Author Topic: Helen Pitcher and the Andy Malkinson case  (Read 5139 times)

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Offline Roch

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Re: Helen Pitcher and the Andy Malkinson case
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2023, 10:08:PM »
I was looking at a case from the 1980s in Niles, Michigan and just because another man's DNA is on the victim does not necessarily make the convicted man innocent. If the witnesses who claimed to recognize Malkinson had dubious pasts they could still be telling the truth in this case. The jury can only deliberate on the evidence put before them.

So you think Malkinson did it?

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Re: Helen Pitcher and the Andy Malkinson case
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2023, 07:56:AM »
So you think Malkinson did it?
I don't know. The jury was presented with the victim and two other witnesses identifying the defendant. I'm still not clear how police tracked him to Grimsby. His alibi fell through.


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Re: Helen Pitcher and the Andy Malkinson case
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2024, 12:59:PM »
Did anyone see the Malkinson case documentary? It was well made.

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Re: Helen Pitcher and the Andy Malkinson case
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2024, 03:25:PM »
Did anyone see the Malkinson case documentary? It was well made.
There's a clip here: https://youtu.be/WV4gVnWOqmk

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Re: Helen Pitcher and the Andy Malkinson case
« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2024, 03:51:PM »
There is many more malkinsons in the system. He's not in a club of one is my estimate.
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Re: Helen Pitcher and the Andy Malkinson case
« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2024, 04:26:PM »
There is many more malkinsons in the system. He's not in a club of one is my estimate.
Both Labour and Conservative are committed to providing 20,000 more prison places in the next few years. What a shocking indictment of today's society that individuals are resorting to crime, instead of offering a service to others and earning a wage legally thereby.
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Re: Helen Pitcher and the Andy Malkinson case
« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2024, 05:32:PM »
Both Labour and Conservative are committed to providing 20,000 more prison places in the next few years. What a shocking indictment of today's society that individuals are resorting to crime, instead of offering a service to others and earning a wage legally thereby.

Big money to be made in the private prison sector

Fair play to them
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Re: Helen Pitcher and the Andy Malkinson case
« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2024, 07:56:PM »
Haven't watched the documentary yet. Is it any good?

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Re: Helen Pitcher and the Andy Malkinson case
« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2024, 08:00:PM »
Haven't watched the documentary yet. Is it any good?

Yes it was good.  It was quite depressing but I am glad I watched it. 

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Re: Helen Pitcher and the Andy Malkinson case
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2024, 02:37:PM »
The CCRC lovers on here won't like this.

I find this part extremely relevant to JB's case.

The review also questioned if there was a “cultural reluctance to ask for police files”, given that in all three of Malkinson’s applications the original police file was not examined. Had it been, the CCRC could have seen the multiple disclosure failures uncovered by Malkinson’s lawyers at Appeal.

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Re: Helen Pitcher and the Andy Malkinson case
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2024, 02:38:PM »
I find this part extremely relevant to JB's case.

The review also questioned if there was a “cultural reluctance to ask for police files”, given that in all three of Malkinson’s applications the original police file was not examined. Had it been, the CCRC could have seen the multiple disclosure failures uncovered by Malkinson’s lawyers at Appeal.

Pitcher's boss should go also.  Karen Kneller.
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Re: Helen Pitcher and the Andy Malkinson case
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2024, 02:40:PM »
Pitcher's boss should go also.

This report puts extreme pressure on the CCRC and their handling of JB's latest submission