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Re: CALS False Claims She has Spoken To JB
« Reply #45 on: February 05, 2020, 03:32:PM »

We have to bear in mind that there is likely to be huge difference between what 'the paper' CLAIMS, she said, and what she actually said. When I think about it, a bit like radio messages being sent back to HQ from a crime scene and getting reinterpreted.

Well, unless someone posts the quote or mentions which newspaper, we'll never know. The paper may have assumed or this lot might have gone off half cocked again.
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« Reply #46 on: February 05, 2020, 03:32:PM »
Which paper? But I want the quote from Jackie!






I'd thought it was the Metro but it was an unknown source to me and one who was obviously written by a guilter judging by other remarks---which were wrong.

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« Reply #47 on: February 05, 2020, 03:35:PM »





I'd thought it was the Metro but it was an unknown source to me and one who was obviously written by a guilter judging by other remarks---which were wrong.

OK - so no source then?
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« Reply #48 on: February 05, 2020, 03:38:PM »
OK - so no source then?






I'm looking for it now only because I remember seeing it.

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« Reply #49 on: February 05, 2020, 03:41:PM »
Even in the Metro CAL says that she contacted Jeremy with a view to writing her book ?

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« Reply #50 on: February 05, 2020, 03:42:PM »





I'm looking for it now only because I remember seeing it.

Look forward to reading it myself and for Jackie's reference too.
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« Reply #51 on: February 05, 2020, 03:43:PM »
Even in the Metro CAL says that she contacted Jeremy with a view to writing her book ?

She did, through his solicitor! Where in the sentence does it state she phoned? Also in that sentence, it's clear she made it OBVIOUS why she wanted to write!
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« Reply #52 on: February 05, 2020, 03:44:PM »
I believe the word 'twisted' was not a direct quote and used by The Sun to sensationalise. This is quite obvious by the direct quotes from CAL when she states that he was ALWAYS POLITE. Again common sense should make this obvious. I have never seen so much BS posted here to try and denigrate someone as I have in recent weeks over these letters and the drama. You should ALL be ashamed of yourselves!  >:(


Hasn't a banquet been made from the usage of 'twisted'? Not for a moment do I think they run with The Cambridge Dictionary's description. It's far too 'clean'. It's dirt they've wanted, and dirt they've determined to find. As Jeremy is still where Jeremy is likely to remain, I assume their real focus was to bring CAL down and destroy her reputation. With so small a moral compass, it's likely they'd have felt proud had they achieved their aim.

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« Reply #53 on: February 05, 2020, 03:49:PM »

Hasn't a banquet been made from the usage of 'twisted'? Not for a moment do I think they run with The Cambridge Dictionary's description. It's far too 'clean'. It's dirt they've wanted, and dirt they've determined to find. As Jeremy is still where Jeremy is likely to remain, I assume their real focus was to bring CAL down and destroy her reputation. With so small a moral compass, it's likely they'd have felt proud had they achieved their aim.

Well if that was their intention, all they have really managed to do is make themselves look like over excited, obsessed idiots - who are clearly all short sighted!
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Re: CALS False Claims She has Spoken To JB
« Reply #54 on: February 05, 2020, 03:53:PM »
Look forward to reading it myself and for Jackie's reference too.


The Jeremy Bamber crime scene photo that one woman will never forget
She wrote regular letters


The Jeremy Bamber crime scene photo that one woman will never forget
She wrote regular letters to Bamber himself          

BY HOPE WOOLSTON

14:14, 15 JAN 2020

UPDATED15:00, 20 JAN 2020



White House Farm at Tolleshunt d'Arcy Essex

Carol Ann Lee was 16 during the summer of 1985 when five members of the same family were shot dead in a farm in Essex

Little did this girl know that one day she would be exchanging regular letters with their killer, Jeremy Bamber, the man convicted of murdering his own family to get his hands on his inheritance.



Carol, an author and autobiographer, decided she wanted to find out more after seeing a documentary about the notorious White House Farm murders.

She started work on her book in 2012 and even wrote to Bamber himself, who is serving a whole-life sentence and to this day protests his innocence


From the photos she’ll never forget, to the 'charming' letters she received from Bamber, here are the shocking things she learnt while investigating White House Farm murders.


Carol and Bamber exchanged regular letters in her time working on the book.
She said: "He comes across as very charming, but manipulative.
"He is very much in control of the information he wants to discuss."



The author claimed Bamber would not reply to questions about certain subjects, particularly his adoptive sister Sheila's personal life, who was initially blamed for the case in a murder-suicide theory.

"What once was very frequent contact started to slow down," she said.

"He wanted to be able to tell his story of innocence, and convince the world that he did not kill his family."

Carol said that she always tried to keep an open mind on Bamber's guilt, but found his behaviour was hard to ignore.

She said: "He could be very personable, and would ask how I was, but he was very aware of his life.

"He offered to proof read my book, and point out any mistakes that I had made

"I told him that that wasn't going to work."

Carol claims to have seen photos that very few people have laid eyes on, and there is one she will never forget.

After seeing the tragic and horrific bloodbath that police were met with when they first discovered the bodies, she explained:

"One picture that I saw said to me that the person who did it was very good with a gun.

"This person was not at all shaky and knew how and where to shoot.

"This case got to me like nothing else has.
"I cannot get the pictures of the crime scene out of my head."


Carol has spoken with Bamber,

friends and the family of the victims and police officers who dealt with the case.


She explained: "You have to get so involved with the stories that you end up dreaming about them.


"I have so many dreams about White House Farm.”

In Carol’s personal opinion, she is 100 per cent sure that Bamber was the one to kill his family, and said she will be the "first to apologise" if he is ever acquitted.


She explained: "He will never stop appealing because he has nothing to lose.

"If he admits to his crimes, he might get parole but he will come out as a child killer.”


Carol's book, The Murders at White House Farm: Jeremy Bamber and the killing of his family.
The definitive investigation was first published in 2015.

She was approached by production company New Pictures who said they were going to be creating a TV drama about the crime.

She was asked to be a consultant for the production, and gave them a huge amount of her research to make the series.


Carol said: "It was very strange to see the actors as the characters.

"They worked so hard to make sure that they portrayed the true characters."


She also got to be an extra in a courtroom scene.

The fictional version of Bamber's trial in the TV drama was filmed at Chelmsford Court Court, in the very next room to where the actual trial happened.
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: CALS False Claims She has Spoken To JB
« Reply #55 on: February 05, 2020, 03:56:PM »

The Jeremy Bamber crime scene photo that one woman will never forget
She wrote regular letters


The Jeremy Bamber crime scene photo that one woman will never forget
She wrote regular letters to Bamber himself         

BY HOPE WOOLSTON

14:14, 15 JAN 2020

UPDATED15:00, 20 JAN 2020



White House Farm at Tolleshunt d'Arcy Essex

Carol Ann Lee was 16 during the summer of 1985 when five members of the same family were shot dead in a farm in Essex

Little did this girl know that one day she would be exchanging regular letters with their killer, Jeremy Bamber, the man convicted of murdering his own family to get his hands on his inheritance.



Carol, an author and autobiographer, decided she wanted to find out more after seeing a documentary about the notorious White House Farm murders.

She started work on her book in 2012 and even wrote to Bamber himself, who is serving a whole-life sentence and to this day protests his innocence


From the photos she’ll never forget, to the 'charming' letters she received from Bamber, here are the shocking things she learnt while investigating White House Farm murders.


Carol and Bamber exchanged regular letters in her time working on the book.
She said: "He comes across as very charming, but manipulative.
"He is very much in control of the information he wants to discuss."



The author claimed Bamber would not reply to questions about certain subjects, particularly his adoptive sister Sheila's personal life, who was initially blamed for the case in a murder-suicide theory.

"What once was very frequent contact started to slow down," she said.

"He wanted to be able to tell his story of innocence, and convince the world that he did not kill his family."

Carol said that she always tried to keep an open mind on Bamber's guilt, but found his behaviour was hard to ignore.

She said: "He could be very personable, and would ask how I was, but he was very aware of his life.

"He offered to proof read my book, and point out any mistakes that I had made

"I told him that that wasn't going to work."

Carol claims to have seen photos that very few people have laid eyes on, and there is one she will never forget.

After seeing the tragic and horrific bloodbath that police were met with when they first discovered the bodies, she explained:

"One picture that I saw said to me that the person who did it was very good with a gun.

"This person was not at all shaky and knew how and where to shoot.

"This case got to me like nothing else has.
"I cannot get the pictures of the crime scene out of my head."


Carol has spoken with Bamber,

friends and the family of the victims and police officers who dealt with the case.


She explained: "You have to get so involved with the stories that you end up dreaming about them.


"I have so many dreams about White House Farm.”

In Carol’s personal opinion, she is 100 per cent sure that Bamber was the one to kill his family, and said she will be the "first to apologise" if he is ever acquitted.


She explained: "He will never stop appealing because he has nothing to lose.

"If he admits to his crimes, he might get parole but he will come out as a child killer.”


Carol's book, The Murders at White House Farm: Jeremy Bamber and the killing of his family.
The definitive investigation was first published in 2015.

She was approached by production company New Pictures who said they were going to be creating a TV drama about the crime.

She was asked to be a consultant for the production, and gave them a huge amount of her research to make the series.


Carol said: "It was very strange to see the actors as the characters.

"They worked so hard to make sure that they portrayed the true characters."


She also got to be an extra in a courtroom scene.

The fictional version of Bamber's trial in the TV drama was filmed at Chelmsford Court Court, in the very next room to where the actual trial happened.

Where does it mention phone?
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Re: CALS False Claims She has Spoken To JB
« Reply #56 on: February 05, 2020, 03:57:PM »
Caroline you really are a piece of work with your gang now by return I want a copy of where she has contacted
Hope to say it’s a lie

No wonder you two are friends

You are an absolute disgrace the way you speak to people and try to cover up for CALS lies

She is 100% sure JB is guilty when she hasn’t even spoken to him
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #57 on: February 05, 2020, 03:59:PM »
Where does it mention phone?

You need medical help???

She has spoken to him

Get it
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: CALS False Claims She has Spoken To JB
« Reply #58 on: February 05, 2020, 04:07:PM »
How else could anyone speak to someone other than the phone, if they couldn't meet ? ::)

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Re: CALS False Claims She has Spoken To JB
« Reply #59 on: February 05, 2020, 04:11:PM »
why dont why just ask her for copys problem solved.