JB petition now has almost ten thousand signatures.

[lookout]

It's a common claim, it isn't knowledge until it's been proven.

Don't worry, it will be proven. I'm not sure but I think it may have been the poster " Martin " that also wrote about this in 2011 ?

[Caroline]

Don't worry, it will be proven. I'm not sure but I think it may have been the poster " Martin " that also wrote about this in 2011 ?

Don't count your chickens Lookout.

[Jane]

Don't worry, it will be proven. I'm not sure but I think it may have been the poster " Martin " that also wrote about this in 2011 ?

I'm not entirely convinced that anything, so far on from a crime committed in 1985, can be "proven". However, I am convinced that there's as much rumour and speculation surrounding it as there was regarding Diana's death in 1997.

[David1819]

Don't worry, it will be proven. I'm not sure but I think it may have been the poster " Martin " that also wrote about this in 2011 ?

The only way to prove the existence of it would be crime scene photos showing the Pargheter rifle on the premises.

Since 11 crime scene photos of the office and gun cupboard have been cut out from the film strips. Its probably impossible to confirm one way or the other.

If it was proven to be there, all it would prove is that the relatives have told yet more lies. So I don't really concern myself with it if that's all it can establish.

[lookout]

In the Essex County Standard of 2010 it had been stated that 2 moderators had been found ? I'd imagine that news such as this would have been retained by the legal team along with the fact that it had been later than the actual murders that paint had been found on one when it was discovered that the surround of the Aga had been scratched.

[Jane]

In the Essex County Standard of 2010 it had been stated that 2 moderators had been found ? I'd imagine that news such as this would have been retained by the legal team along with the fact that it had been later than the actual murders that paint had been found on one when it was discovered that the surround of the Aga had been scratched.

But diverse publications carried equally diverse and, probably, incorrect information, ie Sheila was a "top model"!! When was she ever that? I'm not suggesting that they made it up as they went -the Essex County Standard got that information from somewhere but it doesn't make it correct- but I think it must go without saying that what was printed first was probably based on information given to the police by Jeremy. Remember all the different things which were printed after Diana's death? It's STILL happening, but now it's called "Fake News".

[lookout]

But diverse publications carried equally diverse and, probably, incorrect information, ie Sheila was a "top model"!! When was she ever that? I'm not suggesting that they made it up as they went -the Essex County Standard got that information from somewhere but it doesn't make it correct- but I think it must go without saying that what was printed first was probably based on information given to the police by Jeremy. Remember all the different things which were printed after Diana's death? It's STILL happening, but now it's called "Fake News".

Plenty of " fake news " about JB from those who didn't know him but had professed that they had so it works both ways.

[lookout]

Plenty of " fake news " about JB from those who didn't know him but had professed that they had so it works both ways.

Another word for " Whoppers " really !

[Jane]

Plenty of " fake news " about JB from those who didn't know him but had professed that they had so it works both ways.

But you're making judgement calls on those you know nothing about. They at least had dealings with Jeremy prior to the murders and probably spoke their experience of how he was. Since then he's had plenty of time to reinvent himself and present an entirely different persona.

[Caroline]

Plenty of " fake news " about JB from those who didn't know him but had professed that they had so it works both ways.

Those are people who knew him better than you and yet you feel justified in giving your opinion having never met him.

[lookout]

Those are people who knew him better than you and yet you feel justified in giving your opinion having never met him.

You've never met him either have you ?

[Caroline]

You've never met him either have you ?

You're right, I haven't. Then again, I'm not suggesting that those who knew him for most of his life - don't know him.

[Caroline]

Drifting along with the tumbling tumbleweeds 

[lookout]

Drifting along with the tumbling tumbleweeds 

I know, until something positive crops up hopefully. 

[Caroline]

I know, until something positive crops up hopefully. 

Just something would be ......... well, 'something'