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Offline Jane

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Re: Books on the Case
« Reply #105 on: August 21, 2018, 06:59:AM »





I'm sure it wasn't copied from Dr Fergusons PROFESSIONAL  notes,  ::) which tells me that JB hadn't known and was just guessing that Sheila had a mental issue otherwise it would have been more pronounced if he'd known the proper medical terms. He got to know more by looking in the prison library but not before.

You're right. Jeremy didn't have time to send a fax to Dr Ferguson requesting Sheila's notes to read to police verbatim. Still, whether he used layman or professional terms, he managed to leave them in no doubt about what he wanted them to believe was her mental state. Oh, and by the way, as you're so keen to point out that Jeremy had to come down to their level, it's of no moment that he didn't have her notes.

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« Reply #106 on: August 21, 2018, 07:02:AM »
Back-street slang is usually used when talking to someone on their level.

You're right. Jeremy didn't have time to send a fax to Dr Ferguson requesting Sheila's notes to read to police verbatim. Still, whether he used layman or professional terms, he managed to leave them in no doubt about what he wanted them to believe was her mental state. Oh, and by the way, as you're so keen to point out that Jeremy had to come down to their level, it's of no moment that he didn't have her notes.

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Re: Books on the Case
« Reply #107 on: August 21, 2018, 07:05:AM »





On the contrary wouldn't it have appeared suspicious if Jeremy had rattled off all he knew about Sheila's illness and really making it look as though it was her ?


At 03.30am Jeremy wasn't given any indication that anything was going on or had gone on------but that is of no interest to you is it ?


Wasn't given any indication.................!!!!! Ha! He was STREETS ahead of them.

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« Reply #108 on: August 21, 2018, 11:07:AM »

Wasn't given any indication.................!!!!! Ha! He was STREETS ahead of them.






No chance-----he'd wanted to speak to his father !! He'd begged to speak to his father !!

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« Reply #109 on: August 21, 2018, 11:10:AM »





No chance-----he'd wanted to speak to his father !! He'd begged to speak to his father !!

What does that say other than he was as good an actor as he thought he was?

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Re: Books on the Case
« Reply #110 on: August 21, 2018, 11:32:AM »





I'm sure it wasn't copied from Dr Fergusons PROFESSIONAL  notes,  ::) which tells me that JB hadn't known and was just guessing that Sheila had a mental issue otherwise it would have been more pronounced if he'd known the proper medical terms. He got to know more by looking in the prison library but not before.

It was his sister Lookout - of corse he knew! He idn't use the correct terms because he didn't have any respect for any of them.
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Re: Books on the Case
« Reply #111 on: August 21, 2018, 11:56:AM »






It's all in your mind, though your own acting shows !

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Re: Books on the Case
« Reply #112 on: October 02, 2018, 04:35:AM »
You're right. Jeremy didn't have time to send a fax to Dr Ferguson requesting Sheila's notes to read to police verbatim. Still, whether he used layman or professional terms, he managed to leave them in no doubt about what he wanted them to believe was her mental state. Oh, and by the way, as you're so keen to point out that Jeremy had to come down to their level, it's of no moment that he didn't have her notes.

Jeremy didn't leave anybody in any doubt about what had taken place inside the farmhouse, he could not possibly have had any influence on where the police reported that Sheila's body was, either in the laundry room as seen by PC Collins and PC Delgado when they peered through the laundry room window and reportedly saw the body of a woman (which could only have been reference to the body of Sheila Caffell), prior to the police actually entering the Farmhouse! Jeremy could not have influenced the fact that upon entering the Farmhouse and going into the kitchen, the police reported two bodies found upon entry there, the body of 1 dead male, and the body of 1 dead female (the female could only have been a reference to Sheila Caffell)! When DS Jones and DC Clark visited the main bedroom about an hour and a half later on, they told Ann Eaton and the other relatives who were present, that they had seen the bodies of June Bamber and Sheila Caffell laying on top of the bed side-by-side one another. At this time, there was a rifle resting on the bed in between both of the bodies, and there was a bible on top of Sheila Caffells chest (Jeremy could not have influenced what Jones and Clark saw on that occasion)! Finally, we then have Sheila Caffells body laid out on the bedroom floor she being in possession of the anschutz rifle!

Whichever way you choose to look at all of this, it cannot be said that Jeremy Bamber had influenced anything that the police reportedly saw, or reported what they could see, at any stage in the proceedings!

You can't keep blaming Jeremy Bamber, for what the police themselves are responsible for doing, or saying, or reporting!

Ann Eaton and the rest of the relatives know full well that the police had been tampering with the position of Sheila's body once they had entered the Farmhouse on the first morning of the police investigation! The relatives only got suspicious because of the different accounts that they were being told about regarding how and in what position Sheila and Junes bodies had been found upon entry to the farmhouse by the police! You can't blame Jeremy Bamber, for The Suspicions which the relatives had, since it was the police themselves who were the cause of these problems..

Jeremy had got nothing to do with the fact that his sister's body was seen through the laundry room window by the police before they went into the premises! Jeremy has got nothing to do with his sister's body being reported as being present in the kitchen, and he has got nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that his sister's body was laid on top of the bed in the main bedroom alongside the body of his mother! Jeremy had got nothing to do with how his sister's body had ended up on the bedroom floor in possession of the anschutz rifle!

No evidence exists to establish a connection between any of these events and Jeremy Bambers influence in any of these proceedings!

How come the police have made so many mistakes in the reporting of where Sheila's body had been found or was present?

What I am saying, is that these were not errors or mistakes, these were the very locations and positions in which the body of Sheila was in at different stages of the police operation that particular morning - where positions/locations 1, 2, 3 and 4 all became position/location 4 once the nature of the police investigation altered from being one of 'four murders and a suicide', and pursued there after, on the footing that what the police were dealing with from thereon in, was a case of 'five murders'..
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