Significance of two double marked bullet cases, found in kitchen?

[Jerry]

It's on the log, Mike, as clear as day. The information was relayed by JB.

Thank you Shona.  I don't blame Mike for trying to interpret it as Nevill's phone call but it obviously isn't.

[shonapugs]

I also wonder why Mike stated last night that the twins had only received one shot each, when we had previously discussed that they had multiple shots, seemingly in arcs, though June and Ralph were shot in a more haphazard manner. Mike did amend this, though.

[Jerry]

So, in your opinion Mike.

Do you think Neville called the police before or after he called Jeremy?

I'll reply to myself.

Scenario 1:  Neville calls police, then calls Jeremy. Situation is out of hand, as the so called keep it in the family Neville has called the police. He's ignored the boxes of ammo lying around, left June in bedroom, and likely still in bed. But, still has time to call Jeremy, who decides to go through yellow pages........nope, i don't like this scenario.

Scenario 2: Neville calls Jeremy, ignoring ammo, and leaving June in bedroom. Phone goes dead, but some how Neville makes another phone call to Jeremy...nope don't like this one either.

Scenario 3: The police simply relayed information Jeremy had given them, and logged accordingly...yep, thats the one for me.

There was no need for Nevill to make two phone calls and two calls were never recorded as having been made from WHF.

If your daughter was off her head with a rifle what would you do?   Stand and make several phone calls?  I think not.

[shonapugs]

I think that you would call for the police and ambulance services. You would not want your son to walk into danger. If anything, you would tell him to stay away from the house until the police were in attendance.

[Jerry]

I believe that phone call from Nevill to Jeremy never happened.

[shonapugs]

Me too. But the assailant could have called JB.

[shonapugs]

I actually began to have serious doubts when abs enlarged the image of Sheila's hand, and I could see evidence of bruising and oil-staining. But Hartley explained about pixilation and discolouration, and I was back to square one, again. I don't think that the photographic evidence conclusively proves that Sheila was still bleeding, and it has been suggested, more than once, that a figure was seen running away from WHF. I haven't seen a police log to support this, and I'm not holding my breath, but it has been mentioned.

[Jerry]

He could have dialled his home at Goldhanger before leaving WHF and leaving the phone handset lying off the cradle.  It only took a few minutes to drive home and less if he left the car along one of the farm lanes to the south of WHF.

[Jerry]

He could have had help Shona but whoever he was would have been well gone before the police arrived.

[shonapugs]

Well, that's still my theory. I don't believe that JB pulled the trigger.

[mike tesko]

I believe that phone call from Nevill to Jeremy never happened.

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But it did, there was definitely a call from whf to Jeremy's cottage that night, police were sure that such a call did take place, so much so, that they even seized his answer phone and had it examined to see if there was any evidence recorded upon it.

[mike tesko]

He could have had help Shona but whoever he was would have been well gone before the police arrived.

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There was definitely someone still very much alive inside whf when the two police officers and Jeremy went into the grounds to check it out at around 4am - the two police officers who saw the figure have lied through their teeth about what they all saw, and they ought to be ashamed of themselves for trying to make out it was the moon casting reflections upon the glass of the bedroom window...

[HMEssex]

He could have dialled his home at Goldhanger before leaving WHF and leaving the phone handset lying off the cradle.  It only took a few minutes to drive home and less if he left the car along one of the farm lanes to the south of WHF.

Ah, but the 'official' line is he made his getaway on a bicycle dressed in a wetsuit....

[shonapugs]

No bicycle, no wetsuit, but also no proof that Ralph made the call.................

[mike tesko]

No bicycle, no wetsuit, but also no proof that Ralph made the call.................

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Equally, there is no proof that Ralph did not make the call...