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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: JackieD on February 04, 2020, 10:37:PM
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We really need this answered to see if CAL has any integrity
As CAL is quite happy to photograph her letters I hope photos of Jeremy’s twisted letters are on the way
(If I get time at the weekend I might lay my letters out so they look like CALS and there is definitely not 100s there
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Screenshots
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Caroline photos of the twisted letters ????????
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Please be aware that publishing a private letter is technically breach of copyright. The author of the letter maintains copyright.
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Please be aware that publishing a private letter is technically breach of copyright. The author of the letter maintains copyright.
Thank you TBM Carole Ann Lee won’t care what trouble she gets in if it means she sells a few more books. She has proved she will go to any lengths to promote her book. For example in an interview that was published in January she said she had spoken to Jeremy. In another article there was a bombshell headline stating Carol Ann Lee had received twisted letters from Jeremy (she has failed to address this leaving readers/viewers to believe this is true.
It’s absolutely disgraceful. The women has no integrity. If I post photos of Jeremy to me they are all positive and most do not contain confidential material but I could definitely cover the floor of my whole property and I do not have hundreds of letters from JB.
There are NO twisted letters and she has NEVER spoken to JB as she claims
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Thank you TBM Carole Ann Lee won’t care what trouble she gets in if it means she sells a few more books. She has proved she will go to any lengths to promote her book. For example in an interview that was published in January she said she had spoken to Jeremy. In another article there was a bombshell headline stating Carol Ann Lee had received twisted letters from Jeremy (she has failed to address this leaving readers/viewers to believe this is true.
It’s absolutely disgraceful. The women has no integrity. If I post photos of Jeremy to me they are all positive and most do not contain confidential material but I could definitely cover the floor of my whole property and I do not have hundreds of letters from JB.
There are NO twisted letters and she has NEVER spoken to JB as she claims
Photos of Jeremy to you? :-X
Turning the heat up are we ladies? I wonder how many photos of Jeremy CAL got from him? ;D
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Photos of Jeremy to you? :-X
Turning the heat up are we ladies? I wonder how many photos of Jeremy CAL got from him? ;D
I think she means photos of his letters.
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I think she means photos of his letters.
Yes I know that! I just couldn't help it.
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It's so mean because Jeremy can't defend himself with what's said/written where he is so folk can say whatever they want to and get away with it. I can only hope that he too can have his day !!
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Photos of Jeremy to you? :-X
Turning the heat up are we ladies? I wonder how many photos of Jeremy CAL got from him? ;D
Sorry David I meant photocopy’s Of JB letters
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Thank you TBM Carole Ann Lee won’t care what trouble she gets in if it means she sells a few more books. She has proved she will go to any lengths to promote her book. For example in an interview that was published in January she said she had spoken to Jeremy. In another article there was a bombshell headline stating Carol Ann Lee had received twisted letters from Jeremy (she has failed to address this leaving readers/viewers to believe this is true.
It’s absolutely disgraceful. The women has no integrity. If I post photos of Jeremy to me they are all positive and most do not contain confidential material but I could definitely cover the floor of my whole property and I do not have hundreds of letters from JB.
There are NO twisted letters and she has NEVER spoken to JB as she claims
Go on then! We'll wait for you proof!
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It's so mean because Jeremy can't defend himself with what's said/written where he is so folk can say whatever they want to and get away with it. I can only hope that he too can have his day !!
CAL was publicly accused by the CT of having only 5 or 6 letters. Is it OK for them to post any old bollocks and get away with it? She has more than proven they were talking shite and had EVERY right to do so. Just waiting for Jackie to prove her claim now then we can all move on!
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CAL was publicly accused by the CT of having only 5 or 6 letters. Is it OK for them to post any old bollocks and get away with it? She has more than proven they were talking shite and had EVERY right to do so. Just waiting for Jackie to prove her claim now then we can all move on!
There seems to be a game of semantics being played out here. So WHAT if CAL said she'd received hundreds of letters"? Who, but Jeremy's supporters on this forum, but trying so hard to get their message 'out there' and heard, actually CARE about the number, which, incidentally, is only a throwaway line for "numerous" and certainly more, it seems, that supporters here. It will be amusing to see how much of her 'rival's' lavatory can be covered with his letters.
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There seems to be a game of semantics being played out here. So WHAT if CAL said she'd received hundreds of letters"? Who, but Jeremy's supporters on this forum, but trying so hard to get their message 'out there' and heard, actually CARE about the number, which, incidentally, is only a throwaway line for "numerous" and certainly more, it seems, that supporters here. It will be amusing to see how much of her 'rival's' lavatory can be covered with his letters.
An article claiming 'hundreds of twisted letters' is designed to portray some sick, deluded individual, frantically writing hundreds of 'twisted' letters from behind bars. Semantics doesn't come in to it. If it was a pub quiz bonus question 'how many case related letters did Jeremy Bamber write CAL from prison?'. The CT would probably win hands down. 5-6 letters is closer to 10 than 'hundreds'.
It's media manipulation, piggy-backing the drama.
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An article claiming 'hundreds of twisted letters' is designed to portray some sick, deluded individual, frantically writing hundreds of 'twisted' letters from behind bars. Semantics doesn't come in to it. If it was a pub quiz bonus question 'how many case related letters did Jeremy Bamber write CAL from prison?'. The CT would probably win hands down. 5-6 letters is closer to 10 than 'hundreds'.
It's media manipulation, piggy-backing the drama.
Except there are a LOT more than 10 - so the CT and poster here are doing the manipulating.
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Except there are a LOT more than 10 - so the CT and poster here are doing the manipulating.
And not for the first time!
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An article claiming 'hundreds of twisted letters' is designed to portray some sick, deluded individual, frantically writing hundreds of 'twisted' letters from behind bars. Semantics doesn't come in to it. If it was a pub quiz bonus question 'how many case related letters did Jeremy Bamber write CAL from prison?'. The CT would probably win hands down. 5-6 letters is closer to 10 than 'hundreds'.
It's media manipulation, piggy-backing the drama.
'Twisted' I rather like The Cambridge English Dictionary description. "Bent so the original shape is changed or destroyed". That says more than enough, don't you think? I get the impression that it's you supporters who are pushing the alternative version. I can't help wondering why that might be. I can only believe it's about your determination to attempt to undermine CAL's work. That you still insist that she received very few -10- letters, means that you clearly don't believe the evidence of the pictures, OR have chosen not to look. She did say say they comprised just SOME of them -I managed to count 37? envelopes- but no doubt you'll have another explanation?
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'Twisted' I rather like The Cambridge English Dictionary description. "Bent so the original shape is changed or destroyed". That says more than enough, don't you think? I get the impression that it's you supporters who are pushing the alternative version. I can't help wondering why that might be. I can only believe it's about your determination to attempt to undermine CAL's work. That you still insist that she received very few -10- letters, means that you clearly don't believe the evidence of the pictures, OR have chosen not to look. She did say say they comprised just SOME of them -I managed to count 37? envelopes- but no doubt you'll have another explanation?
As far as I can see, there is no need to count, you can see there is a huge amount - clearly far more than the CT tried to claim. Anyone standing up for that position in my view is totally dishonest and they know it.
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Serves her right for asking for pics of crime scenes. Her version of " twisted " I suspect.
What did she expect, holiday pics and jolly conversation ?
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Serves her right for asking for pics of crime scenes. Her version of " twisted " I suspect.
What did she expect, holiday pics and jolly conversation ?
Do you think she asked Bamner for pictures? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Do you think she asked Bamner for pictures? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
There's rarely any smoke without fire. Those who bawl the loudest are usually the instigators too.
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'Twisted' I rather like The Cambridge English Dictionary description. "Bent so the original shape is changed or destroyed". She did say say they comprised just SOME of them -I managed to count 37? envelopes- but no doubt you'll have another explanation?
She better find the rest then. As 5-6 is still closer to 37 than 'hundreds'.
Out of interest, has she always wrote to him using the same surname?
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There's rarely any smoke without fire. Those who bawl the loudest are usually the instigators too.
Okay. If disrespecting her one way fails, just try another. How many MORE people have to take the blame for Jeremy? The number is growing exponentially. Uncle Tom Cobbly et al has become the 5000 riding into the Valley of Death. With what you're attempting to do to their reputations, the irony isn't lost.
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Okay. If disrespecting her one way fails, just try another. How many MORE people have to take the blame for Jeremy? The number is growing exponentially. Uncle Tom Cobbly et al has become the 5000 riding into the Valley of Death. With what you're attempting to do to their reputations, the irony isn't lost.
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Okay. If disrespecting her one way fails, just try another. How many MORE people have to take the blame for Jeremy? The number is growing exponentially. Uncle Tom Cobbly et al has become the 5000 riding into the Valley of Death. With what you're attempting to do to their reputations, the irony isn't lost.
What a load of old cobblers.
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She better find the rest then. As 5-6 is still closer to 37 than 'hundreds'.
Out of interest, has she always wrote to him using the same surname?
Why do you set yourself up as being important enough for her to find it necessary to debase herself by fulfilling any of your demands, or do you prefer 'requests?' As for the name she may have used -have you any idea how offensive and suggestive of hounding that question sounds?- I feel sure that you and interested members of The Stalkers' Club will have no difficulty in coming up with something. I'm certain you won't let lies stand in the way of you coming up with a good story.
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An article claiming 'hundreds of twisted letters' is designed to portray some sick, deluded individual, frantically writing hundreds of 'twisted' letters from behind bars. Semantics doesn't come in to it. If it was a pub quiz bonus question 'how many case related letters did Jeremy Bamber write CAL from prison?'. The CT would probably win hands down. 5-6 letters is closer to 10 than 'hundreds'.
It's media manipulation, piggy-backing the drama.
That is spot on Roch
I am sick to death of what is going on.
There is no retraction from Carol Ann Lee regarding fake news because she is happy to jump on the gravy train which is JB
Caroline refuses to address the issue even though I have given her details of the interview
Let’s hope we never see the likes of her again
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Why do you set yourself up as being important enough for her to find it necessary to debase herself by fulfilling any of your demands, or do you prefer 'requests?' As for the name she may have used -have you any idea how offensive and suggestive of hounding that question sounds?- I feel sure that you and interested members of The Stalkers' Club will have no difficulty in coming up with something. I'm certain you won't let lies stand in the way of you coming up with a good story.
I was surmising as to whether he may have sent letters to a Carol Ann Smith or Roberts or Jones or whatever, ie previously.
When you get closer to hundreds than 37 or 10 (whichever is the correct current estimate) please let me know. Then all we have to do is find out if they were 'twisted' or just case related.
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should we ask her for copys.
personaly i dont see that really matters weather she has or not i doubt if the letters are anythin w have never seen before.
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I was surmising as to whether he may have sent letters to a Carol Ann Smith or Roberts or Jones or whatever, ie previously.
When you get closer to hundreds than 37 or 10 (whichever is the correct current estimate) please let me know. Then all we have to do is find out if they were 'twisted' or just case related.
Whatever? Exactly WHAT has it to do with you. I don't need to "get closer to..................", actually, other than having some warped desire to destroy her reputation, neither, I believe, do you. Oh, and what's the betting that whatEVER those letters reveal, you'd feel obligated to disagree with, and then set about disproving?
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Just another fabricated slight against JB, probably because he wouldn't open up as much as she'd wished him to-----then the spite comes out, much like JM did when she didn't get her own way. Some women are dangerous and will go to great lengths !!
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Whatever? Exactly WHAT has it to do with you. I don't need to "get closer to..................", actually, other than having some warped desire to destroy her reputation, neither, I believe, do you. Oh, and what's the betting that whatEVER those letters reveal, you'd feel obligated to disagree with, and then set about disproving?
My point was, he may have wrote 5-6 or 10 letters to Carol Ann Lee the author and a batch of previous letters to Carol Ann 'somebody else' the pre-author.
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Jesus Roch you are being described as warped now just because you would like to know the truth about a newspaper article
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She better find the rest then. As 5-6 is still closer to 37 than 'hundreds'.
Out of interest, has she always wrote to him using the same surname?
I can't believe you are joining in with this Roch. I expect nothing less from the others but not you. There is nothing much else that she could have done to show she was telling the truth - it just goes to show that some people are willing to believe anything in order to support Bamber.
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Why do you set yourself up as being important enough for her to find it necessary to debase herself by fulfilling any of your demands, or do you prefer 'requests?' As for the name she may have used -have you any idea how offensive and suggestive of hounding that question sounds?- I feel sure that you and interested members of The Stalkers' Club will have no difficulty in coming up with something. I'm certain you won't let lies stand in the way of you coming up with a good story.
She already has - end of!
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That is spot on Roch
I am sick to death of what is going on.
There is no retraction from Carol Ann Lee regarding fake news because she is happy to jump on the gravy train which is JB
Caroline refuses to address the issue even though I have given her details of the interview
Let’s hope we never see the likes of her again
Post the ACTUAL quote where she states she spoke to Bamber on the phone! I have hasked you several times now and you have been unable to carry out a simple task. Post it or shut your hole!
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Just another fabricated slight against JB, probably because he wouldn't open up as much as she'd wished him to-----then the spite comes out, much like JM did when she didn't get her own way. Some women are dangerous and will go to great lengths !!
The king was in the altogether ::)
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My point was, he may have wrote 5-6 or 10 letters to Carol Ann Lee the author and a batch of previous letters to Carol Ann 'somebody else' the pre-author.
So? What are you suggesting? I know what you're disputing -if I thought it was any of your business, I'd suggest that you write to her and ask, bearing in mind she's under no obligation to respond, of course- but I'm inclined to think you're sticking fingers in ears and making 'la la la' sounds.
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I was surmising as to whether he may have sent letters to a Carol Ann Smith or Roberts or Jones or whatever, ie previously.
When you get closer to hundreds than 37 or 10 (whichever is the correct current estimate) please let me know. Then all we have to do is find out if they were 'twisted' or just case related.
Why would you be surmising that? That doesn't even make any sense! Although I suppose it's a but like 'something happened at WHF to make the police frame everyone - although we have no idea what that is'. If CAL took pictures of every single letter, you would all STILL have some mad excuse for how the CT were right. I sometimes think this place operates in a parallel universe where common sense just doesn't exist.
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Post the ACTUAL quote where she states she spoke to Bamber on the phone! I have hasked you several times now and you have been unable to carry out a simple task. Post it or shut your hole!
It was actually in a paper I read yesterday Caroline----saying that CAL had spoken on the phone to Jeremy.
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It was actually in a paper I read yesterday Caroline----saying that CAL had spoken on the phone to Jeremy.
Which paper? But I want the quote from Jackie!
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CAL gave all her letters to Freddie Fox to read to get a general idea of his part in the drama. Would she have also included the " twisted " ones too ?
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CAL gave all her letters to Freddie Fox to read to get a general idea of his part in the drama. Would she have also included the " twisted " ones too ?
I believe the word 'twisted' was not a direct quote and used by The Sun to sensationalise. This is quite obvious by the direct quotes from CAL when she states that he was ALWAYS POLITE. Again common sense should make this obvious. I have never seen so much BS posted here to try and denigrate someone as I have in recent weeks over these letters and the drama. You should ALL be ashamed of yourselves! >:(
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Which paper? But I want the quote from Jackie!
So which paper?
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Which paper? But I want the quote from Jackie!
We have to bear in mind that there is likely to be huge difference between what 'the paper' CLAIMS, she said, and what she actually said. When I think about it, a bit like radio messages being sent back to HQ from a crime scene and getting reinterpreted.
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We have to bear in mind that there is likely to be huge difference between what 'the paper' CLAIMS, she said, and what she actually said. When I think about it, a bit like radio messages being sent back to HQ from a crime scene and getting reinterpreted.
Well, unless someone posts the quote or mentions which newspaper, we'll never know. The paper may have assumed or this lot might have gone off half cocked again.
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Which paper? But I want the quote from Jackie!
I'd thought it was the Metro but it was an unknown source to me and one who was obviously written by a guilter judging by other remarks---which were wrong.
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I'd thought it was the Metro but it was an unknown source to me and one who was obviously written by a guilter judging by other remarks---which were wrong.
OK - so no source then?
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OK - so no source then?
I'm looking for it now only because I remember seeing it.
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Even in the Metro CAL says that she contacted Jeremy with a view to writing her book ?
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I'm looking for it now only because I remember seeing it.
Look forward to reading it myself and for Jackie's reference too.
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Even in the Metro CAL says that she contacted Jeremy with a view to writing her book ?
She did, through his solicitor! Where in the sentence does it state she phoned? Also in that sentence, it's clear she made it OBVIOUS why she wanted to write!
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I believe the word 'twisted' was not a direct quote and used by The Sun to sensationalise. This is quite obvious by the direct quotes from CAL when she states that he was ALWAYS POLITE. Again common sense should make this obvious. I have never seen so much BS posted here to try and denigrate someone as I have in recent weeks over these letters and the drama. You should ALL be ashamed of yourselves! >:(
Hasn't a banquet been made from the usage of 'twisted'? Not for a moment do I think they run with The Cambridge Dictionary's description. It's far too 'clean'. It's dirt they've wanted, and dirt they've determined to find. As Jeremy is still where Jeremy is likely to remain, I assume their real focus was to bring CAL down and destroy her reputation. With so small a moral compass, it's likely they'd have felt proud had they achieved their aim.
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Hasn't a banquet been made from the usage of 'twisted'? Not for a moment do I think they run with The Cambridge Dictionary's description. It's far too 'clean'. It's dirt they've wanted, and dirt they've determined to find. As Jeremy is still where Jeremy is likely to remain, I assume their real focus was to bring CAL down and destroy her reputation. With so small a moral compass, it's likely they'd have felt proud had they achieved their aim.
Well if that was their intention, all they have really managed to do is make themselves look like over excited, obsessed idiots - who are clearly all short sighted!
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Look forward to reading it myself and for Jackie's reference too.
The Jeremy Bamber crime scene photo that one woman will never forget
She wrote regular letters
The Jeremy Bamber crime scene photo that one woman will never forget
She wrote regular letters to Bamber himself
BY HOPE WOOLSTON
14:14, 15 JAN 2020
UPDATED15:00, 20 JAN 2020
White House Farm at Tolleshunt d'Arcy Essex
Carol Ann Lee was 16 during the summer of 1985 when five members of the same family were shot dead in a farm in Essex
Little did this girl know that one day she would be exchanging regular letters with their killer, Jeremy Bamber, the man convicted of murdering his own family to get his hands on his inheritance.
Carol, an author and autobiographer, decided she wanted to find out more after seeing a documentary about the notorious White House Farm murders.
She started work on her book in 2012 and even wrote to Bamber himself, who is serving a whole-life sentence and to this day protests his innocence
From the photos she’ll never forget, to the 'charming' letters she received from Bamber, here are the shocking things she learnt while investigating White House Farm murders.
Carol and Bamber exchanged regular letters in her time working on the book.
She said: "He comes across as very charming, but manipulative.
"He is very much in control of the information he wants to discuss."
The author claimed Bamber would not reply to questions about certain subjects, particularly his adoptive sister Sheila's personal life, who was initially blamed for the case in a murder-suicide theory.
"What once was very frequent contact started to slow down," she said.
"He wanted to be able to tell his story of innocence, and convince the world that he did not kill his family."
Carol said that she always tried to keep an open mind on Bamber's guilt, but found his behaviour was hard to ignore.
She said: "He could be very personable, and would ask how I was, but he was very aware of his life.
"He offered to proof read my book, and point out any mistakes that I had made
"I told him that that wasn't going to work."
Carol claims to have seen photos that very few people have laid eyes on, and there is one she will never forget.
After seeing the tragic and horrific bloodbath that police were met with when they first discovered the bodies, she explained:
"One picture that I saw said to me that the person who did it was very good with a gun.
"This person was not at all shaky and knew how and where to shoot.
"This case got to me like nothing else has.
"I cannot get the pictures of the crime scene out of my head."
Carol has spoken with Bamber,
friends and the family of the victims and police officers who dealt with the case.
She explained: "You have to get so involved with the stories that you end up dreaming about them.
"I have so many dreams about White House Farm.”
In Carol’s personal opinion, she is 100 per cent sure that Bamber was the one to kill his family, and said she will be the "first to apologise" if he is ever acquitted.
She explained: "He will never stop appealing because he has nothing to lose.
"If he admits to his crimes, he might get parole but he will come out as a child killer.”
Carol's book, The Murders at White House Farm: Jeremy Bamber and the killing of his family.
The definitive investigation was first published in 2015.
She was approached by production company New Pictures who said they were going to be creating a TV drama about the crime.
She was asked to be a consultant for the production, and gave them a huge amount of her research to make the series.
Carol said: "It was very strange to see the actors as the characters.
"They worked so hard to make sure that they portrayed the true characters."
She also got to be an extra in a courtroom scene.
The fictional version of Bamber's trial in the TV drama was filmed at Chelmsford Court Court, in the very next room to where the actual trial happened.
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The Jeremy Bamber crime scene photo that one woman will never forget
She wrote regular letters
The Jeremy Bamber crime scene photo that one woman will never forget
She wrote regular letters to Bamber himself
BY HOPE WOOLSTON
14:14, 15 JAN 2020
UPDATED15:00, 20 JAN 2020
White House Farm at Tolleshunt d'Arcy Essex
Carol Ann Lee was 16 during the summer of 1985 when five members of the same family were shot dead in a farm in Essex
Little did this girl know that one day she would be exchanging regular letters with their killer, Jeremy Bamber, the man convicted of murdering his own family to get his hands on his inheritance.
Carol, an author and autobiographer, decided she wanted to find out more after seeing a documentary about the notorious White House Farm murders.
She started work on her book in 2012 and even wrote to Bamber himself, who is serving a whole-life sentence and to this day protests his innocence
From the photos she’ll never forget, to the 'charming' letters she received from Bamber, here are the shocking things she learnt while investigating White House Farm murders.
Carol and Bamber exchanged regular letters in her time working on the book.
She said: "He comes across as very charming, but manipulative.
"He is very much in control of the information he wants to discuss."
The author claimed Bamber would not reply to questions about certain subjects, particularly his adoptive sister Sheila's personal life, who was initially blamed for the case in a murder-suicide theory.
"What once was very frequent contact started to slow down," she said.
"He wanted to be able to tell his story of innocence, and convince the world that he did not kill his family."
Carol said that she always tried to keep an open mind on Bamber's guilt, but found his behaviour was hard to ignore.
She said: "He could be very personable, and would ask how I was, but he was very aware of his life.
"He offered to proof read my book, and point out any mistakes that I had made
"I told him that that wasn't going to work."
Carol claims to have seen photos that very few people have laid eyes on, and there is one she will never forget.
After seeing the tragic and horrific bloodbath that police were met with when they first discovered the bodies, she explained:
"One picture that I saw said to me that the person who did it was very good with a gun.
"This person was not at all shaky and knew how and where to shoot.
"This case got to me like nothing else has.
"I cannot get the pictures of the crime scene out of my head."
Carol has spoken with Bamber,
friends and the family of the victims and police officers who dealt with the case.
She explained: "You have to get so involved with the stories that you end up dreaming about them.
"I have so many dreams about White House Farm.”
In Carol’s personal opinion, she is 100 per cent sure that Bamber was the one to kill his family, and said she will be the "first to apologise" if he is ever acquitted.
She explained: "He will never stop appealing because he has nothing to lose.
"If he admits to his crimes, he might get parole but he will come out as a child killer.”
Carol's book, The Murders at White House Farm: Jeremy Bamber and the killing of his family.
The definitive investigation was first published in 2015.
She was approached by production company New Pictures who said they were going to be creating a TV drama about the crime.
She was asked to be a consultant for the production, and gave them a huge amount of her research to make the series.
Carol said: "It was very strange to see the actors as the characters.
"They worked so hard to make sure that they portrayed the true characters."
She also got to be an extra in a courtroom scene.
The fictional version of Bamber's trial in the TV drama was filmed at Chelmsford Court Court, in the very next room to where the actual trial happened.
Where does it mention phone?
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Caroline you really are a piece of work with your gang now by return I want a copy of where she has contacted
Hope to say it’s a lie
No wonder you two are friends
You are an absolute disgrace the way you speak to people and try to cover up for CALS lies
She is 100% sure JB is guilty when she hasn’t even spoken to him
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Where does it mention phone?
You need medical help???
She has spoken to him
Get it
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How else could anyone speak to someone other than the phone, if they couldn't meet ? ::)
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why dont why just ask her for copys problem solved.
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Caroline you really are a piece of work with your gang now by return I want a copy of where she has contacted
Hope to say it’s a lie
No wonder you two are friends
You are an absolute disgrace the way you speak to people and try to cover up for CALS lies
She is 100% sure JB is guilty when she hasn’t even spoken to him
You're the piece of work! And a complete disgrace the way you go after people. You encourage others to troll as you have recently with David and continue to go off half cocked as usual. Is this what you have been going on about for the past week or so? How ridiculous - it's not even a direct quote you stupid woman! She did SPEAK to Bamber like I am speaking to you now!
I haven't spoken to Bamber directly and I think he's 100% guilty ....... and?
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You need medical help???
She has spoken to him
Get it
Take your tablets Jackie and have a lie down!
I'm speaking to you now - GET IT?
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How else could anyone speak to someone other than the phone, if they couldn't meet ? ::)
It doesn't need a Phd to work that one out, Lookout, surely? We, collectively, 'speak' to each other on an almost daily basis. Not a word passes our lips. It's all done via a keyboard. Now I'm aware Jeremy can't use this method to write, but it's very possible that CAL may have used one in 'speaking' with him. If she didn't, I fee certain she still remembers how to apply pen to paper.
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How else could anyone speak to someone other than the phone, if they couldn't meet ? ::)
For starters, it's not even a direct quote and includes a list of people that she had communication with. The initiator of the article has used the word 'spoken' instead on communicate. Of course you lot can't work that out and go off half cocked as usual ;D ;D ;D ;D
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For starters, it's not even a direct quote and includes a list of people that she had communication with. The initiator of the article has used the word 'spoken' instead on communicate. Of course you lot can't work that out and go off half cocked as usual ;D ;D ;D ;D
For years myself Ngb, Roch, Simon McKay, MWT and numerous other people have been behind the fight to have all the documentation released still held under PPI
Public support will go along way to making this happen and I will not let some two bit not very good author mislead the public.
The majority of people on this forum are searching for the truth and are fed with this bullshit fake news and your supporting it.
Shame on you
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For years myself Ngb, Roch, Simon McKay, MWT and numerous other people have been behind the fight to have all the documentation released still held under PPI
Public support will go along way to making this happen and I will not let some two bit not very good author mislead the public.
The majority of people on this forum are searching for the truth and are fed with this bullshit fake news and your supporting it.
Shame on you
Oh shut up Jackie ;D ;D ;D ;D
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For starters, it's not even a direct quote and includes a list of people that she had communication with. The initiator of the article has used the word 'spoken' instead on communicate. Of course you lot can't work that out and go off half cocked as usual ;D ;D ;D ;D
No wonder you're laughing getting us mugs to do the donkey work while you're actually in touch with CAL yourself----so email her and ask her yourself. ::)
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No wonder you're laughing getting us mugs to do the donkey work while you're actually in touch with CAL yourself----so email her and ask her yourself. ::)
Who said I was in touch with her? You lot have assumed that - half cocked once again!
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Take your tablets Jackie and have a lie down!
I'm speaking to you now - GET IT?
What tablets and you go back to your pikey looking family
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What tablets and you go back to your pikey looking family
Eh? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
By the way, that's racist!
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Who said I was in touch with her? You lot have assumed that - half cocked once again!
You said so yourself earlier ::) You email everyone.
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What tablets and you go back to your pikey looking family
You need to get a life instead of spending all your time on here and Facebook and then you might not lose your temper so much
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You said so yourself earlier ::) You email everyone.
No, I said I emailed about PC Bird - I emailed the publisher as did gringo. Problem is, you lot don't read something properly.
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Eh? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
By the way, that's racist!
Never mind maybe you should dress up for your photos then
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Harrison, Lomax and no doubt CAL.you can't leave her out can you ?
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Never mind maybe you should dress up for your photos then
You haven't seen any pictures of me other then those I posted some time ago and you certainly haven't seen any of my family - looks like someone has been trying to stalk ;D ;D ;D ;D
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CAL is also being filmed as an extra in the court scenes. No end to her talent. ???
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CAL is also being filmed as an extra in the court scenes. No end to her talent. ???
Oh well, there's something else you can all have a pop at. Give you something to do!
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Oh well, there's something else you can all have a pop at. Give you something to do!
Why not, she'll probably be part of the jury.
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After leading Jeremy to believe that she was impartial. ::)
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You haven't seen any pictures of me other then those I posted some time ago and you certainly haven't seen any of my family - looks like someone has been trying to stalk ;D ;D ;D ;D
For a start you are the vile person who makes personal comments about me
Every one has been saved and now you are making comments about my healthy
If you want to litter the Internet with dodgy pictures of you and your ‘boyfriend ‘ and the ‘nice’ area you live in
Don’t be surprised when you get personal comments back
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After leading Jeremy to believe that she was impartial. ::)
To use your own phraseology. "Aww diddums".
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For a start you are the vile person who makes personal comments about me
Every one has been saved and now you are making comments about my healthy
If you want to litter the Internet with dodgy pictures of you and your ‘boyfriend ‘ and the ‘nice’ area you live in
Don’t be surprised when you get personal comments back
I answer your personal comments with personal comments! If you have saved them, maybe you can reflect. I also have some of yours saved - touche!
Errrr, there are no pictures of me and my other half littered anywhere but clearly you have been trying to track me down. Why would you do that? In order to see pictures of me, you would need to search them out - how creepy is THAT! I don't know why people go to these lengths but it is clearly odd and irrational behaviour! Give your head a shake!
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I answer your personal comments with personal comments! If you have saved them, maybe you can reflect. I also have some of yours saved - touche!
Errrr, there are no pictures of me and my other half littered anywhere but clearly you have been trying to track me down. Why would you do that?
You started it so I’m finishing it
Hallelujah Carol Ann Lee has been exposed for the fake she is
With the help of David and Gringo
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You started it so I’m finishing it
Hallelujah Carol Ann Lee has been exposed for the fake she is
With the help of David and Gringo
BOLLOCK! She hasn't been exposed as anything other than a respected author - and why are you trying to track me down on the internet?
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BOLLOCK! She hasn't been exposed as anything other than a respected author - and why are you trying to track me down on the internet?
Why on earth would I want to track you down on the Internet? Sorry you are not important enough
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Why on earth would I want to track you down on the Internet? Sorry you are not important enough
So how have you seen pictures of me?
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So how have you seen pictures of me?
I can’t remember 😳😳😳
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I can’t remember 😳😳😳
How creepy are you? Trying to track someone down - WOW! When you start doing things like that, it's time to take stock and leave the internet alone for a while. Weirdo!
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How creepy are you? Trying to track someone down - WOW! When you start doing things like that, it's time to take stock and leave the internet alone for a while. Weirdo!
Why would I track you down you nutter. Someone must have sent them to me
Probably the same person who sent you my passport
Now that is creepy
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Definition of Spoken
uttered or expressed by speaking; oral (opposed to written):
the spoken word.
speaking, or using speech, as specified (usually used in combination):
fair-spoken; plain-spoken; soft-spoken.
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Carol has spoken with Bamber,
friends and the family of the victims and police officers who dealt with the case.
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BOLLOCK! She hasn't been exposed as anything other than a respected author - and why are you trying to track me down on the internet?
History repeating itself
A newspaper isn't going to publish a story about a letter without seeing it. Paul Harrison is a respected author, he isn't going to risk damaging his reputation by lying.
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History repeating itself
Wondered when you would turn up.
You posted the pictures of the letters and deliberately left some of the pictures out! Tut. tut! Old tricks!
You can see the letters are from Bamber and there's a whole lot more than 10!
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Carol has spoken with Bamber,
friends and the family of the victims and police officers who dealt with the case.
Glad you have put that in large print so your mates can see it. They clearly can't see all those letters!
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Definition of Spoken
uttered or expressed by speaking; oral (opposed to written):
the spoken word.
speaking, or using speech, as specified (usually used in combination):
fair-spoken; plain-spoken; soft-spoken.
Not a direct quote though is it Jackie - Ask your mate gringo, he knows all about quotes!
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Why would I track you down you nutter. Someone must have sent them to me
Probably the same person who sent you my passport
Now that is creepy
I haven't seen your passport - hell, I'd have lost my lunch. No prizes for guessing who did send them to you. David?
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Glad you have put that in large print so your mates can see it. They clearly can't see all those letters!
I wonder what makes her think that. Is there anywhere in which CAL has talked about "When I phoned Jeremy.................." or "When I spoke with Jeremy on the phone...................". She's been 'speaking' to you for most of the afternoon. No phone.
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Wondered when you would turn up.
You posted the pictures of the letters and deliberately left some of the pictures out! Tut. tut! Old tricks!
You can see the letters are from Bamber and there's a whole lot more than 10!
I said yesterday there were "at least 10". Don't project your "old tricks" onto me.
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I said yesterday there were "at least 10". Don't project your "old tricks" onto me.
There are a LOT more than 10 and you were selective on which photographs you chose. No one sent them to you, you grabbed them, seems like you might have been quite busy on facebook recently! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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There are a LOT more than 10 and you were selective on which photographs you chose. No one sent them to you, you grabbed them, seems like you might have been quite busy on facebook recently! ;D ;D ;D ;D
If you say so Caroline. ::)
BTW about my comment last week about roughly where you live. I couldn't work out myself how I knew that, but its come back to me now. A few years back I showed you something mike had posted, I pointed out the address of the sender to you. And you said that person lived "down the road" from you. Remember? :)
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If you say so Caroline. ::)
BTW about my comment last week about roughly where you live. I couldn't work out myself how I knew that, but its come back to me now. A few years back I showed you something mike had posted, I pointed out the address of the sender to you. And you said that person lived "down the road" from you. Remember? :)
I do say so! And no, I don't recall you showing me anything with anyone's address on it.
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I do say so! And no, I don't recall you showing me anything with anyone's address on it.
Here we go. It was really bugging me, I thought I was going mad until this came back to me today. :)
The details of the person that sent it to Jeremy can be seen on the orange label. I've never heard of that person before :-\ Should I have?
I didn't notice the orange label with the Co. Durham post code - but that person lives less than 2 miles from me ;D ;D ;D! It's clearly a supporter and what he has written is his OPINION.
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Here we go. It was really bugging me, I thought I was going mad until this came back to me today. :)
Lucky you found that eh? ;)
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Lucky you found that eh? ;)
Of course ::)
I actually initiated that conversation back then all to cover my spying operations. Always one step ahead 8) ::)
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Of course ::)
I actually initiated that conversation back then all to cover my spying operations. Always one step ahead 8) ::)
Yeah whatever - we both know and Jackie's silence spoke volumes! ;) Oh! and you have plenty of form.
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Carol Ann Lee well and truly busted
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Carol Ann Lee well and truly busted
Are you here to discuss the case, or figure out with of the other jurors is in on it?
Whichever side of the fence you're on, and frankly it matters not, petty arguing just brings the forum into disrepute and undermines some of the valiant work genuinely interested persons are putting in.
It isn't only you, you are merely symbolic, but the forum is looking like a kindergaten.
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Are you here to discuss the case, or figure out with of the other jurors is in on it?
Whichever side of the fence you're on, and frankly it matters not, petty arguing just brings the forum into disrepute and undermines some of the valiant work genuinely interested persons are putting in.
It isn't only you, you are merely symbolic, but the forum is looking like a kindergaten.
What part of the case would you like to talk about?
Two bodies in the kitchen has been debunked long ago.
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Are you here to discuss the case, or figure out with of the other jurors is in on it?
Whichever side of the fence you're on, and frankly it matters not, petty arguing just brings the forum into disrepute and undermines some of the valiant work genuinely interested persons are putting in.
It isn't only you, you are merely symbolic, but the forum is looking like a kindergaten.
I know it was never like this but I am here for the truth while others are here just to disrupt
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I know it was never like this but I am here for the truth while others are here just to disrupt
It all turned toxic when Caroline and her sidekick done a complete 180 along with Paul Harrison.
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Sometimes we have good discussions. Other times it turns personal and posters use distraction techniques .
I did say it should all come down if possible as we will have more visitors because of the drama .
Unfortunately it fell on deaf ears .,
I still have questions . Always have .
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Are you here to discuss the case, or figure out with of the other jurors is in on it?
Whichever side of the fence you're on, and frankly it matters not, petty arguing just brings the forum into disrepute and undermines some of the valiant work genuinely interested persons are putting in.
It isn't only you, you are merely symbolic, but the forum is looking like a kindergaten.
Well Said.
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Sometimes we have good discussions. Other times it turns personal and posters use distraction techniques .
I did say it should all come down if possible as we will have more visitors because of the drama .
Unfortunately it fell on deaf ears .,
I still have questions . Always have .
It’s all about public perception and challenging lies Jan. There were no twisted letters and I don’t want impartial people being misled who could potentially be suppporters
In this case public perception is everything as things stand right now or do we go on like this for another ten years
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It all turned toxic when Caroline and her sidekick done a complete 180 along with Paul Harrison.
It turned toxic when you joined.
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It turned toxic when you joined.
No it turned toxic when you started going over to the red forum making sexual comments about female JB supporters
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No it turned toxic when you started going over to the red forum making sexual comments about female JB supporters
I hope not !
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No it turned toxic when you started going over to the red forum making sexual comments about female JB supporters
Idiot!!
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Idiot!!
And you tell me about contempt ??
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I hope not !
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That isn't nice is it ?
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Is that really caroliine saying that ? Really ?
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Is that really caroliine saying that ? Really ?
Looks like it.
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Wow . That’s disgusting.
I am shocked .
I know none of us are friends on here . But that’s pretty low if it’s true .
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You lot are bonkers! Seriously bonkers! You fall into her hands every time 'right bunch of fannies' can refer to both male and females - trust her to make it into something sexual and trust you lot to fall for it!
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That’s not what it says .
It’s obvious what it means .
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That’s not what it says .
It’s obvious what it means .
No, that's your dirty mind!
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fanny%20about
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No, that's your dirty mind!
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fanny%20about
Don’t start turning it round on me .
I am moving on to posts . To be honest I am not interested .
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Don’t start turning it round on me .
I am moving on to posts . To be honest I am not interested .
Then don't try telling me what I meant! I didn't mention any kind of sexual contortion nor did I mean any. That was Jackie and the rest of you. I was referring to PEOPLE who "engage in activity which produces little or no accomplishment!" Male or female!
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back to the thread, i think carol ann has obviously had more than 5 or 6 letters but definitely not hundreds. it seems both the campaign team and carol are telling a few porkies. in the grand scheme of things does it really matter.
i do find it interesting though that jb writes so many letters to many people. he must be a brilliant liar if he’s saying the same thing to multiple people and a fantastic memory. unless he is of course telling the truth.
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back to the thread, i think carol ann has obviously had more than 5 or 6 letters but definitely not hundreds. it seems both the campaign team and carol are telling a few porkies. in the grand scheme of things does it really matter.
i do find it interesting though that jb writes so many letters to many people. he must be a brilliant liar if he’s saying the same thing to multiple people and a fantastic memory. unless he is of course telling the truth.
Actually, liars often have well rehearsed routines. Consistency is no indication of truth.
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Actually, liars often have well rehearsed routines. Consistency is no indication of truth.
Yes as in most things with this case he could be prolific with his letters to try and get people on his side to try and prove his innocence - or as others have implicated he could just be attention seeking .
He obviously trusted CAL though .
And in her book to be fair she did not seem to try and influence the reader with her own opinion . she has said this herself.
It is only with the drama promotion that her guilty stance has been drawn attention to .
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Yes as in most things with this case he could be prolific with his letters to try and get people on his side to try and prove his innocence - or as others have implicated he could just be attention seeking .
He obviously trusted CAL though .
And in her book to be fair she did not seem to try and influence the reader with her own opinion . she has said this herself.
It is only with the drama promotion that her guilty stance has been drawn attention to .
She did influence the readers with her own opinion.
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She did influence the readers with her own opinion.
What is wrong with that?
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What is wrong with that?
Made worse by the fact that the production team ignored Jeremy's legal team in setting the record straight on a number of anomalies which had been presented in the drama thus not always displaying a truer/ clearer picture of what did happen. The information offered was/is backed by proof of how events unfolded and not how the author had wished it to be.
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What is wrong with that?
Nothing, unless you are trying to make out that you have not.
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Made worse by the fact that the production team ignored Jeremy's legal team in setting the record straight on a number of anomalies which had been presented in the drama thus not always displaying a truer/ clearer picture of what did happen. The information offered was/is backed by proof of how events unfolded and not how the author had wished it to be.
I believe it was the CT and not the solicitors working for Bamber who wanted to add their two penneth and refused? Bamber’s solicitors or legal team added nothing to set the record straight? Here is their statement, all they was concerned about was the timing?
Jeremy Bamber ITV Drama - Statement
Posted on December 17, 2019
On or around the 8th January 2020 ITV is scheduled to broadcast a Drama based on the case of Jeremy Bamber and what happened at White House Farm . This is our statement on behalf of our Client Jeremy Bamber .
In view of the proposed broadcast of this drama series approaches are being made by the media for a comment by our Client and his campaign over this drama due to be aired .
This arises in the context of an on going and very active process to seek to return the case of Jeremy Bamber back to the Court of Appeal ,including importantly judicial review proceedings which have been issued against the Director of Public Prosecutions relating to serious non disclosure which our Client says have occurred .
As a result of this we have written to the producers of the Drama Series and invited them to postpone the broadcast of this series whilst matters are resolved in the High Court . We have intimated that we are concerned that such a drama series by its nature will place a fictitious narrative in the public domain which may be counter productive to the administration of justice in due course .
Our Client understands that considerable resources may have been put into this drama series and therefore does not today suggest it should be cancelled rather that as a matter of precaution any broadcast should be delayed pending the High Court Case .
We will not be making any further comment in view of the ongoing case before the Court .
ENDS
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She did influence the readers with her own opinion.
Actually I got bored with the book at the end as there did not seem to be much new in it so you might be right I could have snoozed off towards the end .
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What is wrong with that?
From 2015 before the drama
She said in an interview she would not be drawn her opinion she wanted the readers to come to their own conclusions.
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You lot are bonkers! Seriously bonkers! You fall into her hands every time 'right bunch of fannies' can refer to both male and females - trust her to make it into something sexual and trust you lot to fall for it!
In the North East, the term 'fanny' or 'fannies' has two meanings. Obviously the first is anatomical. However, it is also a commonly used phrase to describe somebody who is: over cautious; pedantic; fastidious; straight laced; faffy (eg 'he's always faffing' on); a hetrosexual male who overly grooms himself; a person wasting time ie 'fannying on' with something. A person or people easily offended. In addition, a person who flaps (apologies no pun intended) or panics in an everyday situation is described as a 'fanny in a fit'.
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In this case it would depend in which context, wouldn't it ?
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In the North East, the term 'fanny' or 'fannies' has two meanings. Obviously the first is anatomical. However, it is also a commonly used phrase to describe somebody who is: over cautious; pedantic; fastidious; straight laced; faffy (eg 'he's always faffing' on); a hetrosexual male who overly grooms himself; a person wasting time ie 'fannying on' with something. A person or people easily offended. In addition, a person who flaps (apologies no pun intended) or panics in an everyday situation is described as a 'fanny in a fit'.
So what does JBs "fanny club" who write all these letters to him consist of then? ::)
Heterosexual males looking for grooming advice?
People who panic about everything ?
There is only one interpretation that fits the context here and that's the anatomical one.
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So what does JBs "fanny club" who write all these letters to him consist of then? ::)
Heterosexual males looking for grooming advice?
People who panic about everything ?
There is only one interpretation that fits the context here and that's the anatomical one.
Furthermore, it was Mythster who first mentioned it. The same Mythster who recently claimed JBs supporters were "hybristophiliacs" that somehow don't get turned off by his relentless protests of innocence.
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I have just had to look that up?
Hybristophilia is a paraphilia in which sexual arousal, facilitation, and attainment of orgasm are responsive to and contingent upon being with a partner known to have committed an outrage, cheating, lying, known infidelities, or crime—such as rape, murder, or armed robbery.
Charming
Just because I don’t praise a bunch of lying scumbags who have stitched up an innocent man
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i dont theres a writter who hasnt cliamed to have spocken to him apartfrom wilkes.
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Scott Lomax has, which is why his book has more truth in it.