Alex Salmond Rape Charge.

[ngb1066]

I'll wait for James Hamilton QC's report and not be influenced by gossip, tittle-tattle, leaks and innuendo.

James Hamilton's report is only dealing with narrow issues and not the entire sorry episode.  The claims are based upon hard facts, not "gossip, tittle-tattle, leaks and innuendo".   At some stage I hope and believe the full horror of this will be revealed.  The swamp needs to be drained.



 

[guest7363]

Well the point was that Alex Salmond sought a meeting with Nicola Sturgeon before these allegations broke, and one has to ask oneself why.

One could ask why the meeting was never officially recorded, especially meeting in the capacity of first Minister, under the ministerial code this meeting should have been recorded so who had something to hide?  Her own husband Murrell gives this away by saying it was a Government matter and she met him as first Minister.

[Steve_uk]

James Hamilton's report is only dealing with narrow issues and not the entire sorry episode.  The claims are based upon hard facts, not "gossip, tittle-tattle, leaks and innuendo".   At some stage I hope and believe the full horror of this will be revealed.  The swamp needs to be drained.

Why did the Holyrood Inquiry break 5/4 on party lines?

[ngb1066]

Why did the Holyrood Inquiry break 5/4 on party lines?

The SNP members of the committee maintain blind loyalty to their leader. 

 

[Steve_uk]

One could ask why the meeting was never officially recorded, especially meeting in the capacity of first Minister, under the ministerial code this meeting should have been recorded so who had something to hide?  Her own husband Murrell gives this away by saying it was a Government matter and she met him as first Minister.

I can only surmise that Alex Salmond sent Geoff Aberdein to sound out Nicola Sturgeon on March 29, 2018 and this paved the way for a meeting at her home address on April 2. The questions in my mind are: was this preferential treatment requsted by Aberdein and afforded to Salmond because of his position and did they expect Sturgeon to pull strings, and when she refused they determined to exact their revenge?

[Steve_uk]

The SNP members of the committee maintain blind loyalty to their leader.

So are you now saying that Alex Salmond has no residual loyalty amongst SNP members? I thought this affair was an internecene conflict within the SNP.

[ngb1066]

So are you now saying that Alex Salmond has no residual loyalty amongst SNP members? I thought this affair was an internecine conflict within the SNP.

He does have some residual loyalty within the SNP (although he is no longer a member) but current MPs and MSPs together with the very tightly controlled party machine remain blindly loyal to Sturgeon.  That may change.  Once the cracks appear I think we may see a rapidly changing picture.

   

[guest7363]

I can only surmise that Alex Salmond sent Geoff Aberdein to sound out Nicola Sturgeon on March 29, 2018 and this paved the way for a meeting at her home address on April 2. The questions in my mind are: was this preferential treatment requsted by Aberdein and afforded to Salmond because of his position and did they expect Sturgeon to pull strings, and when she refused they determined to exact their revenge?

She offered to intervene and pull strings, Duncan Hamilton, an advocate and former SNP MSP, said that the first minister uttered the words during a meeting in her home on April 2, 2018. Statements by Hamilton and Kevin Pringle, a former SNP director of communications say this was on the April 2nd meeting.

[Steve_uk]

She offered to intervene and pull strings, Duncan Hamilton, an advocate and former SNP MSP, said that the first minister uttered the words during a meeting in her home on April 2, 2018. Statements by Hamilton and Kevin Pringle, a former SNP director of communications say this was on the April 2nd meeting.

Do you mean by arranging arbitration instead of the plaintiffs having recourse to law? It's still unclear in my mind and I'd rather wait for James Hamilton QC to report. https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/national/19130635.witnesses-back-salmonds-claims-sturgeon-misled-parliament/

[guest7363]

James Hamilton's report is only dealing with narrow issues and not the entire sorry episode.  The claims are based upon hard facts, not "gossip, tittle-tattle, leaks and innuendo".   At some stage I hope and believe the full horror of this will be revealed.  The swamp needs to be drained.

Like Dorethy-Grace Elder said,
'What is mistaken for discipline is really fear. The party is riddled with dirty tricks. The Salmond saga is only part of it all.'  She wrote in the Sunday Mail that despite sharing an office with Miss Sturgeon for years, the future leader never spoke to her as she 'ignored those who weren't cronies.

[lookout]

There'll never be transparency where there are politics/ politicians,no matter what the subject is about.
Most of them run with the hare and hunt with the hound----hail fellow well met until something goes awry.

[guest29835]

There'll never be transparency where there are politics/ politicians,no matter what the subject is about.
Most of them run with the hare and hunt with the hound----hail fellow well met until something goes awry.

This is true, I believe, of the majority of them.  I have in the past known some politicians quite well, and some of them are not like this, but your assessment is accurate of most, in my experience.

[guest7363]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9389851/Nicola-Sturgeon-CLEARED-QC-breaching-ministerial-code.html

As predicted, Hamilton has cleared her, wouldn’t expect anything else when a former Employee is employed to look into any wrongdoing’s, it’s like employing a Mafia member to look into a Cartel.

[Roch]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9389851/Nicola-Sturgeon-CLEARED-QC-breaching-ministerial-code.html

As predicted, Hamilton has cleared her, wouldn’t expect anything else when a former Employee is employed to look into any wrongdoing’s, it’s like employing a Mafia member to look into a Cartel.

Or the police to investigate the police? Dickinson, COLP, Stokenchurch. Sorry, couldn't help it RJ 

[guest7363]

Or the police to investigate the police? Dickinson, COLP, Stokenchurch. Sorry, couldn't help it RJ 

😂😂😂. I knew I’d set myself up Roch 🙈