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Offline David1819

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Re: so wheres this forensic breakthrough then.
« Reply #75 on: August 31, 2019, 05:24:PM »



The partial hand/fingers could tell a lot from where/how her hand was placed  originally and by studying that pic, the placing of the rifle looks phoney as does her hand the way it's just resting on the rifle.

It's just not right.

They moved her arm to take that photo. You will also notice three streams of blood running down that arm. I actually believe that it could just be a transfer stain from those three streams on her arm rather than fingers.
Since in the photo you can tell there is no blood on her finger/tips. They could also have come from June or Nevill if they are indeed three fingers.

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Re: so wheres this forensic breakthrough then.
« Reply #76 on: August 31, 2019, 05:40:PM »



The partial hand/fingers could tell a lot from where/how her hand was placed  originally and by studying that pic, the placing of the rifle looks phoney as does her hand the way it's just resting on the rifle.

It's just not right.

Exactly Lookout! The idea that the stain cam from the trails on her arm is ridiculous, the trails have lines across which coincide with those on fingers.
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Re: so wheres this forensic breakthrough then.
« Reply #77 on: August 31, 2019, 06:23:PM »
It's marvellous revisiting some of these sites as it gives a whole new and different perspective on how you originally thought that things were. You notice things that you never saw before.

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Re: so wheres this forensic breakthrough then.
« Reply #78 on: August 31, 2019, 06:27:PM »
They moved her arm to take that photo. You will also notice three streams of blood running down that arm. I actually believe that it could just be a transfer stain from those three streams on her arm rather than fingers.
Since in the photo you can tell there is no blood on her finger/tips. They could also have come from June or Nevill if they are indeed three fingers.




3 drips of blood in succession. They must have dripped from above to land as they did then run down a " still " arm. But how ?

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Re: so wheres this forensic breakthrough then.
« Reply #79 on: August 31, 2019, 06:35:PM »



3 drips of blood in succession. They must have dripped from above to land as they did then run down a " still " arm. But how ?

Again, exactly Lookout!
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« Reply #80 on: August 31, 2019, 06:42:PM »
Again, exactly Lookout!

But I don't think the drip are running from the darker patches that you referred to as 'drops'. I think they have run from the hand and the darker patches are where the collected as it dried.
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Re: so wheres this forensic breakthrough then.
« Reply #81 on: August 31, 2019, 06:50:PM »



3 drips of blood in succession. They must have dripped from above to land as they did then run down a " still " arm. But how ?

Unfortunately we have no photo showing how these trickles/streams went round her arm over the dress.

But the fact these lines of blood are literally over the exact area in question. Makes me doubt they are from fingers. They could just simply be smudges from those lineal streams of blood. I like this explanation because it requires the least assumptions.

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Re: so wheres this forensic breakthrough then.
« Reply #82 on: August 31, 2019, 06:50:PM »
But I don't think the drip are running from the darker patches that you referred to as 'drops'. I think they have run from the hand and the darker patches are where the collected as it dried.





How do you mean, run from the hand ?

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Re: so wheres this forensic breakthrough then.
« Reply #83 on: August 31, 2019, 06:54:PM »
Unfortunately we have no photo showing how these trickles/streams went round her arm over the dress.

But the fact these lines of blood where literally over the exact area in question. Makes me doubt they are from fingers. They could just simply be smudges from those lineal streams of blood. I like this explanation because it requires the least assumptions.






They're drips which have literally landed on her arm from above, but from whom ? Were the drips definitely Sheila's blood ?

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« Reply #84 on: August 31, 2019, 07:16:PM »




How do you mean, run from the hand ?

Trickled down.
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« Reply #85 on: August 31, 2019, 07:59:PM »
Trickled down.




Where did the blood come from to be on her hand to start with ?

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Re: so wheres this forensic breakthrough then.
« Reply #86 on: August 31, 2019, 08:43:PM »



Where did the blood come from to be on her hand to start with ?

I have my own views on that but you won't like it Lookout :)
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« Reply #87 on: August 31, 2019, 09:10:PM »
I have my own views on that but you won't like it Lookout :)




Oh right------but it could be wrong in my eyes ? No surprises there  :))

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Re: so wheres this forensic breakthrough then.
« Reply #88 on: August 31, 2019, 10:18:PM »



3 drips of blood in succession. They must have dripped from above to land as they did then run down a " still " arm. But how ?

How must she have placed her arm, in order for the drops to fall upon it as per this possibility?   Try moving your own arm, to simulate blood having dripped from Sheila's wound sites on to those specific areas on her arm.

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Re: so wheres this forensic breakthrough then.
« Reply #89 on: August 31, 2019, 10:30:PM »
How must she have placed her arm, in order for the drops to fall upon it as per this possibility?   Try moving your own arm, to simulate blood having dripped from Sheila's wound sites on to those specific areas on her arm.

By pushing the trigger. That arm would be right under the neck wound while she was sitting in the upwards position.
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