Re: The murder of Jodi Jones

[sandra L]

Not by me it hasn't. Not ever.

[Caroline]

Didn't Luke Mitchell once say he'd rather die in prison than admit to doing something he hadn't done ?

Back in 1986 a Michael Shirley had said the same thing after having been accused of murdering Linda Cook.
Shirley, after serving a minimum sentence of 15 years he would have been released had he admitted guilt, but he refused, saying that he'd have been prepared to have stayed put to prove his innocence. His sentence was quashed in 2003 by the CoA as a result of exculpatory DNA evidence.

Is there any information regarding DNA evidence from Luke Mitchell ?

Strange that if you admit to a murder your release is fast-tracked yet if there's no admission you're kept locked up ad infinitum like Jeremy Bamber where the " excuse " of being in denial is used  ::)As if !!

Being released as a guilty murderer would be no life. There is no incentive in this respect for a murderer who has claimed innocence to admit guilt. Bamber will never admit he's guilty, that doesn't mean he isn't.

[lookout]

Being released as a guilty murderer would be no life. There is no incentive in this respect for a murderer who has claimed innocence to admit guilt. Bamber will never admit he's guilty, that doesn't mean he isn't.

So he must be thrilled that each waking day he finds himself surrounded by 4 walls.
Even a " false confession " would have got him parole ?

[lookout]

Even the law and prison officials haven't a clue how to handle those who are supposedly in denial as it's classed as ineligible for parole which is how Stephen Downing was treated when he was locked up for 27 years, a lifetime for being innocent.

[Caroline]

So he must be thrilled that each waking day he finds himself surrounded by 4 walls.
Even a " false confession " would have got him parole ?

Like a lot of other prisoners.

[Caroline]

Even the law and prison officials haven't a clue how to handle those who are supposedly in denial as it's classed as ineligible for parole which is how Stephen Downing was treated when he was locked up for 27 years, a lifetime for being innocent.

The reason it is ineligible for parole, is because they can't do rehabilitation courses that are part of the parole process unless they admit guilt. This wouldn't apply to Bamber as he was given a whole life tariff so admitting to guilt, wouldn't really change anything. Unless he can PROVE he really is innocent, he won't get out.

[lookout]

Like a lot of other prisoners.

" Like a lot of other prisoners " what and who ? There are no others to my knowledge.

[lookout]

It's unusual for a prisoner to confess to a crime beyond 10 years of incarceration. Even if it's to his cell-mate initially.
Stephen Downing waited 27 for his freedom when his conviction was overturned which proves to me that the innocents are in no hurry other than to see justice done. It's the real criminals who are released before them !

[lookout]

The law is an ass !!

[lookout]

The reason it is ineligible for parole, is because they can't do rehabilitation courses that are part of the parole process unless they admit guilt. This wouldn't apply to Bamber as he was given a whole life tariff so admitting to guilt, wouldn't really change anything. Unless he can PROVE he really is innocent, he won't get out.

He'd already proved his innocence via the phone-calls but it wasn't his fault that EP made a pig's ear out of it preferring to ignore JB in order to cover their own backsides.

[lookout]

The reason it is ineligible for parole, is because they can't do rehabilitation courses that are part of the parole process unless they admit guilt. This wouldn't apply to Bamber as he was given a whole life tariff so admitting to guilt, wouldn't really change anything. Unless he can PROVE he really is innocent, he won't get out.

It's those prisoners who are released and have been open about their crimes have the highest risk of re-offending
Being in " denial " is not a valid measure of risk as it has no bearing on the likelihood of re-offending.

[nugnug]

It's those prisoners who are released and have been open about their crimes have the highest risk of re-offending
Being in " denial " is not a valid measure of risk as it has no bearing on the likelihood of re-offending.

yes i would agrea lookout.

[Caroline]

" Like a lot of other prisoners " what and who ? There are no others to my knowledge.

No other prisoners who maintain their innocence? There are loads of them Lookout, most just don't get the attention that some cases do!

[Caroline]

It's unusual for a prisoner to confess to a crime beyond 10 years of incarceration. Even if it's to his cell-mate initially.
Stephen Downing waited 27 for his freedom when his conviction was overturned which proves to me that the innocents are in no hurry other than to see justice done. It's the real criminals who are released before them !

So in order to be innocent, you just never have to admit to being guilty? 

[Caroline]

It's those prisoners who are released and have been open about their crimes have the highest risk of re-offending
Being in " denial " is not a valid measure of risk as it has no bearing on the likelihood of re-offending.

That's because it's harder for the guilty ones who never admit their crimes - to get out! Jeremy won't re-offend because he won't get out. However, this is pretty much off-topic!