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OTHER HIGH PROFILE CASES => Other cases => Topic started by: Roch on January 27, 2023, 08:19:PM
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https://empowerinnocent.wixsite.com/ccrcwatch/post/ccrc-chairman-helen-pitcher-blusters-and-embellishes-over-the-case-of-andy-malkinson
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https://empowerinnocent.wixsite.com/ccrcwatch/post/ccrc-chairman-helen-pitcher-blusters-and-embellishes-over-the-case-of-andy-malkinson
Love Bill's work. His insider knowledge of how police operate gives an authentic interesting insight.
It is worrying that the charity "APPEAL" who did the investigating and got the necessary forensic tests are seemingly having to do the work of not just the CCRC but also the police.
It is as if the bar is set not at creating significant doubt in the safety of the conviction, but also proving who did commit the crime in order to get an appeal.
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I hope it is overturned at the COA, Roch. The below, from Bill's piece, emphasises the cost to Andrew Malkinson. It would be unconscionable to prolong this tragic injustice.
Andrew Malkinson said:
“I am innocent. Finally, I have the chance to prove it thanks to the perseverance of my legal team at APPEAL. I only have one life and so far 20 years of it has been stolen from me. Yesterday I turned 57 years old. How much longer will it take?” Mr Malkinson also said: “My life is on hold until I can overturn the conviction. I can’t get a decent job. I’m having to scrape by on the scraps of minimum wage jobs that nobody really wants.”
According to his lawyer, Malkinson’s freedom will be limited while he remains convicted. “Andy is finally breathing free air. But any minute now we’re going to go back to the hostel, where he has to check in every day at a particular time for the foreseeable future. We’re going to separate him from his mother again. He’s going to go into the hostel, and she’s going to go home and spend Christmas without him. He’s obviously on the sex offenders’ register, and his daily life is going to be very closely monitored by the probation service.”
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Just spotted this Gringo..
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2023/jan/27/andrew-malkinson-dna-hopes-to-prove-innocence
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Just spotted this Gringo..
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2023/jan/27/andrew-malkinson-dna-hopes-to-prove-innocence
It does look like he will have the stain of being a sex offender finally lifted. His predicament outlined below from the Guardian article you linked is unimaginable. Heads - the system wins, tails - you lose;
If he had played the game and enrolled on a sex offender treatment course, he could have been released after less than seven years. Instead, he maintained his innocence, which kept him behind bars for another decade.
The courses centred on discussing the crime committed, which he felt unable to do. “I had no choice. You don’t want to lie and pretend you’ve done something like that, it’s too grave. It’d stick in your throat as soon as you started saying it. It’s a horrible position to be in.”
I was unaware of this case. The dis-functionality of the CCRC, amply demonstrated in this case despite its probable overturning, leaves one wondering how many more Andrew Malkinson's there are. From what we know of Helen Pitcher-it is difficult to imagine this changing anytime soon.
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Just spotted this Gringo..
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2023/jan/27/andrew-malkinson-dna-hopes-to-prove-innocence
It appears that we have a ready made replacement for the dis-functional CCRC.
The charity "APPEAL" should be given the funding currently being spunked by non-investigating investigators at the CCRC. They (APPEAL) are obviously better investigators.
Those currently running the CCRC looks a bit like the Criminal Justice system "marking their own homework". No wonder they always get top marks.
I'd make Bill the new head :)
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It appears that we have a ready made replacement for the dis-functional CCRC.
The charity "APPEAL" should be given the funding currently being spunked by non-investigating investigators at the CCRC. They (APPEAL) are obviously better investigators.
Those currently running the CCRC looks a bit like the Criminal Justice system "marking their own homework". No wonder they always get top marks.
I'd make Bill the new head :)
Well put Gringo.
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More on the Malkinson case; and the CCRC; FSS archive:
https://empowerinnocent.wixsite.com/ccrcwatch/post/is-there-ccrc-deception-involved-in-referring-the-case-of-andrew-malkinson
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It's all very sketchy. What time did Malkinson finish the nightshift, how did he travel back to the accommodation and where was the victim located at this time? How did he come to be on the identity parade and what is the significance of the condom lubricant? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLZOlCAuoTs
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He's a free man. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/man-who-spent-17-years-in-prison-for-rape-he-did-not-commit-has-conviction-overturned/ar-AA1enYgu?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=dd0fa82ebde544c698d0a57d54b4cf45&ei=12
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The article that Roch posted at the start of the thread re-linked below
https://empowerinnocent.wixsite.com/ccrcwatch/post/ccrc-chairman-helen-pitcher-blusters-and-embellishes-over-the-case-of-andy-malkinson
is the most informative and instructive commentary that you will find. The thing that needs discussing the most but won't be touched in the media is the dis-functionality of the CCRC. I have read a couple of MSM pieces on the overturning and the CCRC disfunctionality isn't even touched upon in passing.
The media coverage could be covered in much the same way as Bill's article covers the CCRC.
In a nutshell, Bill describes how the uselessness of the CCRC is a feature, not a bug. They are simply gatekeepers to protect the judiciary rather than serious seekers of injustice and miscarriages.
In much the same way, the uselessness of the media is a feature, not a bug. The media act as gatekeepers to the CCRC and other official bodies rather than serious speakers of truth to power.
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It appears that we have a ready made replacement for the dis-functional CCRC.
The charity "APPEAL" should be given the funding currently being spunked by non-investigating investigators at the CCRC. They (APPEAL) are obviously better investigators.
Those currently running the CCRC looks a bit like the Criminal Justice system "marking their own homework". No wonder they always get top marks.
I'd make Bill the new head :)
My tongue was half in my cheek when I said this. It is entirely removed now. Bill Robertson is exactly the sort of person we need in prominent positions in bodies such as the CCRC along with the investigators of the charity, "Appeal".
I'm glad that Roch brought this case to our attention on this forum. It is vindication and reward for "Appeal". It is a shame that the media coverage doesn't focus more attention on that aspect. There are more Andy Malkinson's probably than we would like to admit. Those that should expose these things are gatekeepers and charities such as Appeal would get huge support and resources if their role, and that of the CCRC, were discussed thoroughly and openly.
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Andrew Malkinson live on LBC. https://internetradiouk.com/#lbc
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New Malkinson article by BR on CCRC Watch:
https://empowerinnocent.wixsite.com/ccrcwatch/post/andrew-malkinson-scandal-ccrc-untruths-untruths-and-more-untruths
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New Malkinson article by BR on CCRC Watch:
https://empowerinnocent.wixsite.com/ccrcwatch/post/andrew-malkinson-scandal-ccrc-untruths-untruths-and-more-untruths
I was looking at a case from the 1980s in Niles, Michigan and just because another man's DNA is on the victim does not necessarily make the convicted man innocent. If the witnesses who claimed to recognize Malkinson had dubious pasts they could still be telling the truth in this case. The jury can only deliberate on the evidence put before them.
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I was looking at a case from the 1980s in Niles, Michigan and just because another man's DNA is on the victim does not necessarily make the convicted man innocent. If the witnesses who claimed to recognize Malkinson had dubious pasts they could still be telling the truth in this case. The jury can only deliberate on the evidence put before them.
So you think Malkinson did it?
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So you think Malkinson did it?
I don't know. The jury was presented with the victim and two other witnesses identifying the defendant. I'm still not clear how police tracked him to Grimsby. His alibi fell through.
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Shouldn't the chairmanship of the CCRC be a full-time role? https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/legal-boss-under-fire-for-andrew-malkinson-scandal-has-eight-other-jobs/ar-AA1fsNWL?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3c38612b9138469d8b952a695f876b25&ei=22
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Did anyone see the Malkinson case documentary? It was well made.
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Did anyone see the Malkinson case documentary? It was well made.
There's a clip here: https://youtu.be/WV4gVnWOqmk
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There is many more malkinsons in the system. He's not in a club of one is my estimate.
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There is many more malkinsons in the system. He's not in a club of one is my estimate.
Both Labour and Conservative are committed to providing 20,000 more prison places in the next few years. What a shocking indictment of today's society that individuals are resorting to crime, instead of offering a service to others and earning a wage legally thereby.
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Both Labour and Conservative are committed to providing 20,000 more prison places in the next few years. What a shocking indictment of today's society that individuals are resorting to crime, instead of offering a service to others and earning a wage legally thereby.
Big money to be made in the private prison sector
Fair play to them
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Haven't watched the documentary yet. Is it any good?
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Haven't watched the documentary yet. Is it any good?
Yes it was good. It was quite depressing but I am glad I watched it.
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New Justice Secretary seeking removal of CCRC boss.
https://www.theguardian.com/law/article/2024/jul/18/catalogue-of-failures-watchdog-missed-chances-to-help-andrew-malkinson-report-finds
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New Justice Secretary seeking removal of CCRC boss.
https://www.theguardian.com/law/article/2024/jul/18/catalogue-of-failures-watchdog-missed-chances-to-help-andrew-malkinson-report-finds
The CCRC lovers on here won't like this.
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The CCRC lovers on here won't like this.
I find this part extremely relevant to JB's case.
The review also questioned if there was a “cultural reluctance to ask for police files”, given that in all three of Malkinson’s applications the original police file was not examined. Had it been, the CCRC could have seen the multiple disclosure failures uncovered by Malkinson’s lawyers at Appeal.
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I find this part extremely relevant to JB's case.
The review also questioned if there was a “cultural reluctance to ask for police files”, given that in all three of Malkinson’s applications the original police file was not examined. Had it been, the CCRC could have seen the multiple disclosure failures uncovered by Malkinson’s lawyers at Appeal.
Pitcher's boss should go also. Karen Kneller.
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Pitcher's boss should go also.
This report puts extreme pressure on the CCRC and their handling of JB's latest submission
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This report puts extreme pressure on the CCRC and their handling of JB's latest submission
If Malkinson publicly throws his weight behind JB then it might add some pressure. So far the only thing I've seen is that Malkinson's supporters are supportive towards JB's campaign
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This report puts extreme pressure on the CCRC and their handling of JB's latest submission
This article provides even more details of the CCRC's failures.
https://www.theguardian.com/law/article/2024/jul/18/how-did-the-ccrc-handle-andrew-malkinson-three-appeal-applications
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Very strong words from the new Justice Secretary. I'm beginning to appreciate Labour's victory.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2q0gdd9v04o?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2ZUJfoBqVqTeoFG19oTQlNR0gIV7D1SV9r-te1wrQeTDd6vLkm-yS8A8g_aem_OneGqzT1FhPIGHEFka7Wlw
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This article provides even more details of the CCRC's failures.
https://www.theguardian.com/law/article/2024/jul/18/how-did-the-ccrc-handle-andrew-malkinson-three-appeal-applications
Here's a suitable snippet
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The report also details a reluctance to go back to the original police file, instead accepting the prosecution file presented in court. Henley said: “From what I have seen in this case there seems more of a reluctance to obtain the police file than the files from [the prosecution and other bodies]. The police file will often contain the most important material, particularly if there have been disclosure failings.”
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Very strong words from the new Justice Secretary. I'm beginning to appreciate Labour's victory.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2q0gdd9v04o?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2ZUJfoBqVqTeoFG19oTQlNR0gIV7D1SV9r-te1wrQeTDd6vLkm-yS8A8g_aem_OneGqzT1FhPIGHEFka7Wlw
Following the Post Office scandal they are also planning a new bill requiring a 'Duty of Candour' rule for all public employees. They will be legally required to tell the truth.
The proposed Public Authority (Accountability) Bill ("the Bill") will enable victims to rely upon a statutory duty of candour and frankness on the part of public authorities and it could create an offence if the duty is breached.
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Following the Post Office scandal they are also planning a new bill requiring a 'Duty of Candour' rule for all public employees. They will be legally required to tell the truth.
The proposed Public Authority (Accountability) Bill ("the Bill") will enable victims to rely upon a statutory duty of candour and frankness on the part of public authorities and it could create an offence if the duty is breached.
I wonder what BR's view is on these developments.
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Here's a suitable snippet
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The report also details a reluctance to go back to the original police file, instead accepting the prosecution file presented in court. Henley said: “From what I have seen in this case there seems more of a reluctance to obtain the police file than the files from [the prosecution and other bodies]. The police file will often contain the most important material, particularly if there have been disclosure failings.”
WELL WELL WELL ... Who'd have thought that eh?
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I wonder what BR's view is on these developments.
BR's work on CCRC Watch is most 'apposite' (as the former ember Campion snr once said to me).
VINDICATED is what BR should be feeling.
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If Malkinson publicly throws his weight behind JB then it might add some pressure. So far the only thing I've seen is that Malkinson's supporters are supportive towards JB's campaign
Surely every case has to be considered individually. They are two distinct cases.
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Article about Mr Malkinson's experiences since being released.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13501673/Andrew-Malkinson-wrongly-jailed-rape-homeless.html
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Article about Mr Malkinson's experiences since being released.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13501673/Andrew-Malkinson-wrongly-jailed-rape-homeless.html
He will receive compensation, surely?
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Independent review by Chris Henley KC of the CCRC’s handling of the Andrew Malkinson case
https://cloud-platform-e218f50a4812967ba1215eaecede923f.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/sites/5/2024/07/Integrated-Report-Response-Redacted-Copy.pdf (https://cloud-platform-e218f50a4812967ba1215eaecede923f.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/sites/5/2024/07/Integrated-Report-Response-Redacted-Copy.pdf)
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Wonder if this will come to anything?
https://news.sky.com/story/officers-involved-in-wrongful-rape-conviction-of-andrew-malkinson-under-investigation-13227760
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Wonder if this will come to anything?
https://news.sky.com/story/officers-involved-in-wrongful-rape-conviction-of-andrew-malkinson-under-investigation-13227760
It is also in the guardian.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/oct/04/andrew-malkinson-iopc-investigates-retired-police-officers-wrongful-conviction
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https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/witness-who-identified-andrew-malkinson-33560197
A witness who identified Andrew Malkinson as the alleged assailant responsible for raping a woman stands ‘squarely’ behind her original statement, a trial has heard.
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lol
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9d4582p5jqo (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9d4582p5jqo)
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lol
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9d4582p5jqo (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9d4582p5jqo)
yes it doesn't look promising for him.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c145vjr3j8ro
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Looks like Stephanie Hall has just deleted most (if not all) her blog posts attacking Andy Malkinson and defending Paul Quinn. :-\