JB petition now has almost ten thousand signatures.

[Jane]

I believe we've been her before?

[Jane]

Did you see my question to you in reply 126?
[qote]

I can only reiterate that regardless of their footwear, even if they'd had a polite tete a tete prior to the shooting, bullets move faster than people.

[Adam]

Like I said I believe he tried to disarm her, unfortunately he got shot trying. (as expected)

Obviously there is 0% chance of Nevill ringing Bamber, at 3am. As head of the family he would want the issue resolved quickly. Preferably without June & the twins being disturbed.

Nevill needed to get back to bed as quickly as possible. He had just had a long day & had another one coming up. Ditto Bamber.

A fully fit Nevill would disarm Sheila quickly. This is 100%. As the only awake adult he had no choice.

[David1819]

How do you know ?

Because nobody in the police telephone rooms ever reported receiving a call from Nevill. That’s how I know.

[lookout]

Because nobody in the police telephone rooms ever reported receiving a call from Nevill. That’s how I know.

They got it wrong------there was a call.

[David1819]

They got it wrong------there was a call.

How can they get anything wrong by not receiving a call?

[lookout]

David you've only to see/read about the many mistakes that EP made. The whole investigation was abysmal and the fact that they made a pig's ear over the phone-calls, reporting and entering them in their usual tin-pot way just adds to their incompetences.

[David1819]

David you've only to see/read about the many mistakes that EP made. The whole investigation was abysmal and the fact that they made a pig's ear over the phone-calls, reporting and entering them in their usual tin-pot way just adds to their incompetences.

EPs handling of the case has nothing to do with the emergency telephone operators.

[Caroline]

David you've only to see/read about the many mistakes that EP made. The whole investigation was abysmal and the fact that they made a pig's ear over the phone-calls, reporting and entering them in their usual tin-pot way just adds to their incompetences.

There is actually nothing wrong with the logs other than they have been taken out of context.

[David1819]

A fully fit Nevill would disarm Sheila quickly. This is 100%. As the only awake adult he had no choice.

He tried, he failed.

[Adam]

Neither Nevill or Sheila would have received any injuries. Nevill would quickly negate the situation. Either when getting close enough to her, or using an object to charge her. Sheila would offer no resistance if trying to hold onto the rifle.

As head of the family Nevill had no choice but to quickly negate the situation & there is zero chance he would want to leave a message on his sons answering machine at 3am. 

He was twice as big strong, fit and alert as Sheila & would not be pleased at being kept awake. The rifle was used for shooting rabbits.

Nevill would have to decide whether to tell June & anyone else the following day. Although it is likely June would have also been awake and out of bed.

[Jane]

Neither Nevill or Sheila would have received any injuries. Nevill would quickly negate the situation. Either when getting close enough to her, or using an object to charge her. Sheila would offer no resistance if trying to hold onto the rifle.

As head of the family Nevill had no choice but to quickly negate the situation & there is zero chance he would want to leave a message on his sons answering machine at 3am. 

He was twice as big strong, fit and alert as Sheila & would not be pleased at being kept awake. The rifle was used for shooting rabbits.

Nevill would have to decide whether to tell June & anyone else the following day. Although it is likely June would have also been
awake and out of bed.

Neither Sheiala nor any other shooter needed to put up resistance. They had then gun. All they had to do was pull the trigger and whether it was a gun only suitable for dispatching rabbits is irrelevant, it was still capable of rendering dead five people. That could be because bullets move faster than people and they don't need thinking time.

[ngb1066]

I was searching through some old emails today and found some PM notifications from back in 2013. One of those was a PM from Maggie (dated 6th August 2013) and in it she stated the following (I am sure she won't mind me posting this) - "I kept forgetting to ask you.  Did Jeremy ever answer your question about the wallet?? xx" thus PROVING that I had discussed my concerns way before PH revealed his book was about a guilty Bamber! I have sent the email to NGB who I am sure will authenticate it?

I can confirm that Caroline has sent me the email, which is a notification of a forum PM dated 6th August 2013 from Maggie.  It is clear that Caroline was having doubts about the case at a time when Paul Harrison was still stating in emails and PMs that his book was firmly pro Bamber and anti Essex Police.  As I have already posted at the beginning of 2014 PH was still sticking to that position and only told me of the change in early February 2014.

 

[Caroline]

I can confirm that Caroline has sent me the email, which is a notification of a forum PM dated 6th August 2013 from Maggie.  It is clear that Caroline was having doubts about the case at a time when Paul Harrison was still stating in emails and PMs that his book was firmly pro Bamber and anti Essex Police.  As I have already posted at the beginning of 2014 PH was still sticking to that position and only told me of the change in early February 2014.

Thank you NGB - much appreciated.

[lookout]

EPs handling of the case has nothing to do with the emergency telephone operators.

It has because a member of EP knew that a 999 call had been taken.