JB petition now has almost ten thousand signatures.

[David1819]

Did I? It was years ago.

If PH said BC was a source for his book, then I assumed it could be true. Not really important, his book has been dismissed.

Indeed it’s no longer important. But it was obvious something fishy was going on from the beginning. How could he have randomly got this call when he never publicly gave out his telephone number? Much like the threat letter when nobody knew his address.

Then his claim he randomly bumped into Ed Lawson over “refreshments” at the COA. Ed then supposedly revealed all these incriminating things to him. Not only is such drivel an insult to the readers intelligence, even if it was true how could he have believed in JBs innocence in the first place?


Question everything assume nothing learn the truth.

[lookout]

No I don't think she did. She's answering this author's book to some extent. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Somebodys-Husband-Son-Yorkshire-Ripper/dp/0571222838

Yes,I saw that. It's always someone else's account of a story----only the wording is different. How about an author coming up with their own account of the truth, simply using their own research etc and not someone else's ?
Every JB book has been made up of another's account of how things happened or were alleged to have happened. They probably couldn't be any further from the truth.

[David1819]

Yes,I saw that. It's always someone else's account of a story----only the wording is different. How about an author coming up with their own account of the truth, simply using their own research etc and not someone else's ?
Every JB book has been made up of another's account of how things happened or were alleged to have happened. They probably couldn't be any further from the truth.

If you are writing non-fiction, you are confined to the accounts/claims of other people. Anything new has to be either discovered or experimental.

[Zoso]

Message to David and Harry - if you want to troll the board about why I changed my mind about Bamber, then do so via PM. This forum is NOT about me or any other member! Post about Bamber and debate the case NOT other members!

[Zoso]

Administrators are not supposed to remove posts to help one side win the argument or to protect the position of a particular individual who who is favoured and allowed to do what they like. I have noticed that on this thread all the posts have been deleted since August 31st.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9945.0.html

It's obvious from the date that Caroline was not interested in selecting particular posts to delete, but in anger, simply chose the start of September as the cut off point. I don't make many posts and I always save pages, so I have all my stuff still available, but I am thinking now of other members who have made posts in good faith and who have had some very well thought out material destroyed by the person in question.

No but they can and WILL remove posts from people who are intent on causing disruption which YOU clearly are. You would do well to start debating the case and not referring to me as it is obvious that I am the focus of your interest here. That's a free one, mention me again and I will remove it.

[maggie]

Message to David and Harry - if you want to troll the board about why I changed my mind about Bamber, then do so via PM. This forum is NOT about me or any other member! Post about Bamber and debate the case NOT other members!

Hi David and Harry, I have posted this before but am happy to do so again.  I remember Caroline discussing with me that she had doubts about Jeremy Bamber's innocence long before Paul Harrison changed his line from innocent to guity.  She found the fact that JB knew what was in Nevil' s wallet highly suspicious and I know she spent a long time coming to terms with changing her belief.  I know she didn't change her mind simply because PH did.

[maggie]

David and Harry, the forum is for discussion of the Jeremy Bamber etc miscarriages of justice, not for discussing other members opinions or behaviour.  If you have any complaints please inform Admin or moderators by pm.  Thanks.

[David1819]

Hi David and Harry, I have posted this before but am happy to do so again.  I remember Caroline discussing with me that she had doubts about Jeremy Bamber's innocence long before Paul Harrison changed his line from innocent to guity.  She found the fact that JB knew what was in Nevil' s wallet highly suspicious and I know she spent a long time coming to terms with changing her belief.  I know she didn't change her mind simply because PH did.

Except its not a fact Maggie. Neither do I agree with the rest of what you have posted. That's not to say you are lying, but you have simply come to the wrong conclusion.

David and Harry, the forum is for discussion of the Jeremy Bamber etc miscarriages of justice, not for discussing other members opinions or behaviour. 

Then why have you just discussed another members opinions and behaviour above thus bringing the subject up yet again?

[Caroline]

Except its not a fact Maggie. Neither do I agree with the rest of what you have posted. That's not to say you are lying, but you have simply come to the wrong conclusion.

Then why have you just discussed another members opinions and behaviour above thus bringing the subject up yet again?

Because Maggie was HERE when this was discussed, whereas you were NOT and neither was Harry. Any conclusion that doesn;t agree with yours, is the wrong one. You can post as much as you like about Paul Harrison as can your new found mate Harry but the pair of you weren't party to behind the scenes discussions and it is your conclusion that is flawed. I won't post about this again. The topic is closed.

[David1819]

Because Maggie was HERE when this was discussed, whereas you were NOT and neither was Harry. Any conclusion that doesn;t agree with yours, is the wrong one. You can post as much as you like about Paul Harrison as can your new found mate Harry but the pair of you weren't party to behind the scenes discussions and it is your conclusion that is flawed. I won't post about this again. The topic is closed.

I have arrived at my own conclusions, and justified that position. End of.

Believe it or not Caroline I am actually bored of this subject now. If its become a hot topic for Maggie and Harry all of a sudden they can talk about it without bringing me into it. Even better they can have tea party between them via PM.

[Caroline]

I have arrived at my own conclusions, and justified that position. End of.

Believe it or not Caroline I am actually bored of this subject now. If its become a hot topic for Maggie and Harry all of a sudden they can talk about it without bringing me into it. Even better they can have tea party between them via PM.

You are entitled to do that - however, they are the wrong conclusions - end off.

I doubt Maggie will be entertaining any PM's from Harry but she may get a laugh at his somewhat 'out there' accusations!

[Harry]

David and Harry, the forum is for discussion of the Jeremy Bamber etc miscarriages of justice, not for discussing other members opinions or behaviour.  If you have any complaints please inform Admin or moderators by pm.  Thanks.

What you are trying to do is to make an issue which is a legitimate subject for discussion off limits, because one member wants it that way.

If I were to write a piece about Paul Harrison and his influence on this forum, then people such as Mat and Caroline can't be left out of the discussion. Harrison tried to frame Jackie Preece and when he was criticised, Mat and Caroline came to his defence. Mat even openly accused Jackie of sending that letter from Essex.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6023.msg268237.html#msg268237

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6023.msg268998.html#msg268998
 
Harrison would hardly have thought of trying to get Jackie into trouble without the influence of somebody at one of the forums who happens to have great antipathy towards Jackie.

The writing style of the letter is just like that of the letter Harrison said he got from a prison inmate to whom Bamber allegedly confessed. Same second rate melodrama!

Here is an excellent post from Patti

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6023.msg269000.html#msg269000
If the letter is genuine, then it must have come from a forum who knows JP and NGB and is holding a grudge. I doubt the campaign team are even aware of it and I honestly do not think it is anyone from that there.

It appears to me very likely that Harrison himself wrote the letter and communicated it online to a supporter of his who would type it out and post it for him. But who could that be?

In a police investigation, the first people to interview would be members of the blue and the red forums. But unlike Mat, I am not accusing anybody.

[lookout]

Hahahahaha, look at the plank who started the thread !?
 Doesn't feel like 5 years ago, how time flies when you're having fun 

[Jane]

What you are trying to do is to make an issue which is a legitimate subject for discussion off limits, because one member wants it that way.

If I were to write a piece about Paul Harrison and his influence on this forum, then people such as Mat and Caroline can't be left out of the discussion. Harrison tried to frame Jackie Preece and when he was criticised, Mat and Caroline came to his defence. Mat even openly accused Jackie of sending that letter from Essex.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6023.msg268237.html#msg268237

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6023.msg268998.html#msg268998
 
Harrison would hardly have thought of trying to get Jackie into trouble without the influence of somebody at one of the forums who happens to have great antipathy towards Jackie.

The writing style of the letter is just like that of the letter Harrison said he got from a prison inmate to whom Bamber allegedly confessed. Same second rate melodrama!

Here is an excellent post from Patti

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6023.msg269000.html#msg269000
If the letter is genuine, then it must have come from a forum who knows JP and NGB and is holding a grudge. I doubt the campaign team are even aware of it and I honestly do not think it is anyone from that there.

It appears to me very likely that Harrison himself wrote the letter and communicated it online to a supporter of his who would type it out and post it for him. But who could that be?

In a police investigation, the first people to interview would be members of the blue and the red forums. But unlike Mat, I am not accusing anybody.

You are correct in saying that PH would hardly have thought of getting Jackie into trouble because the chances are he never knew her.


It seems to me that Jackie created her own shit and then jumped right in it up to her neck. She claimed that PH approached her. Ever asked yourself WHY would he? Was JP -who could hardly string a cohesive sentence together- some celebrity in the literary world? I think not!!! She appears to have sent him a letter, introducing herself, and telling him she could, through her company, point him in all sorts of directions, and introduce him to those who would benefit him. NOW, unless you're claiming that PH was responsible for THAT letter, the letter he sent her was unequivocally NOT a first letter, but one in response to one previously sent. I can only believe that Jackie's ONLY plan was to brag to the rest of the forum that she was tight with a 'big time' author who was supporting Jeremy.

[Jane]

Hahahahaha, look at the plank who started the thread !?
 Doesn't feel like 5 years ago, how time flies when you're having fun 

Well done, Lookout