demonstrating, was that it was never simply that he may not have seen his brother, he had not seen him, nor heard him. Clearly hearing his mother arriving home and ending his internet session. LM claimed to have been listening to music whilst making dinner.
It has been in place for such a long time that SM left home just after dinner, the time applied, inferred, was just after 5:30pm. We see that this was in fact not before 6:20pm. Which points towards any dinner being made after his mother arrived home and not for her arrival home. CM stated that her elder son was in and out all evening, catching her having a fly fag? Yet we see here SM saying he was not home until much later. LM is supposed to have borrowed a torch from his elder brother, we see here that he claimed to be unaware that anything was amiss until the early hours of July 1st.
Ok, so that first call at 5:32pm placing LM by his claims on Newbattle Road just before this. He called his mother at 7pm, again from Newbattle Road (claimed). Claiming the call was to see if Jodi had been to the house. He had called the boys just before 7pm and after 7pm? To arrange the meeting in the Abbey. Approx 80mins is what we are asked to believe, that LM was idling around in one spot waiting on a girl, giving up after such an extraordinary length of time, shrugging his shoulders and arranging to meet with friends instead? A girl who had no phone, no security, walking an isolated path alone, she does not appear? - Again, I am highlighting why valid reason for suspicion fell upon LM. Called the boys back but not his girlfriends house to check where she was?
In that time frame, he was seen by F&W at the wooden gate, several hundred yards from his estate entrance. At approx 5:40pm, his original time he said he had left home. Seen again between here and the estate entrance coming on 6pm. He denies these sightings were him. He is without doubt at the estate entrance, slightly up from it at a point, from 6pm to 6:20pm approx. Seen by people who knew him there. So no sightings of him at the entrance from 5:30pm until touching 6pm, nothing from approx 6:20pm until with the boys in the Abbey well after 7pm. 6:20 - 25pm, SM leaves the estate, he did not see his brother around the entrance of it.
That whilst 5 others saw LM in places he claimed not to have been, no one saw him where he claimed to have been at those times.
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any more trial transcripts anything from john ferris
by the way who is the owner of that blog
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Ok, so this is what I meant about a false narrative in place, the exposure of many lies, which leaves the question, 'If this is what we are discovering here then what else has been manipulated and lied about?' It would seem that both SL and SF's were under the impression, safeguard even, of believing transcripts would never be made public, still under the safeguard of this being the case with statements in full? Attempting repeatedly to try and stop people from obtaining them?
I first started commenting on this case because of lies I knew were in place. I took to studying what had been put out, intricately. Which was never around guilt/innocence. The ludicrous application of some giant conspiracy just to fit LM up. Therefore I set myself a question, an area to study around. Why did suspicion fall upon LM, why could he not be eliminated as suspect in the young girls murder? Realism and not fallacy.
The alibi - If SM, genuinely, within such a short period of time, had complete amnesia from the moment he finished work, then that is what he clearly should have stuck with? Is it really believable however, that someones memory was selective in what was lost? Which was around that crucial time of day. What of his alibi? Was it, that after playing the 'I cannot remember,' did he realise, wait a minute, I am going to need an alibi here also? There we have the birth of the story of them all being together, interacting with each other? Whilst perhaps trying to evade what he had been doing, thinking at first perhaps, my watching porn and masturbating has nothing to do with the young girls murder, but it did, even in its simplest form, he also required an alibi? Strength in numbers?
Compare - If he had no amnesia, why would he have initially played the cannot remember card? Did this show that SM was not wanting directly involved in that alibi for his brother? Wanting to be part of becoming entangled in lying for him, therefore lying by omission instead? He may very well have been aware of far more and wanting nothing to do with it. It doesn't necessarily point towards believing his younger brother had murdered someone, but certainly that he was not home.
All in all, it really is a tangled mess of lies, it doesn't matter which way you swing it - LM was clearly not home at that point. The original alibi ran from 5:05pm until 5:40pm, it was CCTV and phone logs that showed those times to be completely wrong. We have CM arriving home just after 5:15pm, SM's internet session ending at 5:16pm, we have LM saying he had made the call from the wall at the entrance of the estate, first call at 5:32pm. The original alibi around 35mins, evaporated to around 13mins, which did not fit around that evenly spaced out, very relaxed dinner tale.
Porn and masturbating - Does not just take place in an empty house. It does however bring with it awareness. We are conscious to the presence of others, alert to any noise/movement, alert to any risk of being caught/interrupted. What the AD was demonstrating, was that it was never simply that he may not have seen his brother, he had not seen him, nor heard him. Clearly hearing his mother arriving home and ending his internet session. LM claimed to have been listening to music whilst making dinner.
Did Lean have access to and read the transcripts prior to writing the books?
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whos blog is that why are they only listed as bm
do they hae any more transcripts
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It has been in place for such a long time that SM left home just after dinner, the time applied, inferred, was just after 5:30pm. We see that this was in fact not before 6:20pm. Which points towards any dinner being made after his mother arrived home and not for her arrival home. CM stated that her elder son was in and out all evening, catching her having a fly fag? Yet we see here SM saying he was not home until much later. LM is supposed to have borrowed a torch from his elder brother, we see here that he claimed to be unaware that anything was amiss until the early hours of July 1st.
Ok, so that first call at 5:32pm placing LM by his claims on Newbattle Road just before this. He called his mother at 7pm, again from Newbattle Road (claimed). Claiming the call was to see if Jodi had been to the house. He had called the boys just before 7pm and after 7pm? To arrange the meeting in the Abbey. Approx 80mins is what we are asked to believe, that LM was idling around in one spot waiting on a girl, giving up after such an extraordinary length of time, shrugging his shoulders and arranging to meet with friends instead? A girl who had no phone, no security, walking an isolated path alone, she does not appear? - Again, I am highlighting why valid reason for suspicion fell upon LM. Called the boys back but not his girlfriends house to check where she was?
In that time frame, he was seen by F&W at the wooden gate, several hundred yards from his estate entrance. At approx 5:40pm, his original time he said he had left home. Seen again between here and the estate entrance coming on 6pm. He denies these sightings were him. He is without doubt at the estate entrance, slightly up from it at a point, from 6pm to 6:20pm approx. Seen by people who knew him there. So no sightings of him at the entrance from 5:30pm until touching 6pm, nothing from approx 6:20pm until with the boys in the Abbey well after 7pm. 6:20 - 25pm, SM leaves the estate, he did not see his brother around the entrance of it.
That whilst 5 others saw LM in places he claimed not to have been, no one saw him where he claimed to have been at those times.
and we are supposed to belive these documents are real even though there posted by a complety anon person
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and we are supposed to belive these documents are real even though there posted by a complety anon person
We may as well nugnug. Best not to be too cynical amongst the flotsam and jetsam of this site.
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We may as well nugnug. Best not to be too cynical amongst the flotsam and jetsam of this site.
well i in slightly strange that they have only posted transcripts from one witness considreing how many witneses were called.
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We may as well nugnug. Best not to be too cynical amongst the flotsam and jetsam of this site.
If one goes to the left under the BM, they will see Nov 23, you will find more in there.
They are genuine.
There have so far been, full transcripts from AW, SK and SM. Partial transcripts from JaJ's, CM and AH, F&W. The blogger is one of LM's main campaigners whom I believe started to question originally the claim that the general public could not obtain these. Nor that they could be made public.
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If one goes to the left under the BM, they will see Nov 23, you will find more in there.
They are genuine.
There have so far been, full transcripts from AW, SK and SM. Partial transcripts from JaJ's, CM and AH, F&W. The blogger is one of LM's main campaigners whom I believe started to question originally the claim that the general public could not obtain these. Nor that they could be made public.
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Is that what SL and CM told them?
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If one goes to the left under the BM, they will see Nov 23, you will find more in there.
They are genuine.
There have so far been, full transcripts from AW, SK and SM. Partial transcripts from JaJ's, CM and AH, F&W. The blogger is one of LM's main campaigners whom I believe started to question originally the claim that the general public could not obtain these. Nor that they could be made public.
i just hae and found abslutly nothing theres nothing another than the letters bm
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Is that what SL and CM told them?
Yes. Also that there was no requirement to have them, waste of funding when they could do nothing to take the case forward. That one had around 80% thus no need for anyone else to obtain, this then changed to claiming to have 100%, yet they have not all been transcribed. Which then begged the question from some top campaigners of why had these had not been made available for campaigners to see. Bit of a hullabaloo going on there.
Nugnug - Under BM it says archive, press on this it will show Nov 23. Hope that helps.
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Yes. Also that there was no requirement to have them, waste of funding when they could do nothing to take the case forward. That one had around 80% thus no need for anyone else to obtain, this then changed to claiming to have 100%, yet they have not all been transcribed. Which then begged the question from some top campaigners of why had these had not been made available for campaigners to see. Bit of a hullabaloo going on there.
Nugnug - Under BM it says archive, press on this it will show Nov 23. Hope that helps.
Doesn't surprise me. The whole thing reeked of disinformation to begin with.
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Doesn't surprise me. The whole thing reeked of disinformation to begin with.
s msn who made up shite about a forensic breakthrough is talking about disinformation
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Yes. Also that there was no requirement to have them, waste of funding when they could do nothing to take the case forward. That one had around 80% thus no need for anyone else to obtain, this then changed to claiming to have 100%, yet they have not all been transcribed. Which then begged the question from some top campaigners of why had these had not been made available for campaigners to see. Bit of a hullabaloo going on there.
Nugnug - Under BM it says archive, press on this it will show Nov 23. Hope that helps.
no it doesntarchive it says abslutly nothing other than bm
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Alice Walker full transcript 13/12/04
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/alice-walker-full-transcript-131204.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/alice-walker-full-transcript-131204.html)
Steven Kelly Full transcript (10th and 13th Dec 04)
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/steven-kelly-full-transcripts.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/steven-kelly-full-transcripts.html)
The search trio evidence - some testimony from the search trio
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-search-trio-evidence-some-testimony.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-search-trio-evidence-some-testimony.html)
When did Luke's mum hand in the missing knife?
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/when-was-knife-from-pouch-handed-in-to.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/when-was-knife-from-pouch-handed-in-to.html)
The Parka Jacket and 8 Witnesses
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-parka-jacket-and-witnesses.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-parka-jacket-and-witnesses.html)
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posted totaly anomously by sombody calling themselves bm
a bit strange that isnt it
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More transcripts are to be put up shortly:
The problem with blogs such as the alias that is John Smythe, is much of that false narrative that has been in place and spread, is being exposed for being made up of misinformation, clear disinformation/blatant lies where the Mitchell case is concerned.
They have of course been getting exposed along the way, sadly it has taken the release of transcripts to have main supporters of innocence see they have been lied to. Naturally for now, they are still in support of innocence - But they are rightfully questioning these liars. Re-working their own take on things from other source, rather than where their main reliance has been, that blind faith they placed?
If one has been caught blatantly lying from those, the trial, then it is foolish to apply honesty has been met elsewhere, such as statements, forensics, reports, just about anything that has been spun.
Most get it, the tactic to gain public support, placing focus elsewhere, attempting to show self interest in others? - By way of lying, so we remove this focus, we remove that self interest, where we are seeing clearly this has never been the case. What are you left with, where is the strength now around showing LM to be innocent by those means? These others from the police up had not lied, there is no proof that they did. There is however the opposite, the proof that those stating they did, have in fact been the ones who are/have been lying?
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More transcripts are to be put up shortly:
The problem with blogs such as the alias that is John Smythe, is much of that false narrative that has been in place and spread, is being exposed for being made up of misinformation, clear disinformation/blatant lies where the Mitchell case is concerned.
They have of course been getting exposed along the way, sadly it has taken the release of transcripts to have main supporters of innocence see they have been lied to. Naturally for now, they are still in support of innocence - But they are rightfully questioning these liars. Re-working their own take on things from other source, rather than where their main reliance has been, that blind faith they placed?
If one has been caught blatantly lying from those, the trial, then it is foolish to apply honesty has been met elsewhere, such as statements, forensics, reports, just about anything that has been spun.
Most get it, the tactic to gain public support, placing focus elsewhere, attempting to show self interest in others? - By way of lying, so we remove this focus, we remove that self interest, where we are seeing clearly this has never been the case. What are you left with, where is the strength now around showing LM to be innocent by those means? These others from the police up had not lied, there is no proof that they did. There is however the opposite, the proof that those stating they did, have in fact been the ones who are/have been lying?
will they be posted completly anonmously under the bm so nobody can tell id there real or not
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can anyone explian why theres typos in some of these transcripts was there a proof readers strike on at the time
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A lot more transcripts have now been posted on that Blog.
Parky has Sandra made any comments since they have been posted?
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A lot more transcripts have now been posted on that Blog.
Parky has Sandra made any comments since they have been posted?
Nothing publicly, no. Plenty mouthing from Mr Fibs, caught talking to himself again, forgetting to sign out of one account, replying to himself in the third person. - Oops.
I hear there is to be some news, some development in the case. Supposed to have been revealed many weeks ago (familiar?). No doubt one will come out of the woodwork 'if' something else there to distract with.
Mr Fibs appears to be claiming to have left the case now. These two representatives of Mitchell, his voice on the outside. Inciting and encouraging the wilful abuse of the victim in this case. A claimed innocent with zero victim empathy, fancy that.
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PC Anita Dow Full transcript 16/12/2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/pc-anita-dow-full-transcript-16122004.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/pc-anita-dow-full-transcript-16122004.html)
DC Alan Towers evidence 17/12/2004 (Day one of two)
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/dc-alan-towers-evidence-17122004-day.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/dc-alan-towers-evidence-17122004-day.html)
DC Alan Towers 20/12/2004 (Day two of two)
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/dc-alan-towers-20122004-day-two-of-two.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/dc-alan-towers-20122004-day-two-of-two.html)
Rosemary Walsh full transcript 02/12/2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/rosemary-walsh-full-transcript-02122004.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/rosemary-walsh-full-transcript-02122004.html)
Lorraine Fleming full transcript 1/12/2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/rosemary-fleming-full-transcript-1122004.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/rosemary-fleming-full-transcript-1122004.html)
Andrew Holburn (one of three witnesses on bikes, identified Luke and green shirt) full transcript 02/12/2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/andrew-holburn-one-of-three-witnesses.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/andrew-holburn-one-of-three-witnesses.html)
Carol Heatlie witness testimony 02/12/2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/carol-heatlie-witness-testimony-02122004.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/carol-heatlie-witness-testimony-02122004.html)
Janine Jones transcript 10/12/04 (day two)
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/janine-jones-transcript-101204-day-two.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/janine-jones-transcript-101204-day-two.html)
Janine Jones transcript 9/12/04 (day one of two)
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/blog-post.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/blog-post.html)
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PC Anita Dow Full transcript 16/12/2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/pc-anita-dow-full-transcript-16122004.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/pc-anita-dow-full-transcript-16122004.html)
DC Alan Towers evidence 17/12/2004 (Day one of two)
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/dc-alan-towers-evidence-17122004-day.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/dc-alan-towers-evidence-17122004-day.html)
DC Alan Towers 20/12/2004 (Day two of two)
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/dc-alan-towers-20122004-day-two-of-two.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/dc-alan-towers-20122004-day-two-of-two.html)
Rosemary Walsh full transcript 02/12/2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/rosemary-walsh-full-transcript-02122004.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/rosemary-walsh-full-transcript-02122004.html)
Lorraine Fleming full transcript 1/12/2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/rosemary-fleming-full-transcript-1122004.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/rosemary-fleming-full-transcript-1122004.html)
Andrew Holburn (one of three witnesses on bikes, identified Luke and green shirt) full transcript 02/12/2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/andrew-holburn-one-of-three-witnesses.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/andrew-holburn-one-of-three-witnesses.html)
Carol Heatlie witness testimony 02/12/2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/carol-heatlie-witness-testimony-02122004.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/carol-heatlie-witness-testimony-02122004.html)
Janine Jones transcript 10/12/04 (day two)
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/janine-jones-transcript-101204-day-two.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/janine-jones-transcript-101204-day-two.html)
Janine Jones transcript 9/12/04 (day one of two)
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/blog-post.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/blog-post.html)
Ah,there you are,Dave has just produced day two of Alan Towers statement,now we will see how Findlay got on with him.
Thanks Dave,thats handy!
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can anyone explian why theres typos in some of these transcripts was there a proof readers strike on at the time
aperantly not
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A lot more transcripts have now been posted on that Blog.
Parky has Sandra made any comments since they have been posted?
why would you respond to something by a complete anon source that hasn't even been typed correctly
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Nothing publicly, no. Plenty mouthing from Mr Fibs, caught talking to himself again, forgetting to sign out of one account, replying to himself in the third person. - Oops.
I hear there is to be some news, some development in the case. Supposed to have been revealed many weeks ago (familiar?). No doubt one will come out of the woodwork 'if' something else there to distract with.
Mr Fibs appears to be claiming to have left the case now. These two representatives of Mitchell, his voice on the outside. Inciting and encouraging the wilful abuse of the victim in this case. A claimed innocent with zero victim empathy, fancy that.
If she can no longer control the narrative. It wouldn't surprise me if we never hear from her again. :-\
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If she can no longer control the narrative. It wouldn't surprise me if we never hear from her again. :-\
why would she respon to somthing posted from a completly anon source that proides no eence the ddocuments they hae posted a genuine anyone can post somthing anomously and say its an officail document
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Isn't it all down to the testing of the remaining exhibits now anyway?
The stuff,if you will, that managed to escape illegal destruction.
What else can be done?
Isn't Dr Lean in charge of that?
And remember,Dr Lean has said over and again,that if the evidence shows that LM is guilty then so be it!
So why is everyone so hard on the lady? Scammer this and scammer that,and so on!
Lets just see what the testing of evidence shows shall we?
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how come these transcripts contradict a lot of the orginal court reporting from reporters who were actully at the trial
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oh well john smyth seems to belive the transcripts are real https://johnsmytheinvestigations.wordpress.com/2023/12/29/luke-mitchell-case-the-search-party-steven-kelly-transcript-1-4/
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ie crated a new thread to discuss this matter https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,12064.0.html
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"Meanwhile, it has emerged that transcripts from Mitchell’s trial have been shared online by some of his supporters, who have broken away from the “official” group.
One former supporter, who wishes to remain anonymous, said: “Some of the things we’ve been led to believe since the programme have been discovered to not be true. We were always told the transcripts weren’t available but some people have managed to get hold of them and we’re discovering there are facts that have been distorted or withheld. There is blatant bullying and manipulation of vulnerable people going on."
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/luke-mitchells-campaigners-event-banned-28137028 (https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/luke-mitchells-campaigners-event-banned-28137028)
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"Meanwhile, it has emerged that transcripts from Mitchell’s trial have been shared online by some of his supporters, who have broken away from the “official” group.
One former supporter, who wishes to remain anonymous, said: “Some of the things we’ve been led to believe since the programme have been discovered to not be true. We were always told the transcripts weren’t available but some people have managed to get hold of them and we’re discovering there are facts that have been distorted or withheld. There is blatant bullying and manipulation of vulnerable people going on."
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/luke-mitchells-campaigners-event-banned-28137028 (https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/luke-mitchells-campaigners-event-banned-28137028)
are totaly anon sources agian
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are totaly anon sources agian
There is a video from SL from at least 2 years ago where she admits minor mistakes in some of the details in her book which she says will be corrected at the next reprint. I have had a quick scan of the post which details these errors. Yes there are discrepancies. However most seem to be of little consequence to the main issues.
Take the knife and when it was found as an example.
This could be down to a faulty memory of CM whose life had been upended by Luke's arrest. In the end it is not the murder weapon and when it was found or handed in and by who is of no consequence.
This smacks of a counter campaign to undermine the efforts of his supporters who seem to be getting traction in proving his innocence and the realisation that the general public are becoming less convinced of his guilt
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There is a video from SL from at least 2 years ago where she admits minor mistakes in some of the details in her book which she says will be corrected at the next reprint. I have had a quick scan of the post which details these errors. Yes there are discrepancies. However most seem to be of little consequence to the main issues
you can find discrpencys in the work of any auther
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More transcripts have been posted since I last checked.
DC Lindsay testimony 20th and 21st December 2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/03/dc-lindsay-testimony-20th-and-21st.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/03/dc-lindsay-testimony-20th-and-21st.html)
Sgt Thomson testimony 29/12/2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/02/sgt-george-thomson-29122004.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/02/sgt-george-thomson-29122004.html)
Allen Ovens Full transcript 26/11/2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/02/allen-ovens-full-transcript-26122004.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/02/allen-ovens-full-transcript-26122004.html)
Corinne Mitchell testimony day two 14/01/2005
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/01/blog-post_20.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/01/blog-post_20.html)
David High full transcript 3/12/2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/01/blog-post.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/01/blog-post.html)
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More transcripts have been posted since I last checked.
DC Lindsay testimony 20th and 21st December 2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/03/dc-lindsay-testimony-20th-and-21st.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/03/dc-lindsay-testimony-20th-and-21st.html)
Sgt Thomson testimony 29/12/2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/02/sgt-george-thomson-29122004.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/02/sgt-george-thomson-29122004.html)
Allen Ovens Full transcript 26/11/2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/02/allen-ovens-full-transcript-26122004.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/02/allen-ovens-full-transcript-26122004.html)
Corinne Mitchell testimony day two 14/01/2005
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/01/blog-post_20.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/01/blog-post_20.html)
David High full transcript 3/12/2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/01/blog-post.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/01/blog-post.html)
Thanks Dave,they were also posted on the Red Forum,I think the Ferris/Dickie ones are coming soon. That will be interesting.
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More transcripts posted last month.
Andrina Bryson 29th November 2004 (Day one)
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/06/andrina-bryson-29th-november-2004-day.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/06/andrina-bryson-29th-november-2004-day.html)
Andrina Bryson 10th Nov 2004, Day two
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/06/andrina-bryson-10th-nov-2004.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/06/andrina-bryson-10th-nov-2004.html)
SIO Dobbie 30th December 2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/06/sio-dobbie-30th-december-2004.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/06/sio-dobbie-30th-december-2004.html)
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More transcripts posted last month.
Andrina Bryson 29th November 2004 (Day one)
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/06/andrina-bryson-29th-november-2004-day.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/06/andrina-bryson-29th-november-2004-day.html)
Andrina Bryson 10th Nov 2004, Day two
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/06/andrina-bryson-10th-nov-2004.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/06/andrina-bryson-10th-nov-2004.html)
SIO Dobbie 30th December 2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/06/sio-dobbie-30th-december-2004.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/06/sio-dobbie-30th-december-2004.html)
Thanks Dave.
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More LM Trial transcripts posted in the last two month since I last checked.
Dean Houston and Grant Elliot 2/12/2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/08/dean-houston-and-grant-elliot-2122004.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/08/dean-houston-and-grant-elliot-2122004.html)
Derek Scrimger 14/12/2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/08/derek-scrimger-forensics-14122004.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/08/derek-scrimger-forensics-14122004.html)
Ashley Coutts 24/11/2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/08/ashley-coutts-24112004.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/08/ashley-coutts-24112004.html)
Gillian Barnes 23/12/2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/07/gillian-barnes-23122004.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/07/gillian-barnes-23122004.html)
Rachel Quinn 29/11/2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/07/rachel-quinn-29112004.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/07/rachel-quinn-29112004.html)
David Stirling 22/11/04
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/07/david-stirling-221104.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/07/david-stirling-221104.html)
Anthony Busuttil 06/01/2005 Day One
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/07/professor-anthony-busuttil-06012004-day.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/07/professor-anthony-busuttil-06012004-day.html)
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More transcripts have been posted this month
Crown's closing speech 18th January 2005
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/12/crowns-closing-speech-18th-january-2005.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/12/crowns-closing-speech-18th-january-2005.html)
The Judge's charge 20th and 21st January 2005
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/12/the-judges-charge-20th-and-21st-january.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2024/12/the-judges-charge-20th-and-21st-january.html)
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More transcripts posted in January
Detective Inspector Martin 30/12/2004 (Day one of three)
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/01/detective-inspector-martin-30122004-day.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/01/detective-inspector-martin-30122004-day.html)
Detective Inspector Martin 31/12/04 (Day two of three)
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/01/detective-inspector-martin-311204-day.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/01/detective-inspector-martin-311204-day.html)
Detective Inspector Martin 5/01/05 (Day three of three)
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/01/detective-inspector-martin-50105-day.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/01/detective-inspector-martin-50105-day.html)
Defence closing speech 19/01/05
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/01/the-defence-closing-speech-190105.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/01/the-defence-closing-speech-190105.html)
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More trial transcripts posted in the last 6 months.
Mr Frankland (Luke's neighbour) 6/12/04
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/03/mr-frankland-61204.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/03/mr-frankland-61204.html)
Mr Frankland (Luke's neighbour) 6/12/04 2nd part
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/03/mrs-frankland-041204.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/03/mrs-frankland-041204.html)
Mr Ramage (Luke's neighbour) 6/12/04
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025_03_08_archive.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025_03_08_archive.html)
Dr Kranti Hiremath 17/01/2005
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/04/dr-kranti-hiremath-17012005.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/04/dr-kranti-hiremath-17012005.html)
James Aitken (Senior fingerprint officer) 17/01/2005
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/04/mr-aitken-senior-fingerprint-officer.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/04/mr-aitken-senior-fingerprint-officer.html)
DC Steven Livingston 17/12/2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/04/dc-steven-livingston-17122004.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/04/dc-steven-livingston-17122004.html)
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More trial transcripts posted in the last 6 months.
Mr Frankland (Luke's neighbour) 6/12/04
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/03/mr-frankland-61204.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/03/mr-frankland-61204.html)
Mr Frankland (Luke's neighbour) 6/12/04 2nd part
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/03/mrs-frankland-041204.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/03/mrs-frankland-041204.html)
Mr Ramage (Luke's neighbour) 6/12/04
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025_03_08_archive.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025_03_08_archive.html)
Dr Kranti Hiremath 17/01/2005
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/04/dr-kranti-hiremath-17012005.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/04/dr-kranti-hiremath-17012005.html)
James Aitken (Senior fingerprint officer) 17/01/2005
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/04/mr-aitken-senior-fingerprint-officer.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/04/mr-aitken-senior-fingerprint-officer.html)
DC Steven Livingston 17/12/2004
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/04/dc-steven-livingston-17122004.html (https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2025/04/dc-steven-livingston-17122004.html)
In retrospect it was damaging to the defence that the tattoo incident was put before the jury: https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12409191.jodi-trial-told-of-false-claim-by-mother-in-tattoo-shop-witness-identifies-mitchell-as-customer/