Case Update section

[Roch]

There's a Case Update section on the OS.  I couldn't get a link to it.  The update they've put on doesn't really tell us anything we didn't already know.  I think the case seems to have reached an impasse. Well, externally this seems to be the case.  Internally, whatever communications may be going on seem to be taking for ever.

Last updated 27.11.18

Jeremy Bamber's lawyer, Mark Newby, is currently in an ongoing discussion with the CPS regarding the non-disclosure of key evidence. At the time of the trial the Defence did not know that there was more than one sound moderator seized by police. One came from the relatives (later estate beneficiaries) who found the moderator at the house days after the police had finished their work. The other was probably taken by police from the house before the end of their scenes of crime work. It is impossible to tell the difference between them at various times, but disclosed paperwork shows that there were two moderators being examined on the same day, each with different contaminates and having different characteristics. This means that we can be certain there were two.

A new forensic report has been given to the CPS which supports this evidence together with a legal a request for disclosure of all chain of evidence material. The report also brings into question the integrity of the police forensic examinations.  These moderators (silencers) were swapped and used interchangeably by police. Furthermore, it is impossible to know which one was examined for the 2002 Appeal in which there was no DNA from Sheila Caffell obtained, but there was DNA from an unidentified male. There is a possibility the DNA came from one of the  Bamber estate beneficiaries, Robert Boutflour, who had an identical blood group to Sheila. The trial court was not told about this simple fact, even when the jury asked if Robert Boutflour and the beneficiaries had financial motive to lie.

This issue was recently reported in the Guardian by Eric Allison and Simon Hattenstone.

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[Adam]

Why would the police take one silencer, but not the other ?

Either take them all or take none at all.

There was no reason for the police to take any silencers. It was murder/suicide.

[Adam]

There is no reason for the police to use two silencers to frame Bamber.

They had Sheila's blood at the station & could scratch the aga at any time.

Either the relatives handed in a silencer with blood & paint on. Or they handed in a silencer with nothing on & suggested to the police how they could use the silencer to frame Bamber.

Either way, only one silencer was needed.

[Adam]

If a long time after the massacre, the police decided to use one piece of evidence (silencer) to help frame Bamber, they would have to bring in a large team to create all the other incriminating forensic evidence.

As said it would have had to have been an industrial frame to overturn a murder/suicide.

[Adam]

Just re read the article. It says two silencers were taken from WHF, rather than two 'submitted to the labs'. One taken by the police, one by the relatives.

The one the relatives took from WHF was obviously the one which had paint and Sheila's blood on.

The police handed in one silencer to the labs - the one the relatives gave them. 

The silencer the police apparently took from WHF had no paint or blood on.

So no issue.

[mike tesko]

Why would the police take one silencer, but not the other ? they only took one silencer, because the gun which could have fired the first shot downstairs in the region of the kitchen was the silencer fitted to the barrel of Anthony Pargeters .22 bolt action rifle which DS Jones seized upon his second return to the scene after having left Jeremy's cottage. He seized the rifle and it's silencer (SBJ/1) on this occasion. On the many occasions I had the opportunity to question Jeremy about the existence and the presence of the Pargeter firearm at white house farm at the time of the tragedy, I was satisfied that the Pargeter rifle with its silencer was there at the material time! In point of fact, Jeremy even included it's presence there in the hand drawn diagram which the firearm officers got him to draw, and a list of all the weapons that were known to be inside the farmhouse, so that the police knew what they were dealing with - Jeremy included in that list Anthony Pargeters .22 bolt action rifle. So, it stands to reason, that had not the Pargeter rifle been there inside the farmhouse when the police eventually got inside, the fact that it was missing, if it was missing at that time, would have been a major clue for the police to investigate, particularly so since the Pargeter rifle, and it's ammunition, silencer, etc were licensed only to be kept and used at whf and on the land farmed by N & J Bamber Ltd.

Either take them all or take none at all. Cops didn't know about the existence of the other silencer at that stage, and the anshuzt rifle was found at the first floor box room window, minus it's telescopic site, and it's silencer...

There was no reason for the police to take any silencers. Well, you better get used to the fact that they had, and that they did, DS Jones seized 'SBJ/1' which was the Pargeter Silencer (and his bolt action rifle). Anthony Pargeter himself confirmed to Essex police that he always kept his bolt action rifle and all its accessories at whf, including .22 ammunition to fire in it, but he added that he always used to remove the bolt from it when he left it there which he said he took home with him to Boyrnend in Buckinghamshire, do that no-one could fire the bolt action rifle in his absence! Well, first of all this was not true, because unfortunately for him and Essex police, his boktcaction rifle almost certainly fired at least one bullet during the shooting tragedy, that particular shot being the initial shot fired across Sheila Caffell's neck when her body was reported dead downstairs in the kitchen!Essex police knew this, and PS Woodcock and DCS Ainsley knew all about the fact that the Pargeter rifle fired the first shot into Sheila Caffells neck, and if what Pargeter said in that version of his Essex police witness statement was a truthful statement, then why didn't Essex police arrest apAnthiny Pargeter on suspicion of murder, because if he took home the bolt from that weapon so that no-one could fire it in his absence, surely it must mean that he was present at the time that Sheila was shot across the neck? However, just to point everyone in the right direction, and as a result of myself writing directly to the then Home Secretary, Mr David Warrington concerning this matter, the COLP investigators get themselves involved, and suddenly Anthony Pargeter is changing his version of events! Suddenly he remembers that he had taken his rifle home on the penultimate week-end prior to the shootings, and therefore, his bolt action rifle wasn't even present at the scene at the time of the shootings! But if at least one shot was fired from it, it must have been there! It's no good saying that Pargeters rifle was tested as part of the COLP investigation and eliminated, because the cartridge cases subject of that comparison were not the original cartridge cases - we have as it stands two different version of the events concerning the whereabouts of the original batch of crime scene cartridge cases at the time of the COLP investigation, one which made out the case that all the crime scene had been destroyed, and then PC Whidden states that he did not destroy them? You can't believe anything Essex police have said, or say! It was murder/suicide.Well, that's one way of putting it, but in my opinion, it was a case of murder (x4), and a murder (where the cops are responsible for shooting Sheila Caffell dead during a training exercise) Cops murdered Sheila, they are not entitled to the defence of accidental death, due to the manner with which they have persistently pretended that they found her dead when the firearm team entered the main bedroom floor!