so wheres this forensic breakthrough then.

[Roch]

Trickled down.

If blood had trickled down from her hand (which is supposed to be bloodless?), should the streams not be at a different angle than they are?

[Roch]

By pushing the trigger. That arm would be right under the neck wound while she was sitting in the upwards position.

What is her position in this scenario, i.e. angle of body / angle of arm?

[David1819]

What is her position in this scenario, i.e. angle of body / angle of arm?

Either Something like this -

https://gfycat.com/GloriousHeavenlyBuck

Or this

[Roch]

Either Something like this -

https://gfycat.com/GloriousHeavenlyBuck

Or this

The second one doesn't work, due to the angle.  The angle seems more plausible in the first example.  However, the trajectory of the streams is still difficult for me to work out?

[Caroline]

If blood had trickled down from her hand (which is supposed to be bloodless?), should the streams not be at a different angle than they are?

In a word 'no' - why would they be?

[Roch]

In a word 'no' - why would they be?

Because if that was the case, the streams should be more linear (in terms of the length of her arm).  These streams seem to travel width-ways.  And not far.  If they were the result of a large amount of blood from a major wound (being transferred to hand / wrist / arm etc), then why do they stop so abruptly and congeal?

[David1819]

The second one doesn't work, due to the angle.  The angle seems more plausible in the first example.  However, the trajectory of the streams is still difficult for me to work out?

The second one is very possible. We can see on the corner of her night dress that blood was spurting out.

Blood could have got on her arm then trickled downwards before she fell back. We can already see those streams change direction due to her falling.

[Caroline]

Because if that was the case, the streams should be more linear (in terms of the length of her arm).  These streams seem to travel width-ways.  And not far.  If they were the result of a large amount of blood from a major wound (being transferred to hand / wrist / arm etc), then why do they stop so abruptly and congeal?

It all depends how the blood got there is the first place. I have my own idea about that

[Caroline]

The second one is very possible. We can see on the corner of her night dress that blood was spurting out.

Blood could have got on her arm then trickled downwards before she fell back. We can already see those streams change direction due to her falling.

Blood could have gotten onto her right arm? What? From all the way down the trigger? If the picture was anywhere near accurate, the blood would have been on her left hand/wrist/arm.

[lookout]

Because if that was the case, the streams should be more linear (in terms of the length of her arm).  These streams seem to travel width-ways.  And not far.  If they were the result of a large amount of blood from a major wound (being transferred to hand / wrist / arm etc), then why do they stop so abruptly and congeal?

Roch, those streaks would have been venous blood ( coming from a vein possibly after the first failed shot ) as opposed to arterial blood which would have spurted out everywhere. The reason why there wasn't the volume of blood from the second shot in the carotid artery was that she'd have died instantly which would have immediately stopped the heart and its pumping mechanism.

[lookout]

I can only assume that those blood stripes, caused by droplets landing on her arm, were from the first wound when she was in a semi-sitting position and because of it being from a vein and not an artery, and because of the time between shots when she held the rifle in readiness for the second shot it would have travelled in this way if her arm was across her body adjusting the rifle in place.

I can picture it in my mind but it's hard to try and describe when it comes to writing it down.

[Caroline]

I can only assume that those blood stripes, caused by droplets landing on her arm, were from the first wound when she was in a semi-sitting position and because of it being from a vein and not an artery, and because of the time between shots when she held the rifle in readiness for the second shot it would have travelled in this way if her arm was across her body adjusting the rifle in place.

I can picture it in my mind but it's hard to try and describe when it comes to writing it down.

How did droplets land n an arm that was next to the trigger and not on the arm close to the wound?? They aren't droplets, they are trails from blood on her hand.

[Caroline]

You can see that they are finger prints from this picture.

[lookout]

How did droplets land n an arm that was next to the trigger and not on the arm close to the wound?? They aren't droplets, they are trails from blood on her hand.

The pic is misleading as regards her arm being shown next to the trigger. It's not how it would have been as the gun has been carelessly placed. An afterthought by incompetents.

Picture the scenario without the gun being there. Before the second shot ( as the first won't have killed her outright ) that wound would have dripped blood and if she'd been in a semi-sitting position, the blood would have dropped onto her crooked arm across her body.


Which hand are you talking about ? How did blood get into her hand ?  It's impossible for blood from a hand to land where it did, unless she had long stripes of it going down her left arm and even then it would have to drop "to order" to  form the pattern of droplets on her arm.

[lookout]

Considering that Sheila's hands were as clean as a new pin--------------where's the blood ?
She could have rested her hand on the floor/carpet at some point then transferred her hand to her nightdress.