Re: The murder of Jodi Jones

[gordo30]

Well posts from various social media and other sources, it’s there if you look for it. The wording is in place to show that the case isn’t as clear cut, it shows that Sandra believes Luke’s innocence but that’s what you would expect, if Luke’s innocent then someone else is guilty.

[gordo30]

If it’s true and I doubt it to be honest, there could be more of a self preservation thing.

[Bullseye]

Sandra you said a few times in your book in reference to statements, call logs etc ‘information not available to the defence’  I assume the information was there at the time, as the statements were taken so need to be somewhere for example, but would this information still exist today or would it all now have been destroyed, not sure what the police procedures is for keeping this kind of stuff as the case is closed. If there was a retrial would the defence be able to get their hands on all this or is it still upto the police what they are given?

[Bullseye]

Why does Shane tell people his brother's guilty. The same Shane who destroyed his alibi. The same one who section himself just before his brother was arrested with it.

Sounds to me like someone who was struggling with giving the false alibi after pressure from his mum.

We need to hear from him tbh.

If I remember correct you have said you have spoken to Shane directly on this and heard it from the horses mouth, Sandra has also stated both Shane and the dad have always supported Luke and believe he is innocent, I’m not sure if that’s from Luke’s mum or them direct but either way until Shane is willing to speak out himself the rest of us will never know, unless we want to invade his privacy. Please don’t post his personal details again.

If it’s true and I doubt it to be honest, there could be more of a self preservation thing.

I also doubt this is true, or I doubt lithium has heard this directly from Shane but if it is then for me it would be case closed tbh, what he remembers and believes is crucial

[nugnug]

Why does Shane tell people his brother's guilty. The same Shane who destroyed his alibi. The same one who section himself just before his brother was arrested for it.

Sounds to me like someone who was struggling with giving the false alibi after pressure from his mum.

We need to hear from him tbh.

have you got  any evedence to back this up.

[Bullseye]

I never said that. I might have said that I know first hand because I know people he has said it to. Maybe you're remembering me saying I heard from JJ. I have never posted any personal details unless you're including his name which is public knowledge regarding this case. I've said myself feel free to ask him. If I'm wrong I'll admit it but I wouldn't be making such libelous claims if I wasn't sure.

Thanks for clarifying, my apologies I must be mixing you up with another poster who said they had spoken to Shane.

Also someone else posted his work place which I thought was totally out of order, that was not aimed at you that was at them

[gordo30]

I don’t know any other poster that could and lithium did post his work place

[Caroline]

This might not be relevant but I do this every Thursday night with a mate, we meet up at 8pm and head to the pub. The first two times I waited in the house but then after that I walk up to the end of my street around 7:50. He only texts me if he’s not going so there’s no real plan in place as sometimes it 20-30 mins later when he arrives.

This being the case, it would be usual for Luke to be waiting and no one said that.

[Caroline]

Yeah it's a pity Luke deleted them all at some point between arranging to meet Jodi and giving his phone to police.

Not suspicious at all though.

And now Sandra is saying the police deleted these texts. They had already decided to fit him up a few hours after Jodi was found.

Is this what we're being asked to believe here.

The phone data would reveal when they were deleted so it would be stupid for the police to have done this as it would show the phone to be in their care at the time.

[nugnug]

The phone data would reveal when they were deleted so it would be stupid for the police to have done this as it would show the phone to be in their care at the time.

well the timing proves they did.

[nugnug]

afraid not other than local knowledge.

in other wrds you made it up.

[nugnug]

I'm also curious as to why Luke asked Alan Ovens "is Jodi home?"

He called at 17:32 and received no answer.

Then called again 8 minutes later when AO answered. Luke asked if Jodi was home. Wouldn't the previous  unanswered call already indicate that she wasn't?

shhock horor guy phones to see if his girlfriend is home.

no how oes not nswering the phone once mean  your not home

[Caroline]

well the timing proves they did.

Have you seen this proof or do you just believe it exists because someone said so?

[nugnug]

If it was me and I was expecting Jodi to turn up, and had just tried to phone the house to no answer (indicating no one's home) I'd conclude that she was on her way to me.

no it concludes tht nobody was albel to answer tha minute.

[gordo30]

I think your right and what else would you do but wait for her, he did just that but what would be the point if she hadn’t arrive to try and find her? He couldn’t call her, he hadn’t got an answer later on, what else to do but what you intended that evening.