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Offline sandra L

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #105 on: June 12, 2019, 08:40:AM »
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Much like it was illegal for her to get him a tattoo and lie about his age, and let him smoke cigarettes and god knows what else. Let's not pretend this was a normal relationship with normal boundaries.

Let's take this bit by bit. It is not, and never has been, illegal for anyone under 18 to have a tattoo. What is illegal is for a person to tattoo someone they know, or believe, to be under eighteen. You see the difference there? The offence is on the tattooist who, incidentally, went on to give evidence against Luke.

"For her to get him a tattoo and lie about his age..." There's no evidence she lied about his age. The claim in court was that Luke provided "fake ID" showing him as over age (that ID, had it ever been produced in court, would have shown a picture of a man 40+ years old, but we'll leave that for the moment). It was Luke who signed the form in the shop. So all Corinne is guilty of is being there. Think about it - what 18 year old would take his mum along to "confirm" his age? Just a few years after the murder, the same parlour carried out a body piercing on one 14 year old girl I know and tattooed her 14 year old friend. That's why they used that particular parlour - because they knew no questions would be asked about their age.

The "fake ID" that was never produced in court, Corinne and Luke always denied the existence of. Like I said, it would have depicted a man of 40+ years old - the tattoo staff would have put themselves right on the line if they tried to claim in court they accepted that the person in the picture was the 15 year old boy standing in front of them. By the time of the appeal, the person whose name (not ID) Luke used on the form had given a statement saying Luke had never had access to his ID in any format. The statement wasn't used by the defence.

I smoked from the age of 13 - my parents didn't know. I was still under 16 when they found out but that still didn't stop me smoking. I knew loads of kids who smoked under the age of 16, both in my own generation and my daughters' generation.

"And god knows what else..." There we have it again - speculation and insinuation with nothing to back it up. What about, making him work for his pocket money? What about supporting his interests in outdoor activities - motorbikes, camping, tracking, etc? What about encouraging him to keep up his grades in school, setting a curfew time for him to be home both on school nights and weekends?

What about being a responsible enough parent to call Jodi's Gran to confirm Luke and a few others would be having a sleepover at her (the gran's) house ... even though the Gran lied to her, saying the teens would be in her house, knowing full well they were all going to sleep over at Yvonne Walker's flat?

What about Judith's own statement saying that, when she found out about the sleepover being at Yvonne's, she was so angry (because Jodi was banned from going to Yvonne's flat) that she threatened to tell Corinne. Jodi begged her not to because Corinne was "quite strict" with Luke and he'd be in deep trouble?

It has to go both ways. Either Luke, Jodi and the others were teenagers doing what teenagers do and their parents were doing the best they could, or everyone whose teenager was doing things they shouldn't have been doing was a bad parent. I know which one I believe.

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #106 on: June 12, 2019, 08:46:AM »

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Smoking cigs at Jodi's grave, yeah? Why did they change Jodi's name to Andrew Paxton on the headstone? That's the extent of the disrespect of the media in this case - that poor man's family have to see pictures of his headstone connected to such a dreadful case.

That is clearly a picture of Luke, Corinne and another friend walking through the cemetery, not standing at Jodi's grave, but why let the facts get in the way of a good lie?

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #107 on: June 12, 2019, 08:51:AM »
maybe you did it then.

Going by these forums it must have been me, I’m clearly a danger up the public and have been since I was 12. For the record I smoked weed since I was 15/16 and loved nirvana. I must be a serial killer by now 🤣

The dog is gorgeous by the way!

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #108 on: June 12, 2019, 11:31:AM »
Normal teenagers dont threaten girls with knifes

Its no secret that shane mitchell
Luke mitchells brother runs his own company  smd technical services in Livingston
http://www.smdtechnicalservices.com/ so why does sandra make out thats why we dont hear from.
So lets here from him or is the real reason we dont because he knows his brother is guilty


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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #109 on: June 12, 2019, 11:37:AM »
Sandra lean, they were seen smoking at jodis grave and left cigarettes ends?

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #110 on: June 12, 2019, 11:39:AM »
Sandra lean, they were seen smoking at jodis grave and left cigarettes ends?

erm he knew her she was girlfriend so i think might what was respectfull and not respectfull better than a complete starnger.

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #111 on: June 12, 2019, 11:40:AM »
Normal tenagers dont threaten girls with knifes

Its no secret that shane mitchell
Luke mitchells brother runs his own company  smd technical services in Livingston
http://www.smdtechnicalservices.com/
So lets here from him or is the real reason we dont because he knows his brother is guilty

if we getting into the stalking business im pretty good at that myself.

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #112 on: June 12, 2019, 12:39:PM »
Who took us off topic ... oh yes,, a ridiculous poster making ridiculous allegations about the identity of other posters. Sit down, Guiltyascharged, you're making a show of yourself.

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #113 on: June 12, 2019, 01:24:PM »
Normal teenagers dont threaten girls with knifes

Its no secret that shane mitchell
Luke mitchells brother runs his own company  smd technical services in Livingston
http://www.smdtechnicalservices.com/
So lets here from him or is the real reason we dont because he knows his brother is guilty

OMG he left a ciggy butt in the graveyard and that makes him a murderer. Normal teenage stuff. For goodness sake if yoh cannot be seriously asking us to consider this as part of the reason he is guilty in your opinion.

Instead of telling us why you think he’s guilty let’s hear why you dont think the other suspects are. Now that might be a good debate

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #114 on: June 12, 2019, 01:42:PM »
Would you do the same on someones grave you claim to love and who had recently passed? One of you mention respectfull the other normal teenage stuff  ,  another made out it didnt happen, what one is it,?

Luke was far from normal a teenager

My point was to correct sandra,  who was rubbishing another poster

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #115 on: June 12, 2019, 01:47:PM »
Would you do the same on someones grave you claim to love and who had recently passed?

My point was to correct sandra,  who was rubbishing another poster

yess and I have done.

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #116 on: June 12, 2019, 07:01:PM »
Here's what trolls do. They post something and elicit responses to it. Then they edit or delete their posts so that the responses make no sense. Then the whole conversation gets so confusing, people get fed up and stop participating.

Best not feed the trolls!!

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #117 on: June 12, 2019, 08:07:PM »
Nice try sandra, i had to edit other because  the post about your other usernames was removed.

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #118 on: June 12, 2019, 08:13:PM »
Sandra how often have you spoken to luke since the failed appeal. Have you guys resolved your problems?

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #119 on: June 13, 2019, 08:55:AM »
If you mean the refusal of the SCCRC to refer the case back to the court of appeal, I've communicated with Luke several times since, the most recent being this week.

In mid 2014, I took a break from the case after 11 years solid involvement. 18 months later, at the beginning of 2016, I became officially involved again and have been ever since. I had continued to work privately on the case during the 18 months "break," just not at the same level or with the same public exposure.

So that everyone reading this forum, new and old, is absolutely clear, I posted under one username that was not my own at the very beginning of this case for my own safety and that of my children. My identity was outed by a troll with no concern for the potential consequences. I have not posted using anything other than my own name (or variations of it, depending on the protocols of various sites - so, Sandra L, Dr Sandra, Sandra Lean, etc) in over a decade.