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Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1875 on: February 26, 2021, 08:40:PM »
There's more evidence against Luke Mitchell here. Does anyone know whether any of these witnesses alluded to testified? https://theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2021/02/evidence-that-convinced-a-jury-of-luke-mitchells-guilt/

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« Reply #1876 on: February 26, 2021, 08:43:PM »
Thanks, I’m not trying to be biased, but I’ve only watched the first episode and it didn’t sit right with the Mother, I didn’t know anything about this case before, but the more I’ve delved into the Mother it gets worse than I thought.


How true is this does anyone know?
The Jacket and missing knife, why did the Mother replace them with the exact same ones 'He Lost' AFTER the Murder


I’d just like to add, my uttermost thoughts are with Jodi’s family, how they cope with something like this is horrendous, the fact these family’s have to live through appeal after appeal and then get documentaries made about it from so called experts, either proclaiming new evidence or revisiting the case and offering nothing new,  other than fuel to stir up public emotions and hoping for support from people who don’t know the case.
I know all this doesn’t mean your a Murderer

But even from the first episode and what I’ve read this is the impression I was getting?

It is abundantly clear that things were dreadfully amiss in the Mitchell household: there appears, from the evidence in court, beneath the wellmaintained, affluent surface, to have been a spiritual and psychological squalor which manifested itself in violence, pornography, underage sex, drug-taking, lack of cleanliness ect

Is this true as well?  All taken from THE HERALD?

She bought him knives. She lied for him. At home, he was allowed to sleep with underage girls; he smoked cannabis; he kept bottles of urine in his bedroom, which was described as a hovel. He stored computers on his bed and appeared to doss on a mattress on the f loor.

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Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1877 on: February 26, 2021, 08:47:PM »
He was seeing 2 other girls at the time. He had texts on his phone from Kimberley Thomson in which they were saying they loved each other 3 days before the murder. Luke was also looking forward to spending time with her over the summer holidays. Not sure how he was going to explain that one to Jodi. Sandra tries to downplay this relationship but they spent valentines day together and she also stayed with Luke and Corinne at New Year. Kimberley Thomson posted on the James English podcast adamant that Mitchell owned a Parka before the murder and would brag about concealing knives in it.
Did the Prosecution ever speculate as to the motive for the murder? Was Jodi expendable now that Luke had other fish to fry or was it guilt by association with a summer solstice devil ritual?

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« Reply #1878 on: February 26, 2021, 08:52:PM »
nailed it .

she doesnt.

same for sandra. this is never address and its crucial
Thanks, you know the two officers who do the programme or so called detectives have they had a corruption probe before, or have I got the wrong two?  If so what happened?

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« Reply #1879 on: February 26, 2021, 08:54:PM »
There's mo :)re evidence against Luke Mitchell here. Does anyone know whether any of these witnesses alluded to testified? https://theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2021/02/evidence-that-convinced-a-jury-of-luke-mitchells-guilt/
Thanks Steve, google the two officers and see if it’s the same two, or has this been put up before I’ve not gone too far back.

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« Reply #1880 on: February 26, 2021, 08:57:PM »
Right I’ve got that better sorry.

Mitchell's brother testified he had been viewing internet pornography in the house at the time Mitchell said he had been there; under cross examination Mitchell's brother said he would only have done this if he thought the house to be otherwise empty. Mitchell's brother said he had not seen Mitchell in the house that afternoon, thereby failing to corroborate his defence of being in the family home at the time of the murder.[8]


Right how does Corrie get past this one if she says they were cooking and the brother says they wasn’t?

According to the book it basically says the police interview and questioning in court tied him up in knots, he was not able to say his side of the story properly.

I’ve heard from people here Shane openly tells people Luke is guilty but It’s also been said Shane supports Luke but from behind the scenes, basically wants to be able to get on with his life.

So for me it all comes down to Shane, if he genuinely was not able to give his side in court, then now is the time to clarify his point and do what he can to help his brother. If, on the other hand, he knows his brother was not home I can understand his absence from the doc and everything else. If he really can’t remember then that’s also understandable, other people can’t remember important moments like the 2 on the moped at the v at the time of the murder. I’d love to hear what he has to say.

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Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1881 on: February 26, 2021, 09:01:PM »

Is this true as well?  All taken from THE HERALD?

She bought him knives. She lied for him. At home, he was allowed to sleep with underage girls; he smoked cannabis; he kept bottles of urine in his bedroom, which was described as a hovel. He stored computers on his bed and appeared to doss on a mattress on the f loor.

knives is true - order form from hunting catalogue was produced as evidence:
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/in-this-undated-handout-issued-by-lothian-and-borders-news-photo/52042943?adppopup=true

simultaneous girlfriend kimberley has been allowed to stay at their home for some time, that doesnt necessarily mean sleeping together
he most definitely smoked cannabis and was known to deal
urine in room was found by liaison officer in between murder and trial i believe (many bottles)


plenty pictures of his room out there to find:
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/in-this-undated-handout-issued-by-lothian-and-borders-news-photo/52042868?adppopup=true

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/09/09/020A93C10000044D-0-image-m-12_1507537695955.jpg

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Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1882 on: February 26, 2021, 09:02:PM »
I know all this doesn’t mean your a Murderer

But even from the first episode and what I’ve read this is the impression I was getting?

It is abundantly clear that things were dreadfully amiss in the Mitchell household: there appears, from the evidence in court, beneath the wellmaintained, affluent surface, to have been a spiritual and psychological squalor which manifested itself in violence, pornography, underage sex, drug-taking, lack of cleanliness ect

Is this true as well?  All taken from THE HERALD?

She bought him knives. She lied for him. At home, he was allowed to sleep with underage girls; he smoked cannabis; he kept bottles of urine in his bedroom, which was described as a hovel. He stored computers on his bed and appeared to doss on a mattress on the f loor.
It's heartbreaking really, when what was required was the tough love approach from an early age, the carrot and the stick, when to all intents and purposes the stick has been removed as modern-day sanction. I don't mean physical violence but the threat of being grounded, of withdrawing pocket money, removing television or mobile telephone. Instead he seems to have been indulged and his waywardness disregarded until it became a hedonism which nobody could control. Where were the parents, the teachers, the ministers and elders, why didn't this young man have some normal leisure pastimes instead of the deadening central nervous system stimulants, which only exacerbated his anguish and led to a downward spiral of despair, culminating in this shocking crime if law enforcement is to be believed?

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« Reply #1883 on: February 26, 2021, 09:06:PM »
According to the book it basically says the police interview and questioning in court tied him up in knots, he was not able to say his side of the story properly.

I’ve heard from people here Shane openly tells people Luke is guilty but It’s also been said Shane supports Luke but from behind the scenes, basically wants to be able to get on with his life.

So for me it all comes down to Shane, if he genuinely was not able to give his side in court, then now is the time to clarify his point and do what he can to help his brother. If, on the other hand, he knows his brother was not home I can understand his absence from the doc and everything else. If he really can’t remember then that’s also understandable, other people can’t remember important moments like the 2 on the moped at the v at the time of the murder. I’d love to hear what he has to say.
Yes I’m finding it all strange, revisiting his statement where he says he would only watch porn when he was alone, by all accounts I don’t think that would be the case, I don’t think he would give a toss who was in the house even his mother.

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Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1884 on: February 26, 2021, 09:18:PM »
knives is true - order form from hunting catalogue was produced as evidence:
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/in-this-undated-handout-issued-by-lothian-and-borders-news-photo/52042943?adppopup=true

simultaneous girlfriend kimberley has been allowed to stay at their home for some time, that doesnt necessarily mean sleeping together
he most definitely smoked cannabis and was known to deal
urine in room was found by liaison officer in between murder and trial i believe (many bottles)


plenty pictures of his room out there to find:
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/in-this-undated-handout-issued-by-lothian-and-borders-news-photo/52042868?adppopup=true

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/09/09/020A93C10000044D-0-image-m-12_1507537695955.jpg
Thanks, I’ve only ever heard of one other storing urine and that was a Howard Hughes.  But I’ve since read, drug users store it, they usually store urine clear of drugs, samples if that makes sense?

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Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1885 on: February 26, 2021, 09:51:PM »
knives is true - order form from hunting catalogue was produced as evidence:
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/in-this-undated-handout-issued-by-lothian-and-borders-news-photo/52042943?adppopup=true

simultaneous girlfriend kimberley has been allowed to stay at their home for some time, that doesnt necessarily mean sleeping together
he most definitely smoked cannabis and was known to deal
urine in room was found by liaison officer in between murder and trial i believe (many bottles)


plenty pictures of his room out there to find:
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/in-this-undated-handout-issued-by-lothian-and-borders-news-photo/52042868?adppopup=true

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/09/09/020A93C10000044D-0-image-m-12_1507537695955.jpg
thanks, I’ve just read this also.

At the time of the murder Mitchell owned a ‘skunting’ knife which has never been found despite an extensive search of his house.

His mother bought him another knife and during a subsequent search of the family home many months later, the pouch from the knife, but not the knife itself, was recovered. A number of inscriptions had been made on the pouch: the numbers “666”; an inscription which read “JJ 1989 – 2003”, these being the years of Jodi’s birth and death; and the words “The finest day I ever had was when tomorrow never came”, a quote from the lead singer of Nirvana.

One of the most significant pieces of evidence was that Mitchell had owned and worn a parka-style jacket in the previous months and that he was wearing such a jacket early in the evening of the murder.

The jacket was not found during a search of the house and the prosecution sought to link this with evidence that a log burner in the back garden of Mitchell’s home had been used around 1830 – 1930 and later, at around 2200 that night with an unusual smell emanating from it. The inference being that the coat had been burned to destroy evidence.

Mitchell’s mother then bought him an identical jacket to the one that was missing.

I know you’ve probably read or know about all this, but I’m just going over it and it saves anyone new having to go back over posts to find this.





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Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1886 on: February 26, 2021, 10:12:PM »
Thanks Steve, google the two officers and see if it’s the same two, or has this been put up before I’ve not gone too far back.
So  Michael Neill has this to say?  Physically impossible’ Luke Mitchell murdered Jodi Jones, claim ex-cops

He said: “I’ve not seen anything to prove to me Mitchell definitely did not murder Jodi but I’ve also not seen anything to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he did.

  Oh right great detective work then! From your contradictingHeadline,  So your making a tv programme and your still unsure, but your willing to put the family through hell again because your unsure.

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Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1887 on: February 27, 2021, 12:09:AM »
A BBC investigation: https://youtu.be/-m-zHEUOFR0

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Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1888 on: February 27, 2021, 03:21:PM »
I would like to know more details about the knife found near the scene in 2010 that had Lukes name carved on it. And whether it belongs or fits with Luke's empty knife pouch.

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Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1889 on: February 27, 2021, 06:51:PM »
I would like to know more details about the knife found near the scene in 2010 that had Lukes name carved on it. And whether it belongs or fits with Luke's empty knife pouch.

Was there not 2 knives found, one in 2010 with Luke’s name, police did tests but nothing found. Then another is 2015, brown handled kitchen knife type found in the wall, but i don’t think tests were carried out.

Do the police still have these? Would an independent review take these into account or is it only evidence used in the trial? If tests were carried out on all the dna/forensics they have plus these knives we might start to get somewhere.